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Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 16 July 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Mel Stride. The answering member was Peter Dowd.
Report stage. New clause 1 debated and withdrawn. New clause 11 negatived on division (289 to 316). New clause 13 negatived on division (291 to 316). New clause 16 negatived on division (36 to 316). New clause 36 agreed to on division (305 to 302). New clause 37 agreed to. Amendments made. Amendment 21 negatived on division (283 to 317). Amendment 73 agreed to on division (303 to 300). Third reading. Agreed to on division (318 to 285). Bill passed.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

645 cc55-191 

Session

2017-19

Department

Treasury

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill 2017-19
Monday, 20 November 2017
Bills
House of Commons
The Taxation (Cross-border Trade) Bill
Friday, 6 July 2018
Research briefings

Proceeding contributions

Anna Soubry | 645 c56 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 645 cc56-79 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 2—EU VAT area and pre-...


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Anna Soubry | 645 cc79-81 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak in support of new clause 1 and new clause 12, and I shall also seek to speak brie...

Anna Soubry | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

I will take my hon. Friend’s intervention in a moment, but not yet.

I say that very gently ...

Edward Leigh | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Anna Soubry | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

I will take my hon. Friend’s intervention in a moment.

It was Margaret Thatcher who, as a p...

Edward Leigh | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

I knew Margaret Thatcher; I worked for Margaret Thatcher. My right hon. Friend ain’t no Margaret ...

Anna Soubry | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

I do not pretend to be able to walk in Margaret Thatcher’s boots, but I have read her speeches ab...

Desmond Swayne | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c80 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Charlie Elphicke | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Anna Soubry | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

In a moment.

The reality, which is faced in the White Paper, is that if we do not deliver f...

Charlie Elphicke | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Anna Soubry | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for Loughborough and then I will come down the...

Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the intervention on my right hon. Friend made by our hon. Friend the Member for Gainsbor...

Anna Soubry | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Here is a surprise: I completely agree with my right hon. Friend.

Charlie Elphicke | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Anna Soubry | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I said that I would go down the row first. In a moment gents; hang on.

Charlie Elphicke | 645 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I have been listening with great interest to my right hon. Friend’s speech. I am a former remaine...

Anna Soubry | 645 cc82-3 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to be rude to my hon. Friend, but that really is the stuff of madness. Of course we...

Desmond Swayne | 645 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I have a very successful manufacturer in my constituency abiding by the very disciplines that my ...

Anna Soubry | 645 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I will take another intervention.

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c83 (Link to this contribution)

I think the point that my right hon. Friend did not want to take is that there are plenty of busi...

Anna Soubry | 645 cc83-4 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say to my hon. Friend that that is absolute codswallop. When I went to Toyota, we were ...

Vicky Ford | 645 c84 (Link to this contribution)

I want to go back to the point about enforcing our border. Some people say that, if we were tradi...

Anna Soubry | 645 c84 (Link to this contribution)

That was a very long but very good intervention.

Stephen Doughty | 645 c84 (Link to this contribution)

I have heard exactly the same points from businesses in my community. I have heard the same point...

Anna Soubry | 645 c84 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. I say to my Government that they are in grave danger of not just losing the p...

Anna Soubry | 645 c85 (Link to this contribution)

For the record, that was said by my hon. Friend the Member for Huntingdon (Mr Djanogly). If anyon...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 645 c85 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before the right hon. Lady returns to the substance of her remarks, I just point out to he...

Anna Soubry | 645 c85 (Link to this contribution)

By remarkable coincidence, Madam Deputy Speaker, I am coming to the conclusion of my remarks. I w...

Dominic Grieve | 645 c85 (Link to this contribution)

Is not one of the features of these two amendments the fact that they would not do what their pro...

Anna Soubry | 645 c86 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my right hon. and learned Friend. Members on the Government Front Bench, ...

Stephen Doughty | 645 c86 (Link to this contribution)

What has really been going on here is that some of these extreme individuals have been threatenin...

