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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 23 October 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage fifth day. Clause 15-20 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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2013-14

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House of Lords Grand Committee
Legislative Scrutiny: Children and Families Bill; Energy Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee third report with formal minutes and written evidence.
Tuesday, 18 June 2013
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House of Commons
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventh report.
Wednesday, 24 July 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Ninth Report.
Wednesday, 9 October 2013
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Northover | 748 c359GC (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the Deputy Chairman of Committees, I hope it might be helpful to everyone takin...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c359GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I might make a point, as a Cross-Bencher, about the amount of time that may be ...


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Baroness Northover | 748 c359GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Baroness for that comment. I will of course take it back to the usu...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c359GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hughes of Stretford

65: Clause 15, page 15, line 10, after “provisi...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 cc360-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not dwell on this because it rehearses a theme that we spent a great length of t...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c361GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness in this amendment. At his request, I will also speak to th...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 c361GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know that David Norgrove was very concerned that judges spent quite a considerable ti...

Lord McNally | 748 cc361-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. The noble Ba...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 cc362-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, and the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 cc363-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the leave of the Committee, I shall speak in place of the noble and learned Lord, ...

Lord McNally | 748 cc364-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, one of the perils of being a Minister in this House is that the continuity that is one ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern, wanted this matter raised, but he...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 c366GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

65B: Clause 19, page 18, line 30, at end insert—

“...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 cc366-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having laboured, not without difficulty, up the lower slopes of this major and compendi...

Lord Storey | 748 cc368-370GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 67 and 68. The current test in the Bill for whether someone...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 748 cc370-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I applaud what has just been said, as this pins down carefully and cleverly just what y...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 748 cc373-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, earlier in this debate, I referred the Grand Committee to my declaration in respect of ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 cc375-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief—I am sure that the Minister will be grateful for that—but I want to say...

Lord Patel | 748 c376GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 223, to which my name is attached. I will be brief, bec...

Baroness Brinton | 748 cc376-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with the permission of the Grand Committee, I would like to speak sitting down. I have ...

Baroness Grey-Thompson | 748 cc378-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in support of my noble friend Lord Low. I have looked to my experience ...

Baroness Benjamin | 748 cc379-380GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for his amendment because it is a great way of starting the ...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 748 cc380-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 220, 221 and 222, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Storey, an...

Lord Northbourne | 748 c382GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not put my name to an amendment, and I shall speak only for a brief moment to ma...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 cc382-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, have not tabled any particular amendment, but I was minded to contribute by the...

Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 748 c384GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to Amendment 87 along with that of the noble Lord, Lord Low. It rel...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 cc384-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have tabled Amendments 69, 70, 90 and 91, and we have added our names to Amendment 2...

Lord Nash | 748 cc386-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is our first debate on Part 3, and it has been excellent and extensive. I should p...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c388GC (Link to this contribution)

On that point, I wonder if the Minister will accept—as we talked about when we met him this week,...

Lord Nash | 748 cc388-390GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for the noble Baroness’s intervention. I shall take away all the points that have b...

Baroness Benjamin | 748 c390GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, will children with sickle cell disorder also be included? The Minister did not mention ...

Lord Nash | 748 cc390-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I reassure the noble Baroness that the amendment is not just about managing medicines but is abou...

Lord Storey | 748 c391GC (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend clarify that the schools in Part 4 also include free schools and early-years ...

Lord Nash | 748 c391GC (Link to this contribution)

The answer is yes.

In developing the guidance, we would welcome discussions either bilatera...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c391GC (Link to this contribution)

I have listened to this debate with great interest, very much as a novice in this area, although ...

Lord Nash | 748 c391GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Baroness for that intervention. Clearly, we all got that impression...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 c391GC (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may also push the Minister on a point of clarification? I have a quote from the Ministe...

Lord Nash | 748 c392GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is right that the definition has not substantially changed. Our position is th...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c392GC (Link to this contribution)

On that point, I think that it would be helpful, if we are to help the Minister, if he could firs...

Lord Nash | 748 cc392-3GC (Link to this contribution)

The Equality Act, the Children Act and the NHS Act are the relevant legislation, but I will provi...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 748 c393GC (Link to this contribution)

Looking at my Amendment 223 and the government amendment—I am very pleased with it—an omission is...

Lord Nash | 748 c393GC (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to stimulate that discussion. The guidance will make clear our expectation that school...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 c394GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been quite a long debate. We have been going for nearly a couple of hours. It ...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 c394GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

65C: Clause 19, page 18, line 30, at end insert—

“...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 cc394-5GC (Link to this contribution)

It is me again so soon. Amendment 65C is the only amendment in this group, which means that I sho...

Baroness Northover | 748 c395GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Low, for tabling this amendment. The SEN provisio...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 c395GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there seems to be a good deal in the Minister’s response that should potentially provid...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 c396GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Low of Dalston

65D: Clause 19, page 18, line 30, at end insert—

“...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 cc396-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also speak in support of Amendment 157B, which was tabled by the noble Baroness...

Baroness Eaton | 748 cc399-400GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak in support of Amendment 219, in the names of the noble Baronesses, Lady...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 748 c400GC (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of Amendments 65D and 219. As the noble Lord, Lord Low, said, Amendmen...

Baroness Brinton | 748 cc400-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a trustee of UNICEF. I, too, am delighted to be speaking in fa...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c402GC (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, I support my noble friends Lady Howe and Lord Low on Amendment 219. I commend to the Min...

Lord Nash | 748 cc402-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Low, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Howe and Lady Wilkins, for tabli...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 748 c405GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister moves on, I would be grateful if he could answer my question whether he accep...

Lord Nash | 748 c406GC (Link to this contribution)

We do not accept it. We feel that we deal with it in the provisions that I have mentioned. I will...

Lord Low of Dalston | 748 cc406-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all those who have spoken unanimously in support of these amendments. I am parti...

Lord Storey | 748 c407GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Storey

66: Clause 19, page 18, line 30, at end insert—

“( ) The f...

Lord Storey | 748 cc407-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Clause 19 sets out the principles for involving children and young people with special educationa...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 748 cc408-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Storey, in this group. They follow the...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c409GC (Link to this contribution)

I, too, support the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Storey, and supported by my noble f...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 c410GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Hughes, and those who have spoken to these amendment...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 748 c410GC (Link to this contribution)

I will not keep the Committee for long. As my name is attached to a number of amendments in this ...

Baroness Northover | 748 cc410-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Storey for his welcome of Clause 19, which was echoed by o...

Lord Storey | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for her clear and concise reply. It reassures me. I agree with the noble ...

Lord Lucas | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I give my noble friend brief warning that I am totally delighted by Clause 19, particul...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ramsbotham

70A: Clause 20, page 19, line 8, at end insert—

“( ) A...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, looking at the clock, I am a little alarmed. Will we rise at 7.45 pm or will we go on u...

Baroness Northover | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

We plan to rise as close as we can to 7.45 pm, having completed the group. I trust that acts as a...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c412GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the Minister, but I am extremely concerned about that because this group in...

Baroness Morris of Bolton | 748 c413GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may help the Committee if I say that it is possible under certain circumstances to f...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 cc413-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, slightly unusually, I shall speak to Amendments 76 and 78 before I speak to Amendment 7...

Lord Touhig | 748 cc415-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 77 in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hughes of Str...

Lord Addington | 748 cc417-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. For anyone who know...

Baroness Whitaker | 748 c418GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I record my support for all these amendments and declare an interest as the patron of t...

Lord Storey | 748 cc418-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 80. Clause 22 requires local authorities to identify whether ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 c419GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to this amendment. Clause 32, “Advice and information for parents a...

Lord Lucas | 748 c419GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I ask the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, whether he has addressed Amendment 76, or is...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c419GC (Link to this contribution)

I addressed Amendments 76 and 78 together.

Lord Lucas | 748 cc420-1GC (Link to this contribution)

Then I shall add them to what I am going to say. I very much support what the noble Lord says abo...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c421GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has completely misunderstood what I was saying about Amendments 76 and 78. I sugge...

Lord Nash | 748 cc421-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 22 extends the current requirement on local authorities to exercise their powers...

Lord Ramsbotham | 748 c424GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to all those who have spoken, including the Minister for his summing up. When ...

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