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Renters (Reform) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 23 October 2023, in the House of Commons, led by Michael Gove. The answering members were Matthew Pennycook, Angela Rayner and Rachel Maclean.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on committal, proceedings in Public Bill Committee, consideration, third reading and other proceedings. Agreed to on question. Money resolution and King's recommendation signified. Agreed to on question. Ways and means resolution. Agreed to on question. Carry-over motion. Agreed to on question.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

738 cc629-706 

Session

2022-23

Legislative stage

Second reading

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Banking structure in Northern Ireland.
Wednesday, 16 October 2013
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Reforming the private rented sector. Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee fifth report.
Monday, 6 February 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Renters (Reform) Bill 2022-23
Wednesday, 17 May 2023
Bills
House of Commons
Correspondence from the Minister of State for Housing and Planning relating to the Renters (Reform) Bill
Monday, 5 June 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

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Monday, 10 July 2023
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Private Rented Sector Report and the Renters (Reform) Bill
Friday, 28 July 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Follow up: Private rented sector report and the Renters (Reform) Bill.
Monday, 11 September 2023
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Michael Gove | 738 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

Before I get into the detail of wha...

Bernard Jenkin | 738 c631 (Link to this contribution)

May I add my thanks to my right hon. Friend for finally publishing a response to the Select Commi...


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Michael Gove | 738 c631 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an important point, which gives me an opportunity to apologise to the House,...

Tim Farron | 738 c631 (Link to this contribution)

The delay has cost hundreds of families in my constituency their homes. Section 21 evictions have...

Michael Gove | 738 c631 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Gentleman knows, I have an enormous amount of respect for the work that he does in th...

Michael Gove | 738 c632 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way at this stage; I will make a wee bit of progress, then I hope to give way sho...

Toby Perkins | 738 c632 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Secretary of State give way?

Michael Gove | 738 c632 (Link to this contribution)

Not for the moment.

The private rented sector has doubled in size since 2004, to the point ...

Michael Gove | 738 c632 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to give way to the hon. Member for Brighton, Pavilion (Caroline Lucas), then to t...

Caroline Lucas | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

There is plenty to welcome in this Bill, but it should have been an opportunity to increase minim...

Michael Gove | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady; no one could doubt her sincerity or her commitment to making sure...

Michael Gove | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give way to the hon. Member for Strangford.

Jim Shannon | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is right to say that the encouragement of private landlords is important to ensure t...

Michael Gove | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, landlords and any property owner must have the right to sell their home if they need o...

Toby Perkins | 738 c633 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. This weekend I was out meeting flood victims in Ch...

Michael Gove | 738 c634 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman up to a point, but I would not characterise it in quite that way....

Feryal Clark | 738 c634 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for giving way. My constituents, Esther and Fred, lost th...

Michael Gove | 738 c634 (Link to this contribution)

I am deeply sorry to hear about the personal tragedy that the hon. Lady’s constituents have suffe...

Jeremy Corbyn | 738 c634 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for giving way. I noted he said that, nationally, around 20% of th...

Michael Gove | 738 c634 (Link to this contribution)

Although the right hon. Gentleman and I have had many disagreements, there is no one who doubts t...

Michael Gove | 738 c635 (Link to this contribution)

Please forgive me; I am just responding to the right hon. Gentleman. It is the case that our effe...

Marcus Fysh | 738 c635 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend not agree that the Bill would do exactly what he has just been saying i...

Michael Gove | 738 c635 (Link to this contribution)

I am very fond of my hon. Friend, but that is just not true. We have seen an increase in the numb...

Michael Gove | 738 cc635-6 (Link to this contribution)

No, I have been generous so far. Every intervention only takes time from those who wish to contri...

Michael Gove | 738 c636 (Link to this contribution)

I am more than happy to give way—

Roger Gale | 738 c636 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I think that I am right in saying that the hon. Lady has only just entered the Chamber. Sh...

Michael Gove | 738 cc636-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to colleagues in a moment. The key thing to consider when thinking about how thos...