Anna Soubry | 645 c86 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. It is disgraceful, because this White Paper is a genuine ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c86 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that, if the Government were guaranteed the support of the Labour...

Anna Soubry | 645 cc86-7 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend is right, as ever.

The truth is that both main political p...

Chris Leslie | 645 c87 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the right hon. Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry) for the passion with which she has spo...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 645 c88 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman misunderstands amendment 73. One of the other amendments, which the Government...

Chris Leslie | 645 c88 (Link to this contribution)

We have got the hon. Gentleman’s measure now. He used to be an entertaining curiosity, but no lon...

Jonathan Djanogly | 645 c88 (Link to this contribution)

Are we not seeing here an insertion of further red lines when we have enough of them already?

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Chris Leslie | 645 c88 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. It would be sensible of the Government to read the runes and start thinking about where ...

Heidi Allen | 645 c88 (Link to this contribution)

I would just like to reflect on how refreshing it is—it is probably what the majority of the coun...

Chris Leslie | 645 c89 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I will certainly want to vote against amendment 73, but my hon. Friends will make their own...

Stephen Doughty | 645 c89 (Link to this contribution)

It is very clear, as my hon. Friend says, who those Members are working with and what their agend...

Chris Leslie | 645 c89 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, indeed.

It is helpful if we view the two Bills we are considering today and tomorrow a...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c89 (Link to this contribution)

That is not actually correct. It is quite common in a free trade agreement to have what is known ...

Chris Leslie | 645 c89 (Link to this contribution)

There are certain manufactured goods where they have that, but across the piece of a whole econom...

Vicky Ford | 645 c90 (Link to this contribution)

On the rules of origin, the hon. Gentleman may wish to read the pan-Euro-Mediterranean convention...

Chris Leslie | 645 c90 (Link to this contribution)

My experience is very different in terms of the information I have. If we look across the range o...

Hilary Benn | 645 c90 (Link to this contribution)

On the important issue of rules of origin, which my hon. Friend has just raised, we have heard th...

Chris Leslie | 645 cc90-1 (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. Presumably the Government think they can negotiate on that between the UK and the EU bil...

Wera Hobhouse | 645 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that it is time we listen to the people who run businesses, rat...

Chris Leslie | 645 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, and the problem we have had is that ideology and populism have been running this country for...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 645 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It will be obvious to the House that a great many people want to speak. We have three hour...

David Davis | 645 cc91-2 (Link to this contribution)

For the convenience of members of the Gallery, I should start by saying that this is not a resign...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c92 (Link to this contribution)

One of the most remarkable features of the last 20 years has been the globalised economy and the ...

David Davis | 645 c92 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend was being uncharacteristically inattentive, because that is exac...

John Redwood | 645 c93 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

David Davis | 645 c93 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but I will have to constrain interventions because of the time limit.

John Redwood | 645 c93 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend confirm that many successful manufacturing businesses in Britain today ...

David Davis | 645 cc93-4 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is exactly right. It is an issue that I will return to in a second, but befo...

Anna Soubry | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

David Davis | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not give way.

I went back last year to look at it again, and yes it was 15-year-...

Kevin Hollinrake | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

David Davis | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

No, if my hon. Friend will forgive me. I am short of time.

The simple truth is they operate...

Anna Soubry | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

David Davis | 645 c94 (Link to this contribution)

No, if my right hon. Friend will forgive me.

The issues that remain at the border will depe...

Joanna Cherry | 645 c95 (Link to this contribution)

If what the right hon. Gentleman says about the border is so, why was he part of a Government tha...

David Davis | 645 c95 (Link to this contribution)

They did not agree to the backstop; they agreed to the joint report that talked about full alignm...

Yvette Cooper | 645 cc95-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is interesting to follow the former Brexit Secretary and to reflect on the speech he has just ...

Anna Soubry | 645 c96 (Link to this contribution)

Did the right hon. Lady notice that there was no detail about the reality of the America-Canada b...

Yvette Cooper | 645 c96 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with the right hon. Lady. The former Brexit Secretary seems to be arguing that...

Marcus Fysh | 645 c96 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give some consideration to supporting our new clause 36, which will beco...

Yvette Cooper | 645 cc96-7 (Link to this contribution)

Let me just deal with new clause 36. If the Government are saying that they will accept it, I do ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

That phrase in the White Paper describes a perfectly sensible arrangement. If we adopt the new cl...

Yvette Cooper | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

I think that the right hon. and learned Gentleman is right on two counts. First, I think that thi...

Marcus Fysh | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Yvette Cooper | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

No, I will not, because there is a time limit and I want to finish my speech early so that others...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

Why would any company bother to carry out expensive rules of origin checks if paying the tariff, ...

Yvette Cooper | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

That is really flipped logic. The hon. Gentleman is effectively saying, “They do not have to do t...

David Davis | 645 c97 (Link to this contribution)

The logic is actually very simple. Empirical evidence shows that in international trade, companie...

Yvette Cooper | 645 cc97-8 (Link to this contribution)

I would caution the right hon. Gentleman against dismissing the rules of origin checks. There is ...

Wera Hobhouse | 645 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Will the right hon. Lady give way?

Yvette Cooper | 645 c98 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way once more, but I am conscious of the time.

Wera Hobhouse | 645 c98 (Link to this contribution)

Surely rules of origin checks are about not only tariffs, but environmental protection, for examp...

Yvette Cooper | 645 cc98-9 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is right. We need to address the wider issues relating to friction at the border as...

John Bercow | 645 c99 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The right hon. and learned Member for Rushcliffe (Mr Clarke) will be the last Member to sp...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 cc99-100 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Speaker, I am grateful to you for calling me. You may be disbelieving, but I assure you that I...

James Cartlidge | 645 c101 (Link to this contribution)

The key concern for me is that we seem to be separating EU trade and non-EU trade, but is it not ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c101 (Link to this contribution)

I agree and that is why I tabled, with my right hon. Friend the Member for Broxtowe (Anna Soubry)...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot give way.

Some people want us to give up the hated European rules on animal welfar...

John Bercow | 645 c102 (Link to this contribution)

Order. The new time limit will have to be no more than eight minutes.

John Bercow | 645 c102 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, and we are immensely grateful.

Tom Brake | 645 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the penny is now dropping among those who inflicted the EU referendum and the subsequ...

Tom Brake | 645 c103 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry—the hon. Gentleman is present. He was more honest. I hope that he does not feel that I...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c103 (Link to this contribution)

Unlike probably the vast majority of hon. and right hon. Members, I actually used to work in manu...

Tom Brake | 645 c103 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman might be surprised to hear that I also worked in business before I came into P...

Tom Brake | 645 cc103-4 (Link to this contribution)

Malaysia, not China.

6.45 pm

I also want to talk about new clauses 7, 8 and 9. New cl...

Priti Patel | 645 cc104-5 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 36, tabled in my name and those of other hon. and right hon. Member...

Paul Masterton | 645 c105 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend confirm whether it is her view that new clause 36 conflicts or is in li...

Priti Patel | 645 c105 (Link to this contribution)

I just made the point that it was disappointing that the principle of reciprocity was not in the ...

John Bercow | 645 c105 (Link to this contribution)

Has the right hon. Lady completed her speech?

John Bercow | 645 c105 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Lady used commendable brevity, upon which I congratulate her.

Ian Murray | 645 cc105-6 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great privilege to follow the right hon. Member for Witham (Priti Patel). We sit on the S...

Ian Murray | 645 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give way to the right hon. Gentleman, given that I mentioned him.

David Davis | 645 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I rise just to tell the hon. Gentleman that nearly everything he just said in that sentence is un...

Ian Murray | 645 c106 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear that he would have resigned regardless, but he must surely have some regre...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 645 c106 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman really suggesting that the 163 independent members of the WTO are somehow t...

Ian Murray | 645 cc107-8 (Link to this contribution)

I will tell the hon. Gentleman who is teetering on the cliff edge: the 10,000 or 12,000 people in...

