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United Kingdom Internal Market Bill

Debate on bills and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Tuesday, 15 September 2020, in the House of Commons, led by Drew Hendry. The answering member was Paul Scully.
Committee stage (first day). Clause 28, debated with clauses 29 to 39, amendments and new clauses 1 to 4. Amendment 28 negatived on division (51 to 351). Clauses 28 to 39 ordered to stand part. New clause 2 negatived on division (195 to 356).

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2019-21

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Committee stage

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House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I should explain that in these exceptional circumstances, although the Chair of the Committee wou...

Drew Hendry | 680 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 28, page 20, line 31, leave out “, Scotland”.

This amendment would ...


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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 cc205-6 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Clause 28 stand part.

Amend...

Drew Hendry | 680 cc206-7 (Link to this contribution)

Dame Rosie, it is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. I rise to talk to amendments 28 to...

Patrick Grady | 680 c207 (Link to this contribution)

Does this not get to the crunch? Government Members keep asking what powers are being taken away ...

Drew Hendry | 680 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I could not agree more. This simply does not have to happen. Scotland does not need it, and Scotl...

Drew Hendry | 680 cc207-8 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am saying that, but that is also what the National Farmers Union is saying. It is also wha...

Paul Bristow | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman called the Office for the Internal Market an unelected quango. Does he accept ...

Drew Hendry | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

This is the argument that Government Members try to propagate all the time—that if these powers c...

Drew Hendry | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress.

The UK Government say that they want to

“guarantee the con...

Alison Thewliss | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the points that my hon. Friend is making. Is he as concerned as I am to find that wh...

Drew Hendry | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly; my hon. Friend makes a telling point. To say that the protections are opaque would be an...

Richard Fuller | 680 c208 (Link to this contribution)

I am keen, as I mentioned yesterday, to learn more about some of the points of view that the hon....

Drew Hendry | 680 c209 (Link to this contribution)

The problem with that question is that there is already, as I mentioned at the start of my remark...

Jonathan Edwards | 680 c209 (Link to this contribution)

I fully agree with amendment 28, which is very well drafted. The same should apply to Wales and N...

Drew Hendry | 680 c210 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and this is a matter that does not just affect Scotland, as the hon. Gentleman said. Even...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c210 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has made some strong points, but does he agree that it does not have to be thi...

Drew Hendry | 680 c210 (Link to this contribution)

That sort of attitude towards what should be co-operation over our common interest underlines the...

William Cash | 680 c210 (Link to this contribution)

The arguments that I have just heard from the hon. Member for Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Stra...

Drew Hendry | 680 c210 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, especially as I just recently concluded my re...

William Cash | 680 cc210-1 (Link to this contribution)

What I can say for sure is that it will not be the European Union, and that summarises the argume...

Alan Brown | 680 c211 (Link to this contribution)

Let us come to the here and now, looking at this Bill. Say, in the future, the Scottish Governmen...

William Cash | 680 c211 (Link to this contribution)

As far as I am aware, the answer is no. The Office for the Internal Market will not be able to ov...

William Cash | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

Just a minute. We have proposed in this Bill that monitoring and advice regarding the UK’s intern...

John Redwood | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend confirm that the Bill says that these reports, which are not in themselves bi...

William Cash | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

That is absolutely right. In fact, I argue that the provisions of the Bill as a whole maintain th...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

I am a Unionist, too. I believe in our Union and I believe that we are stronger together, but the...

William Cash | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

If Euro-integrationism were to get in the way, that would be a problem, but on the question of wh...

Joanna Cherry | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

William Cash | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

Wait just a minute. The Office for the Internal Market’s provisions will be available to all four...

Joanna Cherry | 680 c212 (Link to this contribution)

To take the hon. Gentleman back to his comments a moment ago, when he lectured myself and my coll...

William Cash | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

It is a good question. In fact, I will answer it the other way: why on earth would the people of ...

William Cash | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to put it the other way around and do it my own way. Why on earth would the Scotti...

Joanna Cherry | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to answer the hon. Gentleman’s question. The Scottish National party wants Scotland to...

William Cash | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

If I may say so, not unsuccessfully.

William Cash | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to remain to be seen and to be heard. I will give an example of a company in my c...

Joanna Cherry | 680 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

William Cash | 680 cc213-4 (Link to this contribution)

Just a minute. I think the hon. and learned Lady is probably exhausting herself by her interventi...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 c214 (Link to this contribution)

Claire Hanna has withdrawn so we go straight to Richard Fuller.

Richard Fuller | 680 cc214-5 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much, Dame Rosie—that was unexpected. It is a great pleasure to serve under your c...

Drew Hendry | 680 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for allowing me to make good my deficit in not answering his question ...

Richard Fuller | 680 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have the answer—it might not be the one he thinks he is conveying—which is, there is no...

Chloe Smith | 680 c215 (Link to this contribution)

I think I can clear some of this up. Essentially my hon. Friend is right and the hon. Member for ...

Richard Fuller | 680 c216 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that clarification.

The hon. Member for Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch a...

Jonathan Edwards | 680 c216 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is highlighting the fundamental weakness of the Bill from our perspective. The...

Richard Fuller | 680 cc216-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. “So get on with it”, would be my suggestion to him and hi...

Neale Hanvey | 680 cc217-8 (Link to this contribution)

Before I consider part 4, I wish briefly to set the context of the comments that I will make.

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Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 c218 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman should resume his seat. I draw his attention to the fact that he needs ...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c218 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Dame Rosie. My preface to my comments was just to set the scene, which is what I am do...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 c218 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The hon. Gentleman cannot have conversations across the Chamber. I would be grateful if he...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c218 (Link to this contribution)

This debate is focused on part 4, in which the authority of the Competition and Markets Authority...

Patrick Grady | 680 c218 (Link to this contribution)

Is not the power grab compounded by the fact that the Government clearly intend to push this legi...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his contribution—

Jane Hunt | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Neale Hanvey | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

If I could just answer my hon. Friend, who is absolutely right. I will address the notion that th...

Jane Hunt | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, I was a bit keen. Do you agree that without the Bill—without the internal market structure...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Order. May I just point out that it is very important not to use the word “you” to another Member...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady raises a really interesting point. I wanted to get it into my remarks, and she has ...

Paul Bristow | 680 c219 (Link to this contribution)

The internal market does not just guarantee costs and prices of things—it also guarantees standar...

Neale Hanvey | 680 cc219-220 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Member for raising yet another very helpful point. The problem is not whether th...

William Cash | 680 c220 (Link to this contribution)

How does the hon. Gentleman reconcile what he has just said with what the Scottish Retail Consort...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c220 (Link to this contribution)

The way that I reconcile it is that I am talking about democracy and the hon. Member is talking a...

Kirsten Oswald | 680 c220 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether my hon. Friend agrees that the protestations that there is some kind of power su...

Neale Hanvey | 680 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for those comments, because they illustrate very well the sophistry with w...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c221 (Link to this contribution)

I want to look at the clauses. On clause 28, it is proposed that “Scotland” be left out. On claus...

Alan Brown | 680 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Lady therefore confirming that Westminster should take sovereignty over the devolved ...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely not—that is not what I am saying.

Joy Morrissey | 680 cc221-2 (Link to this contribution)

Let me clarify for you. An internal market is something that is brought together historically. Wh...

Joanna Cherry | 680 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Lady aware of the Sewel convention? If so, what is her objection to amendment 29, in ...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c222 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 29 states:

“Following legislative approval from all devolved administrations”.

Joanna Cherry | 680 c222 (Link to this contribution)

The Sewel convention, which was put on a statutory footing—before the hon. Lady was a Member of t...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I would argue that this is not an infringement of your rights or those devolved powers. This Bill...

Joy Morrissey | 680 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way—I will make some headway and then give way in a moment. When we talk about th...

Gareth Johnson | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

Is my hon. Friend aware of the decisions being made in Shetland that if the nationalists get thei...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point.

Stephen Doughty | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to break up the United Kingdom. As I have said, I am a Unionist and I want to see a...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

I thank you for your point, but I wonder if you would find it respectful for the EU to threaten t...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

I will carry on. On that point, the EU’s threat to disrupt our food exports from mainland Britain...

Kirsten Oswald | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about credibility, does the hon. Lady think it is just possible that the reason that...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

You say it was mentioned by the SNP earlier about wanting to throw off the bureaucratic chains an...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 680 c223 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Can I just remind Members on both sides of the House that these are very specific amendmen...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c224 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Sir Graham.

I will conclude by saying—

Joy Morrissey | 680 c224 (Link to this contribution)

I probably should make headway. I am trying to understand and sympathise with the amendments that...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 680 c224 (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the next speaker, because a number of new Members are participating in Committee, I...

Beth Winter | 680 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

This Tory Government leadership said during the Brexit campaign that leaving Europe would enable ...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c225 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a very strong speech and getting to the nub of this issue. She has expla...

Beth Winter | 680 c225 (Link to this contribution)

I do, and I thank my hon. Friend for his contribution.

Labour’s new clause 2 proposes a com...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c225 (Link to this contribution)

Today we are debating the creation of the OIM. I will try to keep my comments brief and not repea...

Marco Longhi | 680 c226 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that we should be pursuing a system that supports British jobs for Brit...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c226 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for his comments and agree 100% with what he said. I want to confine my co...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c226 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I will make some progress. I wish to talk about similarity with the Committee on Climat...

Kirsten Oswald | 680 c226 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know whether the hon. Lady is aware that Scotland has more stringent targets on net zero...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c227 (Link to this contribution)

That discussion would have to be done on a case-by-case basis. I do not agree that the Westminste...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c227 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to make some progress and will draw my remarks to a conclusion quickly.

The reas...

Alyn Smith | 680 cc227-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham. This Bill is difficult for the Sco...

Joy Morrissey | 680 c228 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Joy Morrissey | 680 c228 (Link to this contribution)

I’m back. To clarify that point, it is actually the European Commission that oversees the single ...

Alyn Smith | 680 c228 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for that point. In my 15 years at the European Parliament I was always stru...

Christine Jardine | 680 c228 (Link to this contribution)

Could the hon. Member clarify for me how he thinks replacing 60 years of jurisprudence will be te...

Lord Brady of Altrincham | 680 c228 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Stick to the point of the amendments.

Alyn Smith | 680 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

Sir Graham, I will try to stick to the amendments. I was hoping for a point of consensus with the...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c229 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Member suspect, as I do, that appointed to this unelected body might be more chums ...

Alyn Smith | 680 c229 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for the point, and I very strongly agree. We do not know who these people are ...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c229 (Link to this contribution)

Talking about standards, the British should be very proud of their standards in animal welfare an...

Alyn Smith | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

In which case, I do hope the hon. Lady is going to be supporting our new clause 5, which would ma...

Drew Hendry | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

Was it not just this Sunday that a UK Government Minister refused to rule out our having to impor...

Alyn Smith | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We are deeply concerned on behalf of Scotland’s farmers—and, indeed, everybody else’s...

Alan Brown | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

On that concern about the lowering of standards, the International Trade Secretary said previousl...

Alyn Smith | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. I fully agree with my hon. Friend, who has been fighting for farmers in his constituency...

Aaron Bell | 680 c230 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making a very cogent speech in favour of independence, basically. I thank h...

Alyn Smith | 680 cc230-1 (Link to this contribution)

I take the point that the hon. Gentleman makes. He accuses me of promoting the case for independe...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c231 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham. I do not think I have spoken under...

Alan Brown | 680 c231 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Alan Brown | 680 c231 (Link to this contribution)

Where is the equality in goods of a lower standard being forced on another country in the UK?

...
Alexander Stafford | 680 c231 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for making that point, but my point is that this is about equality. We...

Owen Thompson | 680 c232 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Alexander Stafford | 680 c232 (Link to this contribution)

I have just given way, so I will make some progress first. I am mid-flow.

As I was saying, ...

Kirsten Oswald | 680 c232 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman can correct me if I am wrong, but he has just suggested that the Scottish Parl...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c232 (Link to this contribution)

I will clarify that I believe this organisation brings the parties together so that we can discus...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c233 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman spoke a moment ago about families. I believe in this family as well, and I bel...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c233 (Link to this contribution)

I do believe in respect, and I do believe in recognition. I also believe in respecting the will o...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c233 (Link to this contribution)

Oh, why not? I haven’t had enough of you! More, please!

Alan Brown | 680 c233 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way once more. With all this coming together, we should bea...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c233 (Link to this contribution)

I have every faith that the Scottish people will be represented, and the Welsh and the Northern I...

Alexander Stafford | 680 cc233-4 (Link to this contribution)

I have taken a huge amount of interventions already, so I will make some progress.

This bod...

Alyn Smith | 680 c234 (Link to this contribution)

As an utterly pro-business but also pro-democracy party, we would contend that the Parliament of ...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure what word the hon. Gentleman refers to, I will be honest. There are lots of great w...

Cherilyn Mackrory | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that my hon. Friend just answered my question. I was going to ask whether it is the cas...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree, obviously. Parliament should not be getting into this.

Alexander Stafford | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way in a second. Government should not get in the way of business. Business will thri...

Owen Thompson | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

On interference, is it not the case that the Government are now interfering in devolution in Wale...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I completely refute that point. In fact, I think the Bill will actually create a better working e...

Paul Bristow | 680 c235 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that this is essentially an economic argument, not a political argument...

Alexander Stafford | 680 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree—this is an economic thing. In fact, I am about to talk about clause 38, which ...

Christine Jardine | 680 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way, but how does he explain that those of us who are not n...

Alexander Stafford | 680 c236 (Link to this contribution)

I say sorry that those people are falling into nationalist arguments and giving succour to the in...

Alexander Stafford | 680 cc236-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have already given way once, so I will make progress.

The Bill is not a Westminster power...

Nadia Whittome | 680 cc237-8 (Link to this contribution)

It is pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham, and to speak to new clause 2, which ...

Julie Marson | 680 cc238-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham

This is a good Bill, and a ne...

Julie Marson | 680 c239 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way. We have heard so many canards in the Chamber this afternoon, it is begin...

Paul Bristow | 680 c239 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham.

The most important element o...

James Davies | 680 cc239-240 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is giving a very strong argument as to why this legislation is so important. Does ...

Paul Bristow | 680 c240 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with the businessman in my hon. Friend’s constituency. I think it is the Feder...

Jonathan Edwards | 680 c240 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is making some points on which we might be able to agree. The issue at hand is...

Paul Bristow | 680 cc240-1 (Link to this contribution)

I have heard the arguments, as have Ministers, I am sure. Points have been made about the interna...

Wendy Chamberlain | 680 cc241-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham.

I rise to speak to amendment...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 680 c242 (Link to this contribution)

It is an honour to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham.

I must say at the outset that...

Carla Lockhart | 680 c244 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that for business in Northern Ireland, free and unfettered access to Gr...

Ian Jnr Paisley | 680 cc244-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a vital point, one that I think is shared by Members across the House who re...

Owen Thompson | 680 cc248-9 (Link to this contribution)

There are many things wrong with the Bill. Today, we are focused on the creation of yet another u...

Alyn Smith | 680 c249 (Link to this contribution)

I commend my hon. Friend on a powerful speech. Does he share my concern that as well as the gener...

Owen Thompson | 680 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. Hon. Members could be forgiven for thinking that the Bill was being rushed through withou...

Wera Hobhouse | 680 cc250-1 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to Liberal Democrat amendment 21, new clause 1 and new clause 4. It will come as ...

Christine Jardine | 680 cc251-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham. Like my hon. Friend the Member for...

Alyn Smith | 680 c252 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the hon. Lady on her Unionism and respect it absolutely. Edinburgh West is a place I kn...

Christine Jardine | 680 cc252-3 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I support the devolution amendment, and yes I believe, as I will come on to explain, that th...

Tim Farron | 680 cc253-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great honour to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Graham, and to follow the speech of my...

Richard Fuller | 680 c255 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, I will pick up on something that the hon. Gentleman has said. Many speakers on the Oppo...

Tim Farron | 680 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. We should be aware that, on top of the ...

Jim Shannon | 680 cc256-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Westmorland and Lonsdale (Tim Farron). Alth...

Lucy Powell | 680 cc259-261 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I rise to speak to the amendments ta...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c261 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right to draw attention to those comments by a very honourable man, ...

Lucy Powell | 680 cc261-2 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely do. My hon. Friend has made some powerful points today about the disrespectful way i...

Jonathan Edwards | 680 c262 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the vast majority of new clause 2, but this is the one point that really worries me,...

Lucy Powell | 680 cc262-3 (Link to this contribution)

This might be where we differ, as I was going to come on to say, because we believe that the ulti...

Paul Scully | 680 cc263-4 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I would like to thank all Members wh...

Tim Farron | 680 c264 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that any of us doubt the integrity of the people on the board or on that body. We ...

Paul Scully | 680 cc265-6 (Link to this contribution)

I take the hon. Gentleman’s point, but prior to his contribution, other Members did raise the poi...

Jonathan Edwards | 680 c266 (Link to this contribution)

If the office for the internal market writes a report that says, for instance, that a regulation ...

Paul Scully | 680 cc266-8 (Link to this contribution)

As I say, the office will put forward non-binding reports to each devolved Parliament, but then t...

Stephen Doughty | 680 c268 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister is doing his best job to front this up and to give some of the detail that the Prime...

Paul Scully | 680 cc268-9 (Link to this contribution)

That is why I am going through the clauses and amendments at Committee stage to keep the focus on...

Drew Hendry | 680 cc269-270 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Evans, it is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship. I must admit I am still reeling some...

Nigel Evans | 680 c270 (Link to this contribution)

Will all non-Front Benchers leave the Chamber behind me, please, and then join the queue in Westm...

Christopher Chope | 680 c278 (Link to this contribution)

On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Can you help Back Benchers, please? A number of Back B...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 680 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point. Perhaps I have a better view of the Chamber than he has ...

Christopher Chope | 680 c278 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 680 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure that there can be anything further to that point of order, but out of courtesy and ...

Christopher Chope | 680 c278 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker.

First, there was an attempt physically to stop ...

Christopher Chope | 680 c279 (Link to this contribution)

There are about a dozen Government Whips here—

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 680 c279 (Link to this contribution)

Order. How many people with particular duties in the House there are sitting in the Chamber is no...

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