Michael Gove | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

I am now more than happy to give way to a range of colleagues.

Roger Gale | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I will allow the right hon. Gentleman to do that in just a moment, but first let me set th...

Desmond Swayne | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

I accept entirely the force of what the Secretary of State has said, but clearly under section 8 ...

Michael Gove | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

Actually, I agree with my right hon. Friend. It is vital that we ensure that the courts system is...

Daniel Kawczynski | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

My constituent Jan Childs rented a property in Much Wenlock to an individual she got into a dispu...

Michael Gove | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

It is not so much this Bill; it is more the steps that we are taking in order to improve the just...

Desmond Swayne | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I apologise; I should have referred to my entry in the Re...

Michael Gove | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is nearly always right and always honourable.

Wera Hobhouse | 738 c637 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, put on the record my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. Some months a...

Michael Gove | 738 c638 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my colleague the Housing and Planning Minister has met the hon. Lady, and we will res...

Munira Wilson | 738 c638 (Link to this contribution)

Given that the Secretary of State is getting quite a few pot shots from behind him, let me help h...

Michael Gove | 738 c638 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. The sooner the Bill is on the statute book, the sooner we can proceed. Alongside that...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 738 c638 (Link to this contribution)

On the enhanced grounds for antisocial behaviour, I have one constituent who has been evicted bec...

Michael Gove | 738 c638 (Link to this contribution)

I very much take the hon. Gentleman’s point. I do not believe that either of those two cases woul...

Rupa Huq | 738 cc638-9 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, welcome the intention to scrap no-fault evictions. A year ago I asked about the matter at...

Michael Gove | 738 c639 (Link to this contribution)

First, we will be clear that landlords cannot have blanket bans of the kind that the hon. Lady ri...

Clive Betts | 738 c639 (Link to this contribution)

The Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee raised the need for an effective and efficien...

Michael Gove | 738 c639 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Chair of the Select Committee, but the view of the Ministry of Justice, His ...

Eddie Hughes | 738 c639 (Link to this contribution)

I rise as what is known as an “accidental landlord”, who conveniently owns and rents out a proper...

Michael Gove | 738 c639 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Two of the less conspicuous but important parts of the Bill a...

Selaine Saxby | 738 c640 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome better protections for renters; in my constituency, swathes of constituents have been e...

Michael Gove | 738 c640 (Link to this contribution)

What I would like to see in my hon. Friend’s constituency and so many others is an increase in ho...

Stephen Timms | 738 c640 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State has just mentioned the private rental ombudsman, a post that I welcome. Is...

Michael Gove | 738 cc640-1 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, we are. There is a case for both a separate organisation and for having the issue fall to th...

Marsha De Cordova | 738 c641 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill would have been a good opportunity to bring forward provisions ensuring that homes are k...

Michael Gove | 738 c641 (Link to this contribution)

At the very beginning of my introduction to the Bill, I stressed my gratitude to all those who ha...

Angela Rayner | 738 cc641-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to open this debate on behalf of the Opposition. I start by saying that we on th...

Toby Perkins | 738 c642 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State was at pains to stress that the majority of landlords are good ones. It is...

Angela Rayner | 738 c642 (Link to this contribution)

I agree. I hope I can bring the House together when I say that it is right that we get moving on ...

Jim Shannon | 738 c642 (Link to this contribution)

There may well be consensus in the House—I hope there is; we will see how it goes later on. A maj...

Angela Rayner | 738 c643 (Link to this contribution)

We need legislation for decent homes alongside these provisions. I hope that we can get into that...

Caroline Lucas | 738 c643 (Link to this contribution)

On decent home standards, would the right hon. Lady support the integration of Awaab’s law into t...

Angela Rayner | 738 cc643-4 (Link to this contribution)

If we can address that in the Bill, we should push for it, but we should also push to ensure that...

Matt Rodda | 738 c644 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. I am grateful to her for highlighting that po...

Angela Rayner | 738 c644 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for highlighting that concern. To be fair to the Secretary of State, he ac...

Kerry McCarthy | 738 c644 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right to highlight the human cost of those evictions, but there is also a...

