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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 20 November 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage twelfth day (part one). Schedules 6-7 and Clauses 89-106, agreed to.

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Session

2013-14

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Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Children and Families Bill 2012-13 to 2013-14. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 12 June 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Legislative Scrutiny: Children and Families Bill; Energy Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee third report with formal minutes and written evidence.
Tuesday, 18 June 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventh report.
Wednesday, 24 July 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Ninth Report.
Wednesday, 9 October 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eleventh report.
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
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Deposited Paper DEP2013-1994
Wednesday, 11 December 2013
Deposited papers
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Deposited Paper DEP2013-1995
Wednesday, 20 November 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Skelmersdale | 749 c403GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the resumed Grand Committee on the Children and Families Bill. If there is a Di...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 749 cc403-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope I am not the only person who is going to speak at this point. I would find it re...


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Baroness Thornton | 749 cc404-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Earl and I have been discussing the regulation of tobacco products since 2008...

Lord Judd | 749 cc405-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend just referred to how difficult it is to break the habit once you have f...

Lord Wigley | 749 c406GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was going to make rather a longer speech the other night, but when I listened to the ...

Lord Palmer | 749 cc406-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I fear that I may well be a lone voice in not supporting this amendment, even though I ...

Bishop of Chester | 749 c407GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly. Over the years I have been attracted by most vices, but neve...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c407GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak briefly because the health arguments have mainly been made. I want to m...

Lord Storey | 749 cc407-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to Amendments 263 and 264. If you said to some parents that you were going to put th...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 c409GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise extremely briefly because I had my go on Monday. I want to add just one point to...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 749 cc409-411GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should perhaps declare an interest as chairman of an NHS foundation trust, as a consu...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 c411GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard time and time again both here and in the other place of the clear benefit...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 749 c411GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support these amendments, and my name is attached to Amendment 264. I should de...

Earl Howe | 749 cc412-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an instructive debate and let me say immediately that I have listened car...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 749 c415GC (Link to this contribution)

My understanding of this is that, because the Government would not come forward with a more gener...

Earl Howe | 749 cc415-6GC (Link to this contribution)

That indeed is my understanding. Noble Lords have taken the opportunity of this Bill to raise the...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 749 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

I always admire the noble Earl’s eloquence when defending the indefensible and he has done that p...

Earl Howe | 749 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

Well, my Lords, if I could repay the compliment to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, he has very eloquen...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

As one of those who are not quite so eloquent but are equally committed to the cause, I think tha...

Earl Howe | 749 c416GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness underestimates her own eloquence here. I thank her for that and I shall reflec...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 749 cc416-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it falls to me to respond. I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. I am ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c417GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

266AZA: Clause 89, page 59, line 10, at end inse...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc417-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have moved on to Part 6 which has been greatly anticipated on my side of the House a...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc419-420GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, for bringing this matter to the at...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c421GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his reply, which was not unexpected. I return to my original point: this...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 c421GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Lister of Burtersett

266AA: Clause 89, page 60, leave out lines 9 a...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc421-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 266AA would introduce regulations to enable shared parental leave to be taken...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 c422GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, to explain why I am sympathetic to this amendment, while I am supportive of what the Go...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc422-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I support my noble friend Lady Lister in her amendment and have added my name to it. I thank the ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc423-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government understand the intention behind the amendment and I am glad of the oppor...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc425-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Tyler, and my noble friend Lord Stevenso...

Lord Touhig | 749 c426GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig

266AAA: Clause 89, page 66, line 38, at end insert—

“( ) W...

Lord Touhig | 749 cc426-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of my Amendment 266AAA is to replicate vital existing protections afforded ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc427-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 266AB, 266AC and 266C in this group stand in my name. Taken together, these ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc428-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad that these amendments give us the opportunity to debate the detail of how sha...

Lord Touhig | 749 c429GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in what seems an age ago now, I was once the Labour Party parliamentary candidate in Ri...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 c430GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Lister of Burtersett

266B: After Clause 89, insert the following ne...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc430-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 266B and 266CA concern the father’s entitlement to and use of parental leave...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 c433GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sympathetic to the thinking behind the amendment. The idea of a “father quota”—an ...

Baroness Meacher | 749 cc433-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly, having not participated in this Bill because of other commit...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc434-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very interesting area, and I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Lister for b...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc435-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome this debate because it is important to ensure that the changes made by the Bi...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc437-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Tyler and Lady Meacher, for their supp...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 c438GC (Link to this contribution)

I will just confirm that, as part of the review, these issues will be looked at. It is extremely ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 c438GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister, but we do not want to wait for the review in 2017-18 before steps...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 c438GC (Link to this contribution)

I rise only to say to the noble Baroness that I will be happy to continue these discussions with ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 c439GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Viscount and for the constructive way in which he has engaged in this ...

