Housing and Planning Bill
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609 cc57-142 Session
2015-16Legislative stage
Lords amendmentsChamber / Committee
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Proceeding contributions
I must draw the House’s attention to the fact that financial privilege is engaged by Lords amendm...
I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 1.
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With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Government amendments (a) to (c) ...
I am glad to be back at the Dispatch Box and returning to the Housing and Planning Bill this afte...
Will the Minister please clarify what “higher-value properties” means? How much?
I will deal with that in a few moments, when I come to higher-value assets and other aspects befo...
Does the Minister agree that the idea of more affordable homes for sale is extremely popular? I a...
I hope it will not take us too long, that the other House will accept our points today and that t...
I will finish answering the last intervention, and then I will come to the Chairman of the Commun...
The Select Committee pushed the Minister on his impact and financial assessment of the full costs...
It was rather surprising to see the PAC reviewing a policy that has not gone through the House ye...
I give way to the Chairman of the PAC.
The Minister cited the PAC report published last Friday. Just to be clear, the Committee does loo...
In terms of making good use of our social housing stock, I am sure that the hon. Lady will suppor...
The Minister has made a lot of “affordable”. Can he define it? Is it right that an affordable sta...
The right hon. Gentleman might like to go back to look at the evidence given to the Committee tha...
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way so that I can clarify both the role of the Public Ac...
I have huge respect for the hon. Lady, but I was not sweeping anything aside at all. What I am mo...
Let me make a bit more progress; I shall give way again later.
There is much on which we ca...
My constituents in Rossendale and Darwen look at many of the arguments of Labour Members and say ...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. As I travel around the country, I find that people are fr...
I must say to the Minister, with all due respect to my hon. Friend the Member for Rossendale and ...
My hon. Friend highlights how this policy is about delivering for people on the ground. While Lab...
We need a policy to fit all parts of the country, including London. In inner London, however, sta...
I am tempted to use the inimitable phrase, “I refer the hon. Lady to the comments I gave a few mo...
Let me make some more progress on starter homes.
Amendment 1 requires on resale of the star...
Will the taper be regional, or will it be a “one size fits all” for the whole United Kingdom? As ...
My hon. Friend has made a good point. That is one reason why the strictures of legislation do not...
The Minister will recall that at the end of last year, in Committee, there were a number of excha...
I shall say a little about the provision concerned in a moment, but we will be very clear about t...
How much consultation has the Minister had about the impact of the Bill with the voluntary sector...
We have worked across the sector, and it is clear that our starter home proposals are very popula...
The Minister speaks of affordability. Is he aware that the average deposit paid on properties in ...
That is why we have extended and changed the arrangements. We now have the London Help to Buy sch...
One of the Lords amendments refers to the principle behind the Khan amendment, which is that when...
I shall deal with the hon. Lady’s question on high-value assets in just a few moments; I just wan...
On the question of affordability and starter homes, the hon. Member for Hornsey and Wood Green (C...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. The stamp duty will apply to the price paid for the prope...
We hear a lot from local authorities about trying to secure rental properties, but we in this cou...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point, regardless of the comments from the right hon. Member for...
I am trying to understand what the Minister actually does want. I am trying to work out whether s...
I must point out to the Chairman of the Select Committee that we have been clear from the beginni...
Will the Minister give way?
I am just going to complete this point. We will deliver on the mandate to deliver 200,000 starter...
I am still as confused as I was at the beginning of the debate and at the Select Committee hearin...
I am actually talking about what will happen with the sale of higher-value properties, which is s...
I welcome the fact that there will be more flexibility on higher-value homes, particularly for ou...
My hon. Friend makes a good point about the importance of having this flexibility. In London, loc...
My hon. Friend is being incredibly generous with his time. As he will know from his visit to Bath...
My hon. Friend makes a good point. When I visited him and met constituents, developers and the lo...
Will the Minister give way?
I will just answer the previous intervention before I take one from the right hon. Gentleman.
...Will the Minister give way?
I am happy to give way. Perhaps the hon. Lady is going to apologise for the debt and deficit that...
I draw the Minister’s attention to the fact that Westminster City Council, which, as usual, is in...
The hon. Lady will be interested to hear what I have to say in a few minutes about how the policy...
I welcome the safeguards that my hon. Friend is setting out. Many Labour Members often argue that...
My hon. Friend and neighbour makes an interesting point, and people reading Hansard will want to ...
I take great offence at the suggestion that two people—two pensioners, for example—on a fixed inc...
I do not think that that recognises the policy at all. The policy means that as people earn more,...
It is difficult to know where to start. The Minister talks about people paying an extra few pound...
If the hon. Lady reads the Bill and the amendment, she will appreciate that we do not suggest tha...
The Communities and Local Government Committee took evidence from housing associations when the G...
The hon. Gentleman is missing the point. This is about fairness across the system. People in Lond...
Will my hon. Friend tell the House what the reality of social housing for rent in London and beyo...
My hon. Friend places in keen focus one of the problems of the housing deficit that the Governmen...
I thank their lordships for their amazing work on this Bill. Thirteen defeats and a string of con...
When the hon. Lady talks about the affordability crisis, does she think that any part was played ...
As the hon. Gentleman will know, Labour produced more than 1 million more homeowners during our t...
Does the hon. Lady accept that the reason private rents are increasingly high is that we have not...
Absolutely. The question is: will this Bill deliver the homes? We do not think it will.
Fac...
The hon. Lady says she is concerned about the Government dictating the number of starter homes th...
The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point, but the point I am making is that we will need not o...
