Financial Services (Banking Reform) Bill
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749 cc1301-1372 Session
2013-14Legislative stage
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Wednesday, 23 October 2013
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Moved by
Lord Barnett
1: Clause 4, page 4, line 37, leave out from “activity” to end ...
My Lords, in Committee I promised the House that I would table amendments to debate the question ...
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My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for moving his amendment and for pointing out the extr...
My Lords, it is a great pleasure for me to resume our debates on the Bill. We do not believe that...
My Lords, I do not think that the Minister has dealt with the central arguments about separation;...
The central question of full separation is in Amendment 2, which we will address next, and we can...
My Lords, can I ask the Minister for a little clarity on ring-fencing in terms of what is in this...
The clarification is that the ring-fence effectively operates on the liabilities side, so we are ...
My Lords, I will withdraw Amendment 1 and then move Amendment 2, although I spoke to it generally...
Moved by
Lord Barnett
2: Clause 4, page 7, line 22, leave out from beginning to end o...
My Lords, I beg to move.
My Lords, this Bill legislates for ring-fencing. That is the Government’s policy, not Glass-Steag...
My Lords, I have spoken before against ring-fencing and for full separation. We may not be in any...
My Lords, the Minister has told us that the Government consulted widely and got agreement. Well, ...
My Lords, can I ask the Minister whether I am right in thinking that the PRA would be the main re...
I agree with my noble friend’s explanation of the roles and responsibilities of the respective re...
Does the noble Lord wish to withdraw his amendment?
If the House is no longer interested in the matter, I beg leave to withdraw.
Moved by
Lord Eatwell
3: Clause 4, page 17, line 15, at end insert—
“Full separ...
My Lords, noble Lords will notice that Amendment 3 is identical to Amendment 6, which is in the n...
My Lords, this is a very important Bill indeed. We all know the great damage that the banking mel...
My Lords, I have broadly been in support of a Glass-Steagall separation of investment and banking...
My Lords, as did the noble Lord, Lord Lawson, I begin by expressing my gratitude to the Governmen...
My Lords, I have not so far taken part in the debate on this Bill, although I participated during...
My Lords, there are a lot of very interesting propositions in this group. Am I right in thinking ...
My Lords, surely there is no more important issue in relation to this banking situation than whet...
My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Lawson’s amendment as well. Like him and the noble Baron...
My Lords, before I turn to the substance of these amendments, I would like briefly to pause and r...
My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for that expert summary of a complex set of amendmen...
I think the right thing for us to do is to discuss it together with our colleagues from the PCBS....
Does the Minister mean that he is content to return to this issue at Third Reading?
That is what I meant to say.
Thank you very much.
This is a complicated set of interrelated amendments. I congratulate t...
Tabled by
Lord Lawson of Blaby
4: Clause 4, page 17, line 15, at end insert—
“1...
My Lords, in the light of the clear and explicit assurance given by the Minister that the indepen...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
7: Clause 4, page 17, line 38, after “scheme” insert “all or”<...
My Lords, these amendments make a number of minor and technical amendments to the Bill. Amendment...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
8: Clause 4, page 17, line 40, after “with” insert “all or”
Moved by
Lord Deighton
10: Clause 5, leave out Clause 5
My Lords, this amendment removes Clause 5 from the Bill. It will leave the regulators, the PRA an...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
11: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—
“In...
Tabled by
Lord Eatwell
12: After Clause 8, line 13, leave out “4” and insert “2”
My Lords, given the assurance given by the Minister that we will return to this matter at Third R...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
16: After Clause 8, insert the following new Clause—
“Ri...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
17: Schedule 2, page 102, line 31, at end insert—
“(1A) ...
Moved by
Lord Eatwell
21: Before Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—
“P...
My Lords, Amendment 21, and Amendments 50 and 51 from the commissioners, refer to the professiona...
I hate to interrupt the noble Lord but I cannot resist saying that, unfortunately, the training o...
I am sure that the noble Lord, as a distinguished solicitor, would attest to that, as indeed he h...
What is a minimum threshold of integrity?
Being a “fit and proper person” would perhaps be appropriate. If the noble Lord is not aware of t...
My Lords, Amendment 50 is in my name and those of the noble Lords, Lord Turnbull, Lord Lawson of ...
My Lords, I remind the House that for a number of years I was a director of a quite large British...
My Lords, I support Amendments 21 and 51 as strongly as I can. We all know that the vast majority...
My Lords, I come down to a very practical issue. In the territory that we are discussing, pre-app...
My Lords, I support this amendment, which we have heard is really at the heart of the disasters o...
