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Health Service Medical Supplies (Costs) Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 24 October 2016, in the House of Commons, led by Jeremy Hunt. The answering members were Baroness Keeley and Justin Madders.
Second reading. Agreed to on question. Programme motion agreed to on question.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

616 cc71-114 

Session

2016-17

Legislative stage

Second reading

Procedure

Programme motions

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Health Service Medical Supplies (Costs) Bill 2016-17
Thursday, 15 September 2016
Bills
House of Commons
Commons Library analysis of the Health Service Medical Supplies (Costs) Bill
Friday, 21 October 2016
Research briefings

Proceeding contributions

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c72 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be read a Second time.

This is a short and focused Bill which ...

James Cartlidge | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on this effort. I recently received a written answer that las...


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Jeremy Hunt | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that issue. Although the measures he mentions are not...

Steve McCabe | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that question, I can see how the Bill will deal with the issue of debranding, and that...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

It will deal with some of those concerns, and we will listen to all the concerns raised by hon. M...

John Glen | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the provisions of the Bill that will close a loophole and deal with terrible examples o...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c73 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right in that we see demand for NHS services, which includes treatment and drug...

Andrew Murrison | 616 c74 (Link to this contribution)

What assessment has my right hon. Friend made of the impact this Bill might have on the parallel ...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c74 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend obviously knows about these matters in a great deal of detail and should be reassu...

Rob Marris | 616 c74 (Link to this contribution)

The early part of the Bill appears incredibly tortuous, because it relates to whether something i...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c74 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. It will be for this House and the Government to refl...

Daniel Zeichner | 616 c75 (Link to this contribution)

The Secretary of State tells us that £1.24 billion has come back through the rebate, but many are...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c75 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. The money comes back to the Department of Health and is invested in the NHS. Indeed, ...

Kit Malthouse | 616 c75 (Link to this contribution)

Notwithstanding the Bill’s objectives, which I can see are admirable, does the Secretary of State...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c75 (Link to this contribution)

Yes. My hon. Friend makes an important point. The third part of the Bill will provide for much be...

Sarah Wollaston | 616 c75 (Link to this contribution)

Further to that important point about biosimilars, and in welcoming this legislation and the oppo...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 cc75-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to look into that—some of my own constituents have been affected by that issue. I am n...

Rob Marris | 616 c76 (Link to this contribution)

I voted for the 2006 Act, but I have to say to the Secretary of State that profit controls are pr...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c77 (Link to this contribution)

Our march on to the centre ground carries on apace. [Laughter.] In response to the hon. Gentleman...

Mark Field | 616 c77 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that not only the Opposition but Government Members are reassured by those comments in res...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c77 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to give that reassurance. As I said, this industry contributes £56 billion to the UK e...

Kevin Foster | 616 c77 (Link to this contribution)

We agree that this is not about profit controls—about having a fair return for investment made—bu...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 cc77-8 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right about that. The nice way of putting it is that we are closing a loophole....

Norman Lamb | 616 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I very much agree with the point that the Secretary of State has just made. He talked about colla...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 c78 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot give the right hon. Gentleman that indication because, as he will know, the CMA operates...

Mike Wood | 616 c79 (Link to this contribution)

Has my right hon. Friend made any assessment of how the prices of the drugs quoted in the article...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 cc79-80 (Link to this contribution)

We have made some assessments of those things, but, in essence, our concern is that, even without...

Flick Drummond | 616 c80 (Link to this contribution)

In this regard, will my right hon. Friend be giving consideration to asking pharmacies that can p...

Jeremy Hunt | 616 cc80-1 (Link to this contribution)

The information we collect might make it possible for us more robustly to analyse issues such as ...

Justin Madders | 616 c81 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Secretary of State for outlining the overarching principles of this Bill, which, as w...

Keith Vaz | 616 c81 (Link to this contribution)

May I declare an interest as a type 2 diabetic and chair of the all-party diabetes group? Ten per...

Justin Madders | 616 c82 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my right hon. Friend for his intervention and pay tribute to him for his great work on di...

Mark Tami | 616 c82 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend will know—I am sure that we all know this—that there is a difference between the l...

Justin Madders | 616 cc82-3 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is one reason why we must tread carefully, and hear what...

Baroness Hayman of Ullock | 616 c83 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that pharmacists often know their patients much better than over-stretc...

Justin Madders | 616 c83 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. There was real concern about the announcement last week. From...

Mark Field | 616 c83 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has been fair in his broad analysis of the problems that we face between the s...

Justin Madders | 616 cc83-4 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that it is important that we keep the dialogue open with industry. We are proud of what t...

Rob Marris | 616 c84 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend speaks of the abuse of a dominant market position, and this Bill extends the power...

Justin Madders | 616 c85 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend tempts me a little way outside my brief. I note, though, that our health service i...

Steve McCabe | 616 c85 (Link to this contribution)

Where the advertising budgets of pharmaceutical companies dwarf their R&D budgets, is there not a...