The hon. Lady needs to concede that Conservative Members have suspicions that her opposition to s...
But surely the hon. Gentleman must agree that the way of dealing with that is through the local p...
My hon. Friend is making an important point about localism. Do we not also need the local authori...
Absolutely. My hon. Friend makes an excellent point, and it shows why a local test of the need fo...
My hon. Friend raises an important point. My local authority is set to have to sell 700 homes ove...
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point and I shall come on to deal with that issue when discussi...
The Minister has said on a number of occasions that the sale of the “higher-value council propert...
My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. If the Minister has those figures, we will give him an o...
Does my hon. Friend agree that this also punishes good councils that try to build social homes?
Indeed, but I suspect that that is part of the Government’s rationale.
Labour will be suppo...
The Minister was talking about amendment 47. The important principle of the Khan amendment is tha...
My hon. Friend has asked the Minister to make that confirmation, but I doubt that he will take he...
Can my hon. Friend help me understand how Government Members are simultaneously arguing that a ho...
I look forward to the Minister’s answer to my hon. Friend’s question.
Such people, however,...
Does the hon. Lady agree with the principle of means-testing tenants in properties that are set a...
As the hon. Gentleman sat on the Bill Committee, he should know that a voluntary scheme is alread...
I am deeply worried that the hon. Lady cannot seem to agree with those housing charity chief exec...
In the main, council housing in this country is allocated on the basis of need.
Does the hon. Lady agree that the hard-working families who we see in our surgeries—I certainly s...
The right hon. Gentleman makes a really good point; that person will get absolutely nothing.
I have already given way to the hon. Lady.
Lords amendment 54 would limit the damage of pay...
Let me bring the hon. Lady back to her earlier comment about social housing being allocated accor...
I do not accept most of what the hon. Gentleman says. What we must do is build lots more council ...
I thank the hon. Lady for her response to my hon. Friend the Member for Rossendale and Darwen (Ja...
As the hon. Lady knows, many people in this country and, I am sure, in her constituency, are on c...
I draw Members’ attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.
I am...
Most of us on the Opposition Benches would agree that a starter home for a young family is a grea...
I have great respect for the hon. Lady and the work she does on her Committee, but, with great re...
It was a great pleasure to serve with my hon. Friend on the Bill Committee. She touches on an int...
Indeed. Those happy days in November and December that we all spent together in Committee were an...
I am a London MP. It might be difficult for Members who are not London MPs to understand how diff...
I will let other London MPs respond more fully on the particular London issues.
Will my hon. Friend give way?
I will make a little progress—otherwise, I will be up and down like a fiddler’s elbow.
Let ...
Earlier the hon. Lady actually made the case for a more localist approach. She said she was not a...
I have the greatest respect for the hon. Gentleman, but the Lords amendments would hold the proce...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I am afraid I am going to make a little more progress.
Developers and builders want certain...
Does my hon. Friend agree that it is the small builders who actually get on and build, whereas th...
I agree. Given how small builders are funded and run, they are not land banking in the same way. ...
The most astounding thing about the Government’s proposals is that we are expected to make decisi...
Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Of course I give way to the hon. Gentleman, who is a member of the Select Committee.
The hon. Gentleman will remember the clear evidence given by David Orr of the National Housing Fe...
We had evidence from various housing associations about how they were going to respond to the pro...
Does my hon. Friend share my concern that research commissioned by the Local Government Associati...
Yes. It is interesting that my hon. Friend mentions the LGA, which argued very strongly, on a cro...
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way on that brilliant point. Does he agree with some c...
Potentially it does, because driving out all the people on slightly higher incomes and removing p...
While I have sympathy with some of the points the hon. Gentleman is making, does he not accept th...
I would argue this: let us tackle the scarcity. Let us start a building programme of 100,000 soci...
The House will probably be aware that I am passionate about home ownership and about helping peop...
I make no apologies for returning to the issue of London, because that is where housing need is s...
Will the hon. Lady join me in welcoming the fact that in London, for every single high-value unit...
No, I do not welcome that at all. As we heard in the superb speech from the Front Bench by my hon...
It is interesting to hear about the housing market in London, but does the hon. Lady recognise th...
Funnily enough, that is almost the thrust of my argument. Things that are applicable in the hon. ...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Westminster North (Ms Buck), although I suspect th...
Is there not an issue of fairness and social equality here? It was reported today that 25% of the...
It is quite clear that we want a more democratic system in which people have the opportunity to b...
What does the hon. Gentleman think of the suggestion recently made by one of my constituents that...
It is quite clear there should be an opportunity for everyone to exercise the right to buy. In Lo...
Is the hon. Gentleman therefore saying that pay to stay is intended to drive people out of social...
No. This is where there might be differences between London and the south-east, and other parts o...
The hon. Gentleman has had much to say about pay to stay, but has he looked at the Government’s o...
If individuals are not contributing additional rent towards the social rent they are being charge...
We have just heard about the land held by TfL, and Labour Members are seeking guarantees that hou...
Will the hon. Lady give way?
I will not give way now as I want to get into my stride.
7.30 pm
My hon. Friend the M...
Order. I am not going to impose a time limit, but there are still 10 Members who wish to speak in...
I will speak specifically against Lords amendment 54. Local authorities should not have local dis...
My hon. Friend has jogged my memory. Unfortunately, I forgot to declare my entry in the Register ...
I welcome my hon. Friend’s doing so, because it shows the kind of principles that we should uphol...
My hon. Friend is making a very strong case. Does she remember the time, not that long ago—about ