Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill

Today is obviously the anniversary of 9/11, a devastating terrorist attack that happened on the s...

The Minister said a few moments ago that it will be for the prosecution to show that a person doe...

I disagree with the right hon. Gentleman. If a person produces a reasonable defence, as it would ...

I do not want to digress too much but, under those circumstances, at which point could a person l...

The decision to deprive a person of their British citizenship would not be affected by this at al...

The Minister is obviously right. We have to deal with the issue of foreign fighters, and the best...

What I can say is that if a British citizen goes to a designated area and commits an offence, it ...

As the Minister says, we already have quite a lot of offences with extraterritorial jurisdiction,...

We have 400 people in this country who have returned from activity in hotspots, many of whom we b...

Can the Minister say where else in British law it is an offence to be located somewhere, rather t...

I would have to speculate; I am not a barrister or lawyer, so I dare not venture down that road. ...

Because they have done something wrong.

The question was, is there anywhere else in law where going somewhere becomes the offence? There ...

I congratulate the Minister and the Government for—although belatedly—bringing in this power, for...

I am happy to write to the hon. Gentleman with a specific number, if we trawl through the whole l...

My right hon. Friend and I have had quite a lot of discussions on this issue. I have also had dis...

My hon. Friend knows that making people stateless is a hefty measure. From our legal advice, we c...

Will the Minister allow me one further point? I had referred to the international convention, art...

As ever, my hon. Friend makes an articulate and knowledgeable point. My disagreement is that, no ...

The Minister will know that there are particular issues around flags and their association with p...

I know that throughout the passage of the Bill we spent days with the PSNI. On the point about th...

I am a little puzzled. The Government have conceded that clause 3, as originally drafted, was imp...

The intention behind the three clicks provision was an ambition to ensure proportionality and pro...

I am not satisfied with that explanation, because the reasonable excuse defence is only there for...

The hon. Member for Torfaen is absolutely right; it is set out quite clearly in the 2000 Act. The...

I am grateful to the Minister for setting out the issue of the designated area offence.

Bef...

I hear what the hon. Gentleman says about Prevent, and welcome his warm support for its principle...

I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I know the work that he did in th...

I will speak about new clause 2 and the context in which it has been brought forward. The first r...

Does my hon. Friend agree that one of the problems facing police and prosecutors when people come...

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. He puts what I was going to say much more eloquently...

My hon. Friend is explaining to the House how terrible the attack in Salisbury has been. Does she...

I agree that it is important in any part of police work that, where appropriate, information is s...

Does my hon. Friend agree that our constituents would expect us to be able to stop people at the ...

I thank my hon. Friend for a great intervention. He is right that for many of our constituents, i...

To continue on that theme, does my hon. Friend agree that the security elements of the White Pape...

I agree. Terrorism is a global threat. It affects us in this country, but, as we remember on 11 S...

It was said earlier from a sedentary position, “Well, that’s what the EU is for”. Does my hon. Fr...

I agree absolutely.

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I give way to the hon. Gentleman.

I am happy for the hon. Lady to expand on her point before she gives way—I hope—again.

The hon. Gentleman looked so keen to get to his feet.

It is absolutely right that we tackle...

I am grateful to the hon. Lady for continually giving way as it allows us to develop some of the ...

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question, although it is one for the Minister, rather than me....

The hon. Lady is being very generous with taking interventions. She said a moment ago that leavin...

I disagree with the hon. and learned Lady. Each country has a duty to protect its citizens. She s...

Can the hon. Lady name any third country that has the same access to information-trading within t...

I am afraid that—[Interruption.]

It may be—I do not say this with any acrimony—that the hon. and learned Member for Edinburgh Sout...

Name a country that has the same access.

I thank my right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr Hayes) for his int...

There is not a country that has left the EU yet. We are that test case. The reality is that the E...

Again, I agree profoundly.

The Bill is the result of a thorough review carried out by not j...

I echo the comments made by both the Minister and the hon. Member for Torfaen (Nick Thomas-Symond...

The hon. Gentleman makes an honest and powerful point about Safaa Boular, whom he met. Terrorists...

Order. Just to help: the Minister will obviously want to come back at the end of the debate, and ...

I apologise, Mr Deputy Speaker.

No problem.

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I fully accept the central point that the Minister is making, but h...

Across the House, we share a determination to tackle terrorism. Seventeen years ago today, I was ...

