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Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 9 October 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1, 4 and 6, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 2,3 and 5 agreed to. Committee adjourned.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

748 cc1-56GC 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Children and Families Bill 2012-13 to 2013-14. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 12 June 2013
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee seventh report.
Wednesday, 24 July 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2013-1663
Tuesday, 1 October 2013
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Nash | 748 c1GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

1: Clause 1, page 1, leave out lines 8 to 12 and insert—

““(...

Lord Nash | 748 cc1-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to the government amendment to Clause 1. I start by thanking the adoption...


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Viscount Ullswater | 748 c2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must advise your Lordships that if this amendment is agreed to, I will not be able to...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hughes of Stretford

2: Clause 1, line 4, leave out “C” and insert “...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 cc2-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, may I welcome the Minister to the first meeting of his first Bill Committee? I thank hi...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 cc5-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have two amendments in this group. As we are starting in Committee, I begin by decla...

Baroness Walmsley | 748 c7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to add a couple of comments to those of my noble friend Lady Hamwee, with whose ...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 748 cc7-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two brief points. First, like the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, I am concerned ab...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 cc8-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have three points. I begin by saying that I believe that legislation should enhance a...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 748 c9GC (Link to this contribution)

I am reluctant to query the noble Baroness because I am aware of her huge expertise in this area ...

Earl of Listowel | 748 cc9-11GC (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the Minister to his first Grand Committee day of a Bill and thank him for his tim...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 748 cc11-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interests. I, too, was a member of the Adoption Legislation Select Committ...

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede | 748 c13GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make a brief intervention. I welcome the Minister to his current position. He...

Lord Nash | 748 cc13-7GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to noble Lords for their kind welcome as we start our consideration of this very im...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 cc17-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to the debate on this important subject, many of ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c19GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

11: Clause 2, page 1, line 15, at end insert—

“(...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 cc19-21GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a considerable number of interests that I need to declare, not all of which I ha...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 cc21-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our Amendment 12 is on the same issue and a similar wording to that moved so eloquently...

Baroness Young of Hornsey | 748 cc22-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like many others, I see many good intentions in the Bill and, along with others, I welc...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 748 cc24-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lady Jones of Whitchurch made reference to the UN Convention on the Rig...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 cc25-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I too have my name to Amendment 11. It seems that these issues of religious persuasion, racial or...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 cc26-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to say something about where I think this all came from. We should remind ...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 748 c27GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the UN convention quoted by the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, asks for respect for a chil...

Baroness Walmsley | 748 cc27-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to make two points. First, I agree with the noble Baronesses, Lady Lister ...

Baroness Benjamin | 748 cc28-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. Living in Britain as a culturally diverse person can be very c...

Lord Nash | 748 cc29-30GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a number of moving contributions have been made to this debate, particularly by my nobl...

Lord Nash | 748 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

Six per cent of white children in care are adopted while 2% of black children in care are adopted...

Baroness Young of Hornsey | 748 c30GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt. I just want to get this clear, because the Minister seems to be saying t...

Lord Nash | 748 cc30-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for enabling me to clarify this point. I am not saying that i...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c31GC (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me for interrupting, but I wonder if I could have the date of Elaine Farmer’s report.

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Lord Nash | 748 cc31-2GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Baroness will get that information in a second.

A study by Julie Selw...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 cc32-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken on this amendment with a unanimity of support for it....

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c33GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

13: Clause 3, page 2, line 28, at end insert—

“( ) Dir...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 cc34-5GC (Link to this contribution)

This and other amendments in the group take us to Clause 3, which deals with the recruitment, ass...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 cc35-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 14 to 17 in my name in relation to Clause 3, which, as we h...

Lord Storey | 748 cc37-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it really is important that we do what is best for the potentially adopted child or you...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c38GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I endorse what the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said. I shall read out again one senten...

Baroness Walmsley | 748 cc38-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for a number of reasons, I support my noble friends in their Amendment 13 and on clause...

Earl of Listowel | 748 c39GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened with great interest to this debate. I remember the last days of the pre...

Baroness Benjamin | 748 cc39-40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, much of Clause 3 is perfectly reasonable. It would allow the Secretary of State to take...

Viscount Eccles | 748 c40GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are fundamental problems with this clause. As has been said, there is no appeal a...

Lord Nash | 748 cc40-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I begin with the proposal to remove the clause, but most of what I will say is also relevant to a...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 748 c42GC (Link to this contribution)

I have been accused of being rather unkind to the Minister in thinking that there might be some p...

Lord Nash | 748 cc42-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I did say that Clause 3 provides for such a solution. It is not a solution in itself. As I s...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c43GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is quite distressing—in a Bill that, as noble Lords have said, by and large we welco...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c44GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

18: Clause 4, page 3, line 2, after “asked” insert “at any t...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c44GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a small amendment but it concerns an important point. Clause 4 takes us to adop...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 cc44-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have two amendments in this group, Amendments 19 and 270. Amendment 19 is about the ...

Baroness Northover | 748 cc45-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I respond to the important points that have been raised, I should like to explai...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c47GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the “at any time” amendment, the concern in my mind is that local authorities are bo...

Baroness Northover | 748 c47GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Northover

20: Clause 4, page 3, line 44, at end insert—

“( ) ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 c47GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

21: Clause 6, page 4, line 27, leave out subsec...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 cc47-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have Amendments 21 and 24 in this group and I shall address them both. Amendment 21 ...

Lord Nash | 748 cc49-50GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak first to Amendment 21, tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady Hughes and Lad...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 748 c50GC (Link to this contribution)

I think I understood the Minister to say that the Government were taking the delegated powers poi...

Lord Nash | 748 c51GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

22: Clause 6, page 5, line 9, at end insert—

“( ) On the occ...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c51GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

25: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 cc51-3GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that we are coming to this amendment late on the first day. I understand that we start...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c54GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I put my name to this amendment. In paragraph 274 of our post-legislative scrutiny comm...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 748 cc54-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that most of the points have been made, but I want to go back to the days when ...

Lord Nash | 748 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend Lady Hamwee, the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, and the n...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 748 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the Minister. Under this proposal, there is no suggestion that there should be any...

Lord Nash | 748 c55GC (Link to this contribution)

I assure the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, that we are not seeking to be disinge...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may reinforce, if it is necessary because I think that it will be clear enoug...

Lord Nash | 748 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

I should be delighted to meet the noble Baroness. It seems to me that there is a clear misunderst...

Baroness Hamwee | 748 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that and on that note I am happy to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Northover | 748 c56GC (Link to this contribution)

This may be a convenient moment to adjourn the Committee and to suggest that we meet again on Mon...

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