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Restoration and Renewal of the Palace of Westminster

Debate on Tuesday, 12 July 2022, in the House of Commons, led by Mark Spencer. The answering member was Thangam Debbonaire.
Motion that reaffirms its commitment to preserving the Palace of Westminster for future generations and ensuring the safety of all those who work in and visit the Palace, now and in the future; notwithstanding the Resolution of 31 January 2018, welcomes the report from the House of Commons and House of Lords Commissions proposing a new mandate for the Restoration and Renewal works and a new governance structure to support them;accordingly endorses the recommendations set out in the Commissions' report; and in consequence, approves the establishment of a joint department of the two Houses, under the terms of the Parliament (Joint Departments) Act 2007. Considered with amendments (a) and (b). Amendments not moved. Main question agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

718 cc297-301 

Session

2022-23

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 718 c271 (Link to this contribution)

I can inform the House that Mr Speaker has selected both the amendments on the Order Paper: amend...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc271-2 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House:

reaffirms its commitment to preserving the Palace of ...


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Chris Bryant | 718 c272 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman knows that I am very critical of what the Commissions have done in this ...

Mark Spencer | 718 c273 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to confirm that to the hon. Gentleman, who I know has taken a great interest in this p...

Meg Hillier | 718 c273 (Link to this contribution)

The Leader of the House has acknowledged that he is not an expert, and that most of us in this Ho...

Mark Spencer | 718 c273 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that, but the hon. Lady is absolutely right. What we need to do is get on with thi...

John Redwood | 718 c273 (Link to this contribution)

Do we not also need some common sense and realism? Surely the priority is to do those works that ...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc273-4 (Link to this contribution)

I honestly think we can do both. I think we can get to an understanding and a place where, with e...

Lord Grayling | 718 c274 (Link to this contribution)

One of the reasons why those of us who sat on the Joint Committee seven years ago—it is sad that ...

Mark Spencer | 718 c274 (Link to this contribution)

That is a little disingenuous. The cast-iron roof project, for example, was delivered in-house an...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 718 c274 (Link to this contribution)

Following on from my right hon. Friend the Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris Grayling), it is cer...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc274-5 (Link to this contribution)

That would require this House to change that model again if that were the case. That expertise wi...

Kirsty Blackman | 718 c275 (Link to this contribution)

On the staff team and the Sponsor Body, will the Leader of the House give a commitment that all o...

Mark Spencer | 718 c275 (Link to this contribution)

They are currently planned to TUPE across, and they will be taken across. Some of them have alrea...

Chris Bryant | 718 c275 (Link to this contribution)

The Leader of the House keeps talking about how every Parliament has to be able to reform and cha...

Mark Spencer | 718 c276 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is wrong, in that we are changing the structures but he has to recognise that ...

Bill Wiggin | 718 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case that this project may never end, because as things go on breaking and evolving...

Mark Spencer | 718 c276 (Link to this contribution)

Where my hon. Friend is right is that it is a little bit like the Forth Bridge, in that there wil...

Meg Hillier | 718 c276 (Link to this contribution)

On the point of fire safety, could the Leader of the House confirm that the tens of millions of p...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc276-7 (Link to this contribution)

Of course; it is absolutely vital. I hope that the hon. Lady will recognise that actually Notre D...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 718 c277 (Link to this contribution)

This is a critically important point. The Leader of the House has said that an outline business c...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc277-8 (Link to this contribution)

That clearly would be the ambition—to try and get on with that as soon as possible, but there is ...

Thangam Debbonaire | 718 cc278-9 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the opportunity to contribute to this timely debate on how we will govern the essential...

Mark Tami | 718 c279 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend talks about costs and we have heard about spiralling costs. The Sponsor Body has b...

Thangam Debbonaire | 718 c279 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is exactly right. We do not have to be expert builders to see that this is g...

