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Local Authority Financial Sustainability: NAO Report

Debate on Tuesday, 20 March 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Mike Amesbury. The answering members were Andrew Gwynne and Heather Wheeler.
Motion that this House has considered the National Audit Office report on the financial sustainability of local authorities, HC 834. Agreed to on question.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

638 cc77-97WH 

Session

2017-19

Chamber / Committee

Westminster Hall

Proceeding contributions

Mike Amesbury | 638 c78WH (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the National Audit Office report on the finan...

Stephen Lloyd | 638 c78WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for securing this important debate. The Times, which is not known for ...


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Mike Amesbury | 638 c78WH (Link to this contribution)

I do. As a result of that 50% cut, services have been drastically reduced. Pressures and demands ...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c78WH (Link to this contribution)

I give way to my colleague and constituency neighbour.

Derek Twigg | 638 c78WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate. He knows that Halton Borough Cou...

Mike Amesbury | 638 cc78-9WH (Link to this contribution)

Of course. Things have been particularly difficult for local children’s services and adult servic...

Stephanie Peacock | 638 c79WH (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this important debate and echo his thanks to our counci...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c79WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree. It took the Conservative leader of Surrey County Council to threaten a referendum on a 1...

Thelma Walker | 638 c79WH (Link to this contribution)

The NAO report shows that the number of looked-after children has increased by 10.9% since 2010, ...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c79WH (Link to this contribution)

Certainly. In fact, there will be a £2 billion shortfall by 2022, so there is a real crisis in ch...

Afzal Khan | 638 c79WH (Link to this contribution)

I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend on securing the debate. We both served on Manchester City Cou...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c80WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend and former colleague on Manchester City Council.

Councils of al...

Matt Rodda | 638 c80WH (Link to this contribution)

One of the great problems for many children’s services departments operating in areas of high hou...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c81WH (Link to this contribution)

Indeed, those factors are highlighted in the report. Perhaps its most concerning aspect is the fi...

Fiona Onasanya | 638 cc81-2WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Mike Amesbury) for securing this important deb...

Emma Hardy | 638 cc82-4WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Mike Amesbury) for securing the debate. My con...

Dan Carden | 638 cc84-5WH (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Memb...

Laura Pidcock | 638 cc85-6WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Mike Amesbury) for bringing this extremely imp...

Jo Platt | 638 cc86-7WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Weaver Vale (Mike Amesbury) for securing this vital debate....

Emma Hardy | 638 c87WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right about reserves. In 2007, Hull was hit by terrible flooding, wh...

Jo Platt | 638 cc87-8WH (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree. We could all mention many instances where the reserves have come into play.

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c88WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Me...

Emma Hardy | 638 c88WH (Link to this contribution)

I have already spoken about the cuts facing the East Riding of Yorkshire Council. My constituency...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c88WH (Link to this contribution)

I agree wholeheartedly with my hon. Friend. As I said, I find it bitterly surprising. When we tal...

Wera Hobhouse | 638 c88WH (Link to this contribution)

I was a councillor for 10 years in a local authority in the north of England and I totally agree ...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 cc88-9WH (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Lady. I will be kind to her because she was my son’s German teacher at ...

Fiona Onasanya | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

In my constituency, Peterborough is run by a Conservative council, which has come to me and said,...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree. The Tory-controlled Local Government Association and Tory-controlled County C...

Dan Carden | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted my hon. Friend has made that point. We are trying to argue that this matter is not...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a very important point. One of the two local authorities that I represent, T...

Lilian Greenwood | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend makes a powerful point. The situation is similar in my own local authority of Nott...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c89WH (Link to this contribution)

I will let the Minister speak for herself. We know that local authorities have to provide social ...

Emma Hardy | 638 c90WH (Link to this contribution)

Exactly. There are cuts to the local library service, for example. Local libraries have had to re...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 cc90-2WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. Those are the pressures facing our communities. We talk about local services as thoug...

Fiona Onasanya | 638 c91WH (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that the situation is a clear case of knowing the price of everything a...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c91WH (Link to this contribution)

It absolutely is, but if it was compounded by Tory mismanagement at local level in Northamptonshi...

Emma Hardy | 638 c91WH (Link to this contribution)

We have talked a lot about percentages and money, but I want to mention something a little more i...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c91WH (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Indeed, it is worse than that because we need to rebuild thes...

Emma Hardy | 638 c91WH (Link to this contribution)

The Government talk the good talk on social mobility and say how important that is, but at the mo...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c93WH (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. This is about our museums, heritage, and cultural services—the glue that makes our co...

Heather Wheeler | 638 cc93-4WH (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans—for the first time, I believe. I cong...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c94WH (Link to this contribution)

But that is not a single penny extra from central Government. All the Minister has done is shift ...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c94WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention and repeat: the money from this Government has i...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c94WH (Link to this contribution)

That still equates to a 3% reduction from 2010 to 2017. It is a real-terms reduction.

Heather Wheeler | 638 c94WH (Link to this contribution)

I am always delighted to hear the dexterity of mathematicians in this building. It is £44 billion...

Fiona Onasanya | 638 c94WH (Link to this contribution)

Listening to the figures being presented, I understand the proposition that there has been an inc...

Heather Wheeler | 638 cc94-5WH (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes her point very elegantly, but I prefer the dress she is wearing today to ones...

Wera Hobhouse | 638 c95WH (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister ensure that no council gets less money as a consequence of the new funding form...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c95WH (Link to this contribution)

Much as I would love to do that, I think the safest thing I can do is refer the hon. Lady to the ...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c95WH (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to carry on. As I said, alongside the new methodology, the Government are committe...

Emma Hardy | 638 c95WH (Link to this contribution)

On that point, if I am not able to make the point that I was going to make previously, I want to ...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

Yes, indeed. Forgive me for repeating myself, Mr Evans: 25% will go to the councils that do not h...

Emma Hardy | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

The Minister says 25%. Hull City Council currently relies on the Government revenue grant for 81%...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

The business rates for the City of London are many, many millions of pounds. The money that is sp...

Andrew Gwynne | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

Of course, this is not just about the councils that are unable to raise enough business rates to ...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

I would be devastated if that happened and I cannot imagine why it would happen, with the growing...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

At what stage will the Government legislate, as they previously stated they would, to ensure that...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c96WH (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman will have to wait for that to happen.

I referred to a b...

Dan Carden | 638 c97WH (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister agree with us that, actually, a fair funding formula is about the requirements ...

Heather Wheeler | 638 c97WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that kind invitation; I am sure that eventually that will happen. ...

Mike Amesbury | 638 c97WH (Link to this contribution)

I thank you, Mr Evans, and the Minister. Of course, I too am disappointed at the austerity clearl...

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