Angela Rayner | 738 cc644-5 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. I also think that, as the Secretary of State mentioned, most private landlord...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 738 c645 (Link to this contribution)

Is there not a particular problem with the evidence that the rent tribunals will look at? The pro...

Angela Rayner | 738 c645 (Link to this contribution)

It is absolutely right that we get into these challenges, because I do not think people feel that...

Clive Betts | 738 c645 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill does not really deal with the issue of affordability at all. One of the big issues is th...

Angela Rayner | 738 cc645-6 (Link to this contribution)

We have to get into that issue, but we also have to deal with the root cause, which is that we do...

Wera Hobhouse | 738 c646 (Link to this contribution)

To ensure that tenants have that safety, does the right hon. Lady agree that we need a new regula...

Angela Rayner | 738 c646 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill talks about the ombudsman. We need to make sure that landlords understand their obligati...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 738 cc646-7 (Link to this contribution)

It will be obvious to the House that a great many people want to catch my eye. We have a long tim...

Natalie Elphicke | 738 cc647-8 (Link to this contribution)

In 2014, fellow housing expert Calum Mercer and I published a then-seminal paper called “Nation R...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 738 cc648-9 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Chair of the Levelling Up, Housing and Communities Committee.

6.53 pm

Clive Betts | 738 cc649-650 (Link to this contribution)

First, I put on record that I am a vice-president of the Local Government Association.

Havi...

Munira Wilson | 738 c650 (Link to this contribution)

I strongly support the point that the hon. Gentleman has just made about the importance of the Go...

Clive Betts | 738 c650 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with those points, and I hope the Secretary of State responds positively to th...

Michael Gove | 738 c650 (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, I wish to declare my interest. As the parent of a daughter who is currently at Mancheste...

Clive Betts | 738 c651 (Link to this contribution)

I recognise that the Secretary of State has responded to the Committee’s report, and while not al...

Craig Whittaker | 738 cc651-3 (Link to this contribution)

Everybody agrees that people deserve to live in rented homes that are safe, warm, free from damp ...

Marcus Fysh | 738 c653 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware that just five days ago Jones Lang LaSalle, one of the biggest property c...

Craig Whittaker | 738 c653 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is a problem right throughout the country, not just the ...

Karen Buck | 738 cc653-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is genuinely hard to overstate the scale of the housing crisis that we are in, in 2023. Every ...

Ben Everitt | 738 cc655-6 (Link to this contribution)

This is without doubt a significant Bill, which shows that the Conservative Government are seriou...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 738 c656 (Link to this contribution)

I call Feryal Clark—not here. That is a shock.

7.20 pm

Kim Johnson | 738 cc656-7 (Link to this contribution)

I join colleagues across the House in welcoming this long-overdue Bill and share their dismay at ...

Mary Robinson | 738 cc657-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to rise to speak on Second Reading of a Bill that fulfils a manifesto promise and in...

Anna Firth | 738 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an important point. The people of Southend West are great animal lovers,...

Mary Robinson | 738 cc658-9 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly agree, and my hon. Friend has pre-empted many of my comments. It is heartbreaking for...

Paul Blomfield | 738 cc659-661 (Link to this contribution)

Almost 40% of my constituents are private renters, and I am pleased to have the opportunity to re...

Duncan Baker | 738 cc661-2 (Link to this contribution)

I must declare that I own half of a rental property with my wife and should therefore refer the H...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 738 c662 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my hon. Friend, whose area I know well because—I declare an interest—I farm...

Duncan Baker | 738 cc662-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for intervening. I do not agree at all, actually. In constituencies like m...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 738 c664 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Just for the sake of clarity, let me say that I am grateful to the hon. Member for North N...

Helen Morgan | 738 cc664-6 (Link to this contribution)

Let me first draw Members’ attention to my own entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Intere...

Edward Leigh | 738 cc666-8 (Link to this contribution)

I have no financial interest in the Bill. I am not a landlord, have never been one, and have no d...