Laurence Robertson | 645 c108 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clause 37, which is in my name and those of my hon and right hon. Friends....

Ian Jnr Paisley | 645 c108 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman reiterate the point that new clause 37 simply underlines and reaffirms wh...

Laurence Robertson | 645 cc108-9 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I completely agree with the hon. Gentleman, although I hope we always do have a Unionis...

Caroline Lucas | 645 cc109-110 (Link to this contribution)

I support all those who have been arguing for continued membership of the customs union, and ther...

Marcus Fysh | 645 c110 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes an important point about the value of trade defences in our armoury. Would sh...

Caroline Lucas | 645 c111 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I do not share the hon. Gentleman’s faith in our own Government continuing to ke...

Greg Hands | 645 cc111-2 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start by saying that I agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and Howd...

Greg Hands | 645 c112 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to carry on and explore this point. Because Turkey is not subject to that agreement, a...

Greg Hands | 645 cc112-3 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am not giving way as I am going to explore my points in the available time.

The lesso...

Jonathan Djanogly | 645 c113 (Link to this contribution)

Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Greg Hands | 645 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to use my three remaining minutes.

The fourth area—again, it is remarkable that ...

Nicholas Dakin | 645 cc113-5 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for the fact that I had to attend a Statutory Instrument Committee, but I was present...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 645 cc114-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to amendment 73, tabled in my name and the names of my right hon. and hon. Friend...

Chris Leslie | 645 c116 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 645 c116 (Link to this contribution)

I will; I would enjoy continuing my speech so please intervene.

Chris Leslie | 645 c116 (Link to this contribution)

Did the hon. Gentleman notice that, in March 2016, the European Union agreed, on the so-called ta...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 645 cc116-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but that must have passed me by. I know that, to get around the difficulties that wer...

John Bercow | 645 c117 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Gentleman completed his oration?

John Bercow | 645 c117 (Link to this contribution)

He has. We are grateful to him.

Sammy Wilson | 645 cc117-8 (Link to this contribution)

When we had the referendum result, and given the bitterness that existed during the referendum, I...

Baroness Hoey | 645 c118 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is quite right; there seem to be an awful lot of people who do not reall...

Sammy Wilson | 645 c118 (Link to this contribution)

That is the whole point of new clause 37. First, it would deliver on the promises made by the Gov...

Karin Smyth | 645 c118 (Link to this contribution)

The right hon. Gentleman is of course right that the constitutional status of Northern Ireland ha...

Sammy Wilson | 645 c119 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point that I am making—that this red herring has been thrown into the debate to try t...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 cc119-120 (Link to this contribution)

I am very pleased to follow the right hon. Member for East Antrim (Sammy Wilson), who has put on ...

Kevin Hollinrake | 645 c120 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making some very good points. I certainly do not argue that we should be member...

John Bercow | 645 c120 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am immensely grateful. May I encourage the hon. Member for Harwich and North Essex (Sir ...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 cc120-1 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. Just to answer my hon. Friend’s point, I think that we have to be practica...

Dominic Grieve | 645 c121 (Link to this contribution)

No, it is because they are useless.

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c121 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. and learned Friend, who seems to be becoming a remainer again, judging from his art...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c121 (Link to this contribution)

No, that is what he said. He said that we will have to rethink Brexit completely if we cannot get...

Bernard Jenkin | 645 c121 (Link to this contribution)

I end on this one point, Mr Speaker. We have heard a lot about 40 MPs having an excessive amount ...

John Bercow | 645 c121 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you. The time limit will have to be reduced, with immediate effect, to five minutes.

Helen Goodman | 645 cc121-2 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to speak to new clause 11 and against amendment 73.

Last week, we had a debate in We...

Dominic Grieve | 645 cc122-3 (Link to this contribution)

There is one matter on which I agree with my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and How...

Matt Western | 645 cc123-4 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clauses 1, 11 and 12, and very much in support of a customs union.

I...

Hilary Benn | 645 c124 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend speaks with great experience on these matters. Does he agree that small businesses...