Karin Smyth | 718 c279 (Link to this contribution)

In 2015, I was a member of the Public Accounts Committee, ably chaired by my hon. Friend the Memb...

Thangam Debbonaire | 718 c280 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that question. She is right to raise it and to pay tribute to the work...

Meg Hillier | 718 c280 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for her comments about the Public Accounts Committee. To be clear, the rol...

Thangam Debbonaire | 718 cc280-2 (Link to this contribution)

I completely support what my hon. Friend says. Why are we here? I have already mentioned my own v...

Lord Grayling | 718 c282 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend the Leader of the House is new to this. I recognise that both as a friend an...

Mark Tami | 718 c282 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is a fellow person who has been at this for seven years. We have already...

Lord Grayling | 718 cc282-3 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. We went through all this seven years ago. It is hug...

Chris Bryant | 718 c283 (Link to this contribution)

Is not one of the difficulties that all the alternative places that we would have to go to in an ...

Lord Grayling | 718 cc283-5 (Link to this contribution)

We have been around the houses on this. We had all the proposals, whether it was “Let’s build som...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 718 c285 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before I bring in the SNP spokesperson, colleagues will see that we have at least nine mor...

Kirsty Blackman | 718 cc285-6 (Link to this contribution)

First, I want to note an interest, in that I am on the sponsor board; I have been the SNP’s deleg...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 718 c286 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the hon. Lady for stopping her in full rant, but does she not appreciate that this...

Kirsty Blackman | 718 c286 (Link to this contribution)

Maintaining this building properly, making it safe and making it so it does not burn down is a ve...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 718 c287 (Link to this contribution)

What does the hon. Lady envisage this building would become? Would it just become an empty shell,...

Kirsty Blackman | 718 c287 (Link to this contribution)

Honestly, I do not really care: I am going to be out of here, the Scottish National party is goin...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 718 c287 (Link to this contribution)

Order. We will start with a seven-minute time limit.

7.43 pm

Edward Leigh | 718 cc287-8 (Link to this contribution)

That was an interesting speech, although I am not sure that the hon. Member for Aberdeen North (K...

Chris Bryant | 718 c288 (Link to this contribution)

One of the problems is that lots of people advocate for having lots more of those individual proj...

Edward Leigh | 718 cc288-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes his point and we just have to learn to compromise. He mentions Mr Speake...

Nicholas Brown | 718 cc289-291 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Gainsborough (Sir Edward Leigh). When he and...

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 718 cc291-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to catch your eye in this debate. May I say stra...

Mark Tami | 718 cc293-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is four and a half years since we reached our decision and I think it has been said that it is...

Kirsty Blackman | 718 c294 (Link to this contribution)

Just to link that to the hon. Member’s earlier point, does he think there is much point in consul...

Mark Tami | 718 c294 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very fair point. As I said, the decision has effectively been made.

Let us be hon...

Meg Hillier | 718 cc294-7 (Link to this contribution)

This is a very disappointing debate because, as other hon. Members have said, we have been going<...

Nick Smith | 718 c297 (Link to this contribution)

I will be quick, Madam Deputy Speaker. My contribution tonight is born of seven years of frustrat...

Margaret Ferrier | 718 cc297-9 (Link to this contribution)

The building we are standing in today is more than a building; it is a symbol recognised the worl...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc299-300 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, Madam Deputy Speaker, I would like to conclude by thanking all hon. ...

Meg Hillier | 718 c300 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way at such a late stage. One of my concerns is that ...

Mark Spencer | 718 c300 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is right to draw attention to that. One of the fundamental problems is that, becaus...

Lord Grayling | 718 c300 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to accept my right hon. Friend’s assurances that he will press ahead and ask the Deliv...

Mark Spencer | 718 cc300-1 (Link to this contribution)

That message has been well and truly received, and I am grateful for the contributions that have ...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 718 c301 (Link to this contribution)

The amendments are not being pressed to a Division, so the question is the main question as on th...

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