Marsha De Cordova | 738 cc668-9 (Link to this contribution)

Today’s Second Reading of the Renters (Reform) Bill is long overdue but, as many have already sai...

Robert Syms | 738 cc669-671 (Link to this contribution)

I draw Members’ attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.

Look...

Ian Byrne | 738 cc670-2 (Link to this contribution)

For my constituents in Liverpool, West Derby, and for millions across the country, the private re...

Nick Fletcher | 738 cc672-4 (Link to this contribution)

I refer hon. Members to my declaration on the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. I have be...

Zarah Sultana | 738 cc673-5 (Link to this contribution)

The housing system is rigged against renters. In Britain today, on average, private renters spend...

Angela Richardson | 738 c675 (Link to this contribution)

We have a mandate from the British people to deliver this Bill, and I know that passing it into l...

Helen Hayes | 738 cc675-7 (Link to this contribution)

I see the impacts of the lack of regulation in the private rented sector in my constituency every...

Anthony Mangnall | 738 cc677-8 (Link to this contribution)

Listening to this debate, I am surprised that we are being accused of dither and delay when 13 ye...

Andrew Western | 738 cc678-680 (Link to this contribution)

Like my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield South East (Mr Betts), I begin by informing the Hous...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 738 cc679-682 (Link to this contribution)

Let me first refer the House to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests and decl...

Natalie Elphicke | 738 c682 (Link to this contribution)

My co-chair of the APPG on this subject is making some very important points. Could he further de...

Lloyd Russell-Moyle | 738 cc682-3 (Link to this contribution)

I would love to, but we do not have much time. However, there needs to be some discussion about w...

Liz Twist | 738 cc683-4 (Link to this contribution)

Never a day goes by without a constituent, or more than one constituent, contacting me about prob...

Caroline Lucas | 738 cc684-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is about time. It is nearly five years since promises were first made to tenants facing soarin...

Fleur Anderson | 738 cc686-7 (Link to this contribution)

The rights of renters is one of the biggest issues in Putney, Southfields and Roehampton, where t...

Alex Sobel | 738 c687 (Link to this contribution)

One of my constituents was served with a section 21 no-fault eviction notice on their house: a si...

Fleur Anderson | 738 cc687-8 (Link to this contribution)

We absolutely do. I very much welcome that intervention. We all have so many stories and know so ...

Roger Gale | 738 c688 (Link to this contribution)

I call the ever-patient John McDonnell.

9.20 pm

John McDonnell | 738 cc688-9 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) and I know, always being called last means that w...

Marcus Fysh | 738 c689 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that, in London, part of the problem is that the amount of r...

John McDonnell | 738 cc689-690 (Link to this contribution)

Look, the major problem is that we are not building enough council houses. On the Conservative Be...

Roger Gale | 738 c690 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Opposition Front- Bench spokesman.

9.27 pm

Matthew Pennycook | 738 cc690-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to close this Second Reading debate for the Opposition, and I thank all hon. and...

Rachel Maclean | 738 cc693-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a huge pleasure to deliver the closing speech today on the Second Reading of the Government...

Clive Betts | 738 c694 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister’s children are in their 20s, but we want to make sure that they are not in their 30s...

Rachel Maclean | 738 c694 (Link to this contribution)

I will come on to that precise point, if the hon. Member will allow me.

I want to thank the...

Rachel Maclean | 738 cc694-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will make progress, because I have limited time and I must address the points that have been pu...

Rachel Maclean | 738 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to Members if I have time, but please allow me to make my points.

There hav...

Richard Graham | 738 c696 (Link to this contribution)

If the Bill’s Second Reading receives widespread support because it will rightly ditch no-fault e...

Rachel Maclean | 738 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend very much. I can absolutely give him that assurance.

Marcus Fysh | 738 c696 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that if the Country Land and Business Association’s estimate is correct ...

Rachel Maclean | 738 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to work with my hon. Friend on this and many other issues, but it is important th...

Rachel Maclean | 738 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I want to wind up now, because I cannot detain the House any longer. I assure right hon. and hon....

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