Justin Madders | 616 cc85-6 (Link to this contribution)

We will not get very far with this Government on corporation tax. They have been going in a direc...

Mark Tami | 616 c86 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that we have to be careful not to discourage drug companies from doing ...

Justin Madders | 616 cc86-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We must be careful of the law of unintended consequences with...

Simon Burns | 616 cc87-8 (Link to this contribution)

As any constituency MP will know, the pressures on the NHS grow year in, year out, partly because...

Rob Marris | 616 c88 (Link to this contribution)

According to the Library briefing, since the Bill’s publication the share price of Concordia Inte...

Simon Burns | 616 c89 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for sharing that information.

Equally important, the Bi...

Philippa Whitford | 616 cc89-90 (Link to this contribution)

Like the right hon. Member for Chelmsford (Sir Simon Burns), I pay tribute to some of the researc...

Rob Marris | 616 c90 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making a powerful speech, as ever. May I pick her medical brains, as it were, on...

Philippa Whitford | 616 cc90-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is an area that needs to be looked at. A narrow definition that covers only blades and swabs...

Jo Churchill | 616 c91 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady is making an informed and impassioned speech. Does she agree that we are entering a...

Philippa Whitford | 616 c91 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely. We have entered the realms of using immunotherapies such as Herceptin for cancer. Equ...

Andrew Selous | 616 cc91-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the extremely well informed speech given by the hon. Member for Centra...

Rob Marris | 616 c92 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is extolling the work that The Times did in a series of articles this June. Ma...

Andrew Selous | 616 cc92-4 (Link to this contribution)

If memory serves, it was a team of investigative journalists from The Sunday Times that focused o...

Norman Lamb | 616 cc94-6 (Link to this contribution)

This is an uncontroversial set of measures and I confirm my support for the Bill as it stands. Th...

Philippa Whitford | 616 c96 (Link to this contribution)

Does the right hon. Gentleman recognise that we are one of a tiny handful of OECD countries that ...

Norman Lamb | 616 cc96-7 (Link to this contribution)

I note that point. I suppose my overall point is that given the unsustainable increase in the tot...

James Davies | 616 cc97-100 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to speak in support of the Bill, which affects my constituents in north Wales as...

Kevin Foster | 616 cc98-101 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Vale of Clwyd (Dr Davies) and to hear ma...

Rob Marris | 616 c101 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my new friend, another socialist, for giving way. May I tempt him to suggest som...

Kevin Foster | 616 c101 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman tempts me, but I see you are now in the Chair, Mr Deputy Speaker, and you are ...

Kevin Foster | 616 c101 (Link to this contribution)

That is good to know.

We have seen work the Government have done in other sectors, for exam...

Rob Marris | 616 c102 (Link to this contribution)

May I suggest another industry it might be worth looking at, where this situation obtains, namely...

Kevin Foster | 616 c102 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. As a member of the Public Accounts Committee I ...

Maggie Throup | 616 cc102-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to be called to speak and to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Torbay (Kevin ...

Rob Marris | 616 c103 (Link to this contribution)

Coupling those two points together, does the hon. Lady agree that it might be advisable for the G...

Maggie Throup | 616 cc103-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman makes a very good point. There is already a cut-off for some of the data colle...

Jo Churchill | 616 cc104-5 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Erewash (Maggie Throup).

We all kn...

Philippa Whitford | 616 c105 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the hon. Lady remembers the time we spent in the House last November debating th...

Jo Churchill | 616 c105 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the hon. Lady for making the point so succinctly. I am also grateful to the Secretary of ...

Baroness Keeley | 616 cc105-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all Members who have made contributions to the debate. We find ourselves in a situation w...

Rob Marris | 616 c107 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to cite for my hon. Friend and the House the Library briefing, which shows that it i...

Baroness Keeley | 616 c107 (Link to this contribution)

No, but I think the hon. Member for Torbay was talking about companies that are not doing any res...

Kevin Foster | 616 c107 (Link to this contribution)

I want to be clear about this point. I think the shadow Minister would probably agree that certai...

Baroness Keeley | 616 cc107-9 (Link to this contribution)

Very much so.

The hon. Member for Bury St Edmunds (Jo Churchill) welcomed the Bill and talk...

Philip Dunne | 616 cc109-110 (Link to this contribution)

What a great pleasure it is, Mr Deputy Speaker, to stand before you after this important debate, ...

Baroness Keeley | 616 c110 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I was not clear enough, but I was not making that point. I was making the point that the ...

Philip Dunne | 616 cc110-3 (Link to this contribution)

Just to reassure the hon. Lady, I can tell her that the establishment cost for each pharmacy is c...

Rob Marris | 616 c113 (Link to this contribution)

First, may I say in passing that it does not sound very draconian if the powers have never been e...

Philip Dunne | 616 c113 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman may be making a pitch to the Committee of Selection and I would be del...

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