Mental Health Units (Use of Force) Bill

rose—

On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Member for Croydon North (Mr Re...

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his point of order, which is a source of some concern to ...

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I have sympathy for what the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) said,...

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on the progress of the Bill, which I hasten to say that I suppo...

The hon. Gentleman raises an important point, and I look forward to the comments of the Under-Sec...

Does the hon. Gentleman share my view that whether the measure gets into the Bill or not, we need...

I absolutely agree. The Bill sets up a process and attempts to change the culture of the services...

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his indication of support for these amendments. When the ...

As the Minister is present, it is probably best to allow her to speak for herself, rather than fo...

I tabled these amendments on the basis of a sad, current constituency case involving the parents ...

I hear what the hon. Gentleman is saying, but the point remains: if we take measures to deal with...

I wonder whether the hon. Gentleman has any thoughts on amendment 113, which I do not think will ...

I agree with the sentiment, but I do not think that the Bill should be too prescriptive. It is fo...

May I start by commending the hon. Member for Croydon North (Mr Reed), who is an excellent Member...

My hon. Friend is perhaps one of the most passionate Members about defending and championing the ...

I am sure we do, which is why I have consulted my local trust, Bradford District Care NHS Foundat...

This is great fun. I come back to the point that this is a private Member’s Bill and the Governme...

I am grateful to the Minister for that. I appreciate that we are in a strange situation in which ...

I do not think that we are wasting our time when we table amendments. Contrary to what my hon. Fr...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right, but he is being slightly naive in thinking that we will get s...

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. In my experience both from my time as a Minis...

The right hon. Gentleman certainly knows more about this subject than I do, and probably more tha...

I am listening with some interest to my hon. Friend’s speech. The purpose of his amendments, as h...

I understand the points that my hon. Friend makes, and I will come on to some of them later on, a...

When one looks at the drafting of clause 1 (6), references to the use of force are to

“the ...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He has made the point that I was literally just about to make...

Surely the point about an unconscious bias is that it is unconscious. If we do not collect the da...

I understand the hon. Gentleman’s point and I am not totally unsympathetic towards it. My fear is...

But nobody, in this Bill or elsewhere, is advocating proportionality in the way in which restrain...

The hon. Gentleman’s motives are entirely honourable and decent, and I support them 100%. My fear...

My hon. Friend is making an excellent point. Is it not also the case that substance and drug abus...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right to draw that comparison. It goes to show that well-meaning ini...

I too am obviously a great fan of Prince Philip. In talking about his fears, my hon. Friend is, w...

I cannot accept that at all, Madam Deputy Speaker—it is a delight to see you in the Chair. My ame...

As always, my hon. Friend is making an excellent point. In his extensive research, has he been ab...

I am afraid I cannot answer my hon. Friend’s question. I do not know. The Minister was absolutely...

My hon. Friend is making a fascinating speech that seems to be very well researched. Given that h...

My hon. Friend may well be right; I do not know. I have not been able to find any evidence for th...

My hon. Friend has referred to the definition of “ethics” and “ethical”. Paragraph (k), to which ...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. I do not know the answer to that—who knows? It is a mystery to...

I suspect that the hon. Gentleman and I agree that it is really important to protect the individu...

Absolutely I do—I am not sure that anyone would disagree with that. The issue is how we best ensu...

I advise my hon. Friend that the guidance we will issue on the Bill will be subject to consultati...

I am grateful to the Minister. As I suggested, the Government have the authority to put these thi...

I certainly agree with my hon. Friend about the necessity of putting the two amendments in the Bi...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend. If the Minister wishes to intervene, I will not stop her.

I am happy to give some clarification on the Government’s position on this issue. When I discusse...

There you go, Madam Deputy Speaker. What can you say? The civil service script has been brandishe...

Looking at the amendments on what should be in the training, has my hon. Friend had a chance to l...

The answer to my hon. Friend’s question is yes—I have looked at his amendment and agree with it. ...

Is it not extraordinary that the list to which my hon. Friend refers makes no reference to whethe...

Again my hon. Friend is absolutely right. One could argue that that is important and should be lo...

I think we have all encountered constituency cases in which people suffering from mental illnesse...

That is a very good point. I had not mentioned that people might be moved from one institution to...

I am sorry to intervene on the hon. Gentleman—I know that he is trying to be as brief and succinc...

As I said at the start, I genuinely appreciate the constructive way in which the hon. Gentleman h...

My hon. Friend sets out the three options very clearly, and if we went for the last of them that ...

My hon. Friend is right. The Minister is doing her best; she does not decide the Government’s bur...

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way. It is always a pleasure to have an extended opportunity to...

I understand the point that my hon. Friend is making. Equally, I am not keen on unnecessarily cri...

I thank my hon. Friend for giving way again. He gave the example of the pilot schemes, and body-w...

I made it clear that I support and encourage the use of such cameras, but there may be occasions ...

I completely with agree with my hon. Friend’s points. It was precisely to address such concerns t...

I am grateful to the Minister for that, and I am sure that police officers will be grateful, too....

Is there any evidence to suggest that the police will not want to protect themselves by taking bo...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. The evidence is that police officers are the biggest supporter...

I look forward to hearing the Minister address that point because I believe that she has proposal...