Lord Touhig | 749 c439GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig

266D: Clause 90, page 68, line 24, at end insert—

“(za) in...

Lord Touhig | 749 cc439-440GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 266D and 266E deal with multiple births. Amendment 266D seeks to allow addit...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc440-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a long group, with a large number of amendments. It breaks into two parts. As I...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc441-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for raising these important issues. Like the noble Lord, Lord Steve...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c442GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I did not detect the softening that I was hoping fo...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc442-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Of course, the noble Lord makes a fair point but this is the minimum requirement that is laid out...

Lord Touhig | 749 c444GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had a series of very good debates this afternoon with a listening Minister, alt...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 cc444-6GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Massey of Darwen

267: Clause 93, leave out Clause 93 and insert the...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 cc446-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 267, in the names of myself and my noble friend Lady Drake, suggests changes ...

Baroness Drake | 749 cc448-450GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 267, which would bring family and friends carers and special guardi...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 c449GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been reminded by the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, that we have had this discussi...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 c449GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. It has been set out so comprehensively and compellingly that I...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc449-451GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to make two points. First, as the noble Baroness indicated, this i...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc451-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome this debate on another important issue. As has been said, and as the noble Ba...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 c453GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response and other speakers for contributing to this shor...

Baroness Drake | 749 cc453-4GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Drake

267A: After Clause 93, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Drake | 749 cc454-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 267A, I will speak also to Amendments 267B and 267C.

Amendmen...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 c457GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Drake’s Amendments 267A, 267B and 267C. I will say a wor...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc457-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 267B, particularly from the perspective of carers for adults, altho...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c458GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I simply want to ask a question. During the past Session, we have managed to achieve co...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c458GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my amendment, which is part of this group, is rather low-key compared to the sort of de...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 c460GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I follow my noble friend Lord Stevenson in supporting this attempt to reach a healthy c...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc460-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, modern families come in all shapes and sizes, and it is important that we recognise the...

Baroness Drake | 749 cc463-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I thank the Minister for his response, and I ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 749 c464GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Knight of Weymouth

267D: After Clause 97, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 749 cc464-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 267D, which would add a new clause after Clause 97, is about parental bereave...

Baroness Brinton | 749 cc466-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it cannot be right that it is a complete lottery for a grieving parent, probably in dee...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is very difficult to follow the well presented case that has been made for action in...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall be very brief because I know that the noble Lord, Lord Knight, should be speaki...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c468GC (Link to this contribution)

I support the amendment. I work with an organisation for children who are born with half a heart....

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc469-470GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important debate on a difficult and moving issue. I am pleased that th...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 749 c470GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to everyone who has spoken in this brief debate, and to the Minister for ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc470-1GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

267E: After Clause 98, insert the following new ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc471-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 267E and also Amendment 268A, I can be brief because the groun...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc472-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the introduction of shared parental leave and the extension of the right to request fle...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comments. The timescale seems incredibly long—seven years is too lon...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 749 c474GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Pitkeathley

267EA: After Clause 98, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 749 cc474-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by apologising for being such a latecomer to this Bill, over which so many of y...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 c475GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to have been able to add my name to the amendment moved by my noble friend...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 c477GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to lend my support to this amendment. The hour is late and I will be bri...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 c477GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, very briefly, it was only about an hour ago that we had exactly the same situation havi...

Baroness Hollins | 749 c477GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, parents of disabled children often do not see themselves as carers, but they are. Their...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc477-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to support the noble Baroness, Lady Pitkeathley, in this amendment. The Minister...

Lord Nash | 749 cc478-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to debate the important issue raised by the noble Baroness, L...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 749 c479GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had hoped that we were making a bit of progress, but I am having a kind of throwback ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

267L: Clause 104, page 112, line 10, leave out “...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we had been led to believe that this session would finish at 8.15 pm but I have not bee...

Lord Popat | 749 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have spoken to the Chief Whip, and we need to complete the Bill today.

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c480GC (Link to this contribution)

I am glad to hear it, but what has that got to do with me?

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 cc480-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I find this very unsatisfactory. As the noble Baroness said, we are all losing our marbles, if no...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 cc481-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the debate on the new arrangements for considering a statutory request for fl...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c482GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the noble Viscount could run through that last bit again. I am sorry, it is late and I am...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 c482GC (Link to this contribution)

We believe that the supporting guidance issued by ACAS will be enough to act as a nudge factor to...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c483GC (Link to this contribution)

All right, I think I am getting there. There will be a code which will have statutory backing. Th...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 749 c484GC (Link to this contribution)

I can reassure the noble Lord that I would be delighted to furnish him with yet another letter an...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 749 c484GC (Link to this contribution)

Not all grit is bad grit. An oyster produces pearls. Perhaps on this occasion the pearl has been ...

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