I shall add just a bit, particularly to what the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, was saying. When I en...
I do not think that we should run away with the idea of codes of conduct because, if you look bac...
I have enormous respect for the noble Lord, Lord McFall, but I think the idea of legislating to b...
My Lords, this is a very large group of amendments dealing with another key aspect of the Governm...
Before my noble friend sits down, can he give an undertaking that he will produce the further ame...
I have a great deal of sympathy with what the noble Lord says, and I can give an assurance that w...
That’s not saying much.
It is not saying a huge amount, but it is saying something, and I hope that because we are talkin...
Does the noble Lord agree that if we are to make a real difference this time—and he will sense a ...
My Lords, that is the key focus of the senior managers regime—that, for the first time, senior ma...
My Lords, I was intrigued by the proposals which the Minister suggests will be brought forward at...
Moved by
Lord Newby
22: Clause 14, page 27, line 20, leave out “bank” and insert “rel...
My Lords, this group of amendments, and similar amendments in the previous group, respond to conc...
Moved by
Lord Newby
23*: Clause 14, page 27, line 22, leave out “bank” and insert “re...
Moved by
Lord Brennan
26: Clause 15, page 28, leave out lines 4 to 7 and insert—
<...My Lords, I declare an interest, as I have done before, as chairman of Global Financial Integrity...
My Lords, in the past, anti-money-laundering legislation tended to be associated with crime, typi...
I want briefly to add my support to the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Brennan. Money launderi...
My Lords, all Members of this House are what is known as PEPs for the purposes of anti-money-laun...
As I understand it, the money-laundering regulations specifically exclude British citizens, inclu...
I think the noble Lord may be right, but in practice, we are thus treated as a more dangerous cat...
My Lords, I am pleased to associate my name with all five amendments in this group, but I also wa...
My Lords, we are dealing here with an issue that everybody realises is an extremely important one...
Perhaps the noble Lord could clarify something. He made it absolutely clear that the FCA note rep...
My Lords, I will cover that issue in my letter. I am sorry that the noble Lord thinks that the FC...
My Lords, first, I had a meeting with officials from the Treasury, the content of which was, in s...
Moved by
Lord Mackay of Drumadoon
27: Clause 15, page 28, line 11, at end insert “but...
My Lords, the amendment seeks to amend Clause 15, and I will speak to Amendment 49, which seeks t...
My Lords, these amendments have the support of the Law Society of England and Wales as well as th...
My Lords, I understand the concern of the noble and learned Lord and that of the Law Society abou...
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for giving a very clear and detailed explanation of the G...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
29: Clause 16, page 28, line 18, leave out “bank” and insert “...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
31: Clause 16, page 28, line 29, leave out “bank” and insert “...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
32: Clause 17, page 28, line 42, leave out “bank” and insert “...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
39: Clause 19, page 30, line 29, leave out “bank” and insert “...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
44: Clause 22, page 35, line 10, leave out “banks” and insert ...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
46: Clause 22, page 35, line 20, leave out “PRA-authorised ban...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
48: Clause 22, page 35, line 22, leave out from beginning to “...
Moved by
The Archbishop of Canterbury
50: Clause 22, page 35, line 43, at end insert—...
I have already spoken to the amendment standing in my name. The members of the commission are del...
You have those assurances.
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Moved by
Lord Deighton
52: Clause 23, page 36, line 19, leave out “bank” and insert “...
Moved by
Lord Deighton
61: Clause 23, page 37, line 27, leave out “PRA-authorised ban...
Moved by
Lord McFall of Alcluith
70: After Clause 23, insert the following new Clause...
This amendment is in response to government amendments to the Bill which amend the Financial Serv...
My Lords, I start by saying that we strongly agree with the last point made by the noble Lord; pe...
My Lords, given the form of the regulators in the past, the Minister’s words that
Moved by
Lord Newby
71: Clause 24, page 38, line 42, leave out “Bank” and insert “Rel...
Moved by
Lord Newby
72: Clause 24, page 38, line 43, leave out “bank” and insert “rel...
Moved by
Lord Newby
76: Clause 25, page 39, line 14, leave out “relevant authorised p...
Moved by
Lord Newby
82: Schedule 3, page 131, line 18, leave out from “etc.),” to end...
Moved by
Lord Newby
83*: Clause 27, page 39, line 42, leave out “bank (“B”)” and inse...
My Lords, we now move to a group of government amendments which pertain to the scope of the offen...
I make one point of clarification on what my noble friend said. I apologise for my cold. It is ab...
I can give the noble Lord that assurance.