I am very grateful for that intervention, and I also very much welcome them and salute them for e...

I am conscious of the fact that the hon. Gentleman has been speaking for two hours. He is raising...

I hear what the right hon. Gentleman says, but clearly he has not heard what I have said. The Bil...

Although I agree with the hon. Gentleman that I would like to see changes, I am perfectly happy t...

We have been around that issue, so I do not intend to revisit it again. The fundamental amendment...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right not to fall foul of the scaremongering, because we are fortuna...

The Bill will definitely conclude its Report stage at some point, but if it does not pass today, ...

rose—

I hope that the Minister is going to make us all happy.

My hon. Friend is again mischaracterising the Government’s position. Our position is that the ame...

Perhaps when the Minister responds to the debate she can tell us which amendments the Government ...

Members have had six months to table amendments, so perhaps the hon. Gentleman could have speeded...

I do not believe the hon. Lady has been present throughout the debate; had she been, she would ha...

Are we not in danger of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good?

On that basis, my hon. Friend is basically saying, “Let’s get a Bill with a nice title, with any ...

If the hon. Gentleman were generous enough to draw his remarks to a close within a reasonably sho...

Yes, that point has been raised. Basically, we are going to cover everything that is not in the B...

Again, I would have appreciated sight of the amendments earlier, not least because we could have ...

Well, the only problem with that is that we will end up in the same game in which I table an amen...

My hon. Friend has been a Member of Parliament for a lot longer than I have, so he will be aware ...

But we do not know what will be in this guidance. I am making the case that it is absolutely esse...

The Government’s line seems to be that this legislation is an urgent measure. If it is so urgent,...

Order. The hon. Gentleman is making an intervention on the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies...

I invite my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) to ask the Minister whether she ag...

Absolutely. It appears, to me at any rate—I do not know about anyone else—that the Government are...

And, of course, every threat of the use of force would have to be recorded, would it not? The thr...

I agree. The same applies to amendment 41 —also in the name of the right hon. Member for North No...

It all depends on when the draft guidance is produced. My amendment is referring to the guidance ...

My hon. Friend is on to something with that, and I certainly agree. It is quite extraordinary tha...

At the moment, clause 7(2) states that subsection (1) does not apply to cases where the use of fo...

I hope that my hon. Friend will expand on that later. He makes a good point, and I am broadly sym...

Some people looking at today’s proceedings may say that my hon. Friend has been speaking for a lo...

Order. May I just say that we do not need to be reminded of how long the hon. Member for Shipley ...

My hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch will have noticed that at no point did anybody in the ...

In speaking today, including about the amendments I have tabled, I take a different view from tha...

First, I thank and congratulate the hon. Member for Croydon North (Mr Reed) on his tireless work ...

Does my hon. Friend agree that this Bill is vital and it is a testament to the work of Seni Lewis...

This is an important reform that will considerably alter the balance of the scales of justice in ...

Will my hon. Friend expand a little more on the timescale within which an independent forensic pa...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. As he says, the longer the answers take, t...

The Minister is making some interesting points about the legal aid review. Will she confirm what ...

I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention. I hope that we will continue to consider everything...

Will the Minister look at whether the guidance will be clear about the importance of staff not in...

The right hon. Gentleman is right about that, so let me go through the provisions we think are in...

Will the Minister make a statement on which products would be covered by the Bill and which would...

I will commit to writing to my hon. Friend with details of the products licensed by the National ...

Would the Bill cover situations in which the NHS is paying for private services in mental health ...

It would; indeed, to be more explicit, any service with which the NHS commissions mental health s...

My hon. Friend is being very generous. Will she tell us the current state of the guidance? Can it...

We will undertake it speedily and it will be made public, but, as my hon. Friend will appreciate,...

This is my very final point. Even if this is not in the Bill, does the Minister agree that it wou...

That issue did come up in Committee. Although I appreciate the spirit with which the right hon. G...

May I start by congratulating my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon North (Mr Reed) on progressin...

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I seek your advice, because I have heard conflicting view...

If it goes wrong, it is obviously going to come back on me. In the end the right hon. Gentleman m...

There is only a bare hour left, Mr Deputy Speaker.

Twenty-five minutes will do you, then. Come on, Sir Christopher!

1.30 pm

It is a pleasure to follow the Opposition spokesman. He was right to pay tribute to the work of t...

My hon. Friend, as a good small state Conservative, will appreciate my desire not to put burden o...

Will it apply to private patients in private institutions as well?

Where that institution provides services to the NHS, it will, because we will only commission ser...

Okay. That is very helpful. As my hon. Friend says, I am keen to avoid unnecessary burdens and re...

My hon. Friend is right, it can, but that should be a clinical judgment. We are trying to tackle ...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that clarification.

I tabled amendments 92 to 95 becaus...

The Government most certainly do. I mentioned earlier that we are currently undertaking a review ...

I am grateful to the Minister, and to you for your indulgence, Mr Deputy Speaker. It shows your f...

I am grateful to right hon. and hon. Members across the Chamber for the constructive way in which...

I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

Given that we have only nine minut...

I cannot pay tribute enough to the hon. Member for Croydon North (Mr Reed) for his incredible lea...

I, too, pay tribute to the hon. Member for Croydon North (Mr Reed) for bringing forward this Bill...