Matt Western | 645 cc124-5 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is right that SMEs, particularly in the component supply chain, are the most...

Justine Greening | 645 cc125-6 (Link to this contribution)

I should say first that I recognise the importance of the Bill and why it is necessary if we are ...

John Bercow | 645 c126 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Several Members, all on the same side of the House, wish to speak. I suggest that the time...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 645 cc126-7 (Link to this contribution)

May I first thank my right hon. Friend the Member for Putney (Justine Greening) for making what I...

Chris Leslie | 645 c127 (Link to this contribution)

I do not quite see how the hon. Gentleman can say that that is compatible with the Government’s p...

Jacob Rees-Mogg | 645 cc127-8 (Link to this contribution)

I can merely appeal to how this was set out by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for En...

John Bercow | 645 c128 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I think that three minutes will now suffice.

Jonathan Djanogly | 645 cc128-9 (Link to this contribution)

Let me start by saying that, to my mind, the European Research Group’s amendments are clearly aim...

John Bercow | 645 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am extremely obliged to the hon. Gentleman, to whom I could always listen at length, but...

Kevin Hollinrake | 645 c129 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak against new clause 1, which my right hon. Friend the Member for Broxtowe (Anna So...

John Bercow | 645 c129 (Link to this contribution)

Two minutes are preferable to three.

Charlie Elphicke | 645 c130 (Link to this contribution)

In the referendum campaign, the Home Office told my constituents that the jungle would move from ...

Vicky Ford | 645 cc130-1 (Link to this contribution)

We are leaving the EU and that means that we need to have a new relationship with the single mark...

Jack Brereton | 645 c131 (Link to this contribution)

I want to focus on trade remedies. This is particularly important for the ceramic sector in my co...

Kirsty Blackman | 645 cc131-4 (Link to this contribution)

Given that there may not be a Third Reading, I will start very briefly with some thank yous. I wo...

Peter Dowd | 645 cc133-6 (Link to this contribution)

I read the White Paper on the train home on Thursday, if only out of a sense of morbid curiosity,...

John Bercow | 645 c135 (Link to this contribution)

I call the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, Mel Stride, but, as I do so, I must advise the Ho...

Mel Stride | 645 cc135-7 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Speaker, that is quite an introduction; thank you most graciously for your lovely comments—you...

Paul Farrelly | 645 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I wish the right hon. Gentleman—my old friend, who was my former economics tutorial partner at un...

Mel Stride | 645 c137 (Link to this contribution)

Services are most certainly not less important than goods; they make up about 80% of the economy ...

Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 645 c137 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his wedding anniversary. He has mentioned the facilitated ...

Mel Stride | 645 cc137-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. and learned Friend for that intervention. I have very little time, but I wi...

Mel Stride | 645 c138 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way, no. [Hon. Members: “Give way!”] I have a lot to cover, and I will not give w...

Amber Rudd | 645 c138 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend will be aware that there is some concern on this side of the House regarding...

Mel Stride | 645 cc138-9 (Link to this contribution)

The negotiating strategy of the UK Government is to seek reciprocity in this respect, and that is...

John Bercow | 645 c139 (Link to this contribution)

For one sentence, I call Anna Soubry.

Anna Soubry | 645 cc139-140 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 36 and amendment 73 are designed not to help the White Paper, but to wreck it. I am go...

John Bercow | 645 c152 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I am sure that this matter is of the greatest possible interest to the right hon. Member f...

John Bercow | 645 c160 (Link to this contribution)

I informed the House earlier—which may have been of interest to those present, and with the encou...

John Bercow | 645 c160 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Colleagues will understand me if I say that I think there might be some evidence of what I...

John Bercow | 645 c160 (Link to this contribution)

Order. It is very good of the right hon. Gentleman, but I think that the Government had previousl...

Mel Stride | 645 c160 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. The instincts on our side are often divided, but not on this matter. We ar...

John Bercow | 645 c160 (Link to this contribution)

Well, an absence of Tellers will suffice to achieve the objective of the Minister. Division off.<...

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