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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 4 November 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage eighth day. Clause 36-37, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 38-50, agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

749 cc1-60GC 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Legislative Scrutiny: Children and Families Bill; Energy Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee third report with formal minutes and written evidence.
Tuesday, 18 June 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventh report.
Wednesday, 24 July 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Ninth Report.
Wednesday, 9 October 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eleventh report.
Wednesday, 23 October 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 749 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, this Committee will adjourn...

Lord Patel | 749 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Patel

128A: Clause 36, page 28, line 33, after “school” insert “, provi...


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Lord Patel | 749 cc1-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to kick off today’s procedure rather than waiting all day and your tur...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 cc2-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 129, 131, 133, 136, 139, 140, 141 and 142 standing in my ...

Lord Lingfield | 749 c3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have amendments in this group, to which I will speak briefly. In a similar way ...

Lord Nash | 749 cc3-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to this group of amendments on assessment tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 cc5-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister for accepting one of our amendments. That is progress. However...

Lord Nash | 749 c7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for making this point, and we will go away and thin...

Lord Patel | 749 c7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his comments on my amendment. I did not think that the earli...

Lord Touhig | 749 c7GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig)

137: Clause 36, page 29, line 33, leave out subsection (10)

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Lord Touhig | 749 cc7-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 137 is tabled in my name and those of my noble friends Lady Hughes of Stretfo...

Baroness Harris of Richmond | 749 c9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if Amendment 137 is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 138 by reason of pre-emption.

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 cc9-11GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 138, 146, 166, 174, 205AA and 205AB, which are all in my na...

Baroness Cumberlege | 749 cc11-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have three amendments in this group. As this is the first time that I have taken part...

Lord Northbourne | 749 c14GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 146, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp of Guildford. For man...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 cc14-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also say what an absolutely splendid debate we have had so far, particularly the inpu...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c16GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall briefly support the noble Baronesses, Lady Cumberlege and Lady Sharp, and the n...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 cc16-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendments 137, 145, 165 and 173, but I do not propose to speak...

Baroness Wilkins | 749 cc17-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 172 tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Howe. I will not extend much...

Lord Nash | 749 cc18-21GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all who have spoken in this important debate. I know that we all share...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 c21GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not totally happy with what the Minister has said. The funny phrase,

“must h...

Baroness Cumberlege | 749 c21GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo what the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, has just said. Try as I might, I am afraid ...

Lord Touhig | 749 c22GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Secretary of State, Mr Gove, said in a speech at what may have been at his party co...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 c22GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

139: Clause 36, page 29, line 43, leave out par...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 c23GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

142A: After Clause 36, insert the following new Clause—<...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 cc23-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would introduce a new clause after Clause 36, requiring local authorities...

Earl Attlee | 749 cc25-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low, for moving Amendment 142A.

The new cla...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Earl for his response, which I shall want to read with care. At first ...

Earl Attlee | 749 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, or my noble friend Lady Northover, would be delighted to have any meeting as suggest...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 c26GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister for that. I have experience of his courtesy and willingness to...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

143: Clause 37, page 30, line 20, at end insert—

“...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 cc27-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 143 concerns the type of social care provision that should be included in edu...

Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 749 c29GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Low, on this amendment. I have not taken part in this Bi...

Baroness Hollins | 749 cc29-30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of this group of amendments. They aim to achieve equal standing for ...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 cc30-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also support this group of amendments and will speak to Amendments 162 and 163 in my ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand exactly what the Minister means about Section 17, but I cannot understand ...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 c32GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 164 and I endorse what has been said on this issue by...

Lord Nash | 749 cc32-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to respond to this group of amendments regarding the placing of a legal re...

Lord Nash | 749 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

The duty under Section 17 of the Children Act 1989 to meet the needs of all children in need is a...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for intervening. Having been a director of social services and having had to set thos...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister responds, perhaps I may also give him the opportunity to deal with a point? H...

Lord Nash | 749 c34GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to both noble Baronesses for their interruptions. As I said in my letter—and will n...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 c34GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister again. The amendments concerned say that it is where th...

Lord Nash | 749 cc34-5GC (Link to this contribution)

As I have said, there are very significant duties around disabled children. The plan is not inten...

Lord Low of Dalston | 749 cc35-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had an extremely good debate with some very cogent contributions from everyone ...

Lord Touhig | 749 c36GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Touhig

144: Clause 37, page 30, line 20, at end insert—

“( ) any ...

Lord Touhig | 749 cc36-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 144 and 146 are tabled in my name and that of my noble friends Lady Hughes a...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 cc38-40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have tabled two amendments in this group. Before I speak to them, I want to say how i...

Lord Lingfield | 749 cc39-41GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have one amendment in this group, which is to Clause 37(5). It is to provide a standa...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is added to that of the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, for Amendment 147 and I endo...

Lord Addington | 749 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may very briefly add a few words of support, particularly to the last amendme...

Baroness Whitaker | 749 c41GC (Link to this contribution)

I speak in support of Amendment 175A in the name of my noble friend Lord Touhig. I have in mind a...

Earl Attlee | 749 cc42-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Touhig, and other noble Lords who have either mov...

Countess of Mar | 749 c43GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister said that he was against having a statutory form to satisfy local needs. I...

Earl Attlee | 749 cc43-6GC (Link to this contribution)

We are talking about children’s needs, and local authorities will need to ensure that their templ...

Lord Touhig | 749 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had quite a wide-ranging debate and the Minister has had to cover a huge number...

Lord Nash | 749 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

148: Clause 37, page 30, line 25, leave out “and maintenance” and ...

Lord Lexden | 749 c46GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lexden

153: Clause 38, page 31, line 1, leave out paragraph (f) and ins...

Lord Lexden | 749 cc46-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 153 I shall speak also to Amendments 157 and 159. In doing so, I de...

Lord Touhig | 749 cc48-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 158 in my name and in the names of my noble friends Lady Hugh...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 749 c49GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Lexden. I recentl...

Lord Addington | 749 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may briefly add something. It has been a tradition that the independent secto...

Lord Nash | 749 cc50-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments concerns independent specialist provision. I thank all noble L...

Lord Lexden | 749 c52GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all who have taken part in this brief debate, and particularly my noble friends...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 c53GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Sharp of Guildford

176: Clause 49, page 36, line 14, leave out “mus...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 cc53-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 177 and 179 in my name. In Clause 49, we move to the i...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 cc55-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have Amendments 180, 271 and 273 in this group, which I shall address. We have touch...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc56-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke at more length than is usual for me on this when I raised it, under Clause 30, ...

Lord Nash | 749 cc57-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak to this group of amendments concerning personal budgets and the r...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 c58GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I just ask for a point of clarification? I thought that the Minister was beginning to say tha...

Lord Nash | 749 c59GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I will have to respond to the noble Baroness in more detail. I think the top and bottom o...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 749 cc59-60GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister for his reassurances, about the role that school or college pr...

Earl Attlee | 749 c60GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.

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