There are obviously concerns about new clause 2 that we will have to consider in the other place;...

I am just going by what the Minister has tabled today.

David Anderson, the former independe...

The right hon. Gentleman makes the same mistake that the SNP Front-Bench team made. Contrary to n...

I am grateful to the Minister for trying to clarify the situation, but I will let others in the H...

I rise to speak strongly in favour of new clause 2, not least because I have spent the past nine ...

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

I will in just a moment. I very much hope that this legislation will get on to the statute book, ...

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I will give way to the hon. and learned Lady, and I hope she will answer to her constituents and ...

I would just very gently say to the hon. Gentleman that it ill behoves him to question the motive...

I cannot see any convincing argument for doing so. If the hon. and learned Lady wanted to make on...

On a point of order, Sir Lindsay.

A point of order? Oh, for goodness’—

Is it really in order for this hon. Member to impugn my motives and suggest that I want to make t...

I know that would not be the case with the hon. and learned Lady, and I am sure that was not the ...

I think what we are hearing today is the real lack of scrutiny that the Scottish National party h...

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No, I am not giving way. Sit down. Sit down. After that absurd non-point of order, I am not going...

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I will of course give way to the right hon. Member for Kingston and Surbiton.

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman and he should know that I have a lot of respect for him. Ther...

I am of course aware of David Anderson’s views, and I am afraid I simply do not agree with him. W...

I was listening to the hon. Gentleman’s dulcet tones. He articulates the challenge with security....

I am very grateful to the Minister for the many telephone conversations that we have had during t...

Of course we listen to and respect current and former reviewers of terrorism. Lord Carlile, the f...

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I am sorry, but I want to press on, because I want to get to the final point and address Labour’s...

I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate a delay in the Aye Lobby.

I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 3—Access to a solicito...

New clause 1 would make our continued participation in the European arrest warrant a negotiating ...

I completely agree with what my hon. Friend has said, and I support the new clause. Does he share...

I entirely agree. The Brexit Secretary’s previous record is of real concern, and it is certainly ...

We are not seeking to send signals this evening; we are seeking to create an Act, and inserting t...

With great respect to the hon. Gentleman, his argument seems to be circular. He will not vote for...

I have a great deal of respect for the hon. Gentleman, and I understand the substance of where he...

As the hon. Gentleman knows, I have a great deal of respect for the work he does as Chair of the ...

I know that the Security Minister needs no reminding of the sensitivity of this matter. Does my h...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. He always speaks eloquently when he speaks...

I am interested in the shadow Minister’s suggestion. Would he have any concerns about whether suf...

I am not aware of an area of law where there is currently a shortage of lawyers, but perhaps the ...

I do not want to detain the House for long, but having served as a member of the Bill Committee I...

I promise to keep my remarks short. Two important matters have been raised, and I take on board t...

It is a great pleasure to follow the irrepressible Chair of the Justice Committee, of which I am ...

I rise partly because I have been encouraged by the speech made by the Chair of the Select Commit...

I will start if I may by addressing the amendments in this group. First, let me turn to the Anti-...

I accept that point. Indeed, I set it out in my speech. Our concern is specifically in relation t...

I agree. We have had the power regarding the Northern Ireland border, or any other border, since ...

May I take the Minister back to the point about spies from other countries and people from other ...

I can clarify briefly. If we had a line of reporting that said, in a certain week, that there was...

On the point about consultation with a lawyer, I have offered a very practical solution. Will the...

I know that the hon. Gentleman absolutely means the best in making his recommendation. I certainl...

There is really no fundamental disagreement on the objective that the Minister is trying to achie...

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for the tone of his comments. I am happy to give him as much ...

If what the Government seek to achieve is no different from new clause 1, the Minister should jus...

I would say to them and to anyone else that the first duty of a Government is security, and it is...

I certainly will not be withdrawing my new clause. Continued participation in the European arrest...

I would be interested to know whether the hon. Gentleman could name a single Labour Minister who,...

I do not find that explanation convincing in any sense.

Question put, That the clause be re...

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

On 22 May last year, I was woken f...

I am grateful for the approach that the Minister and the Secretary of State have taken, and for t...

The hon. Gentleman made that point in Committee. I was due to meet him last week. Unfortunately, ...

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The hon. Gentleman’s points are well made but, with respect to him, I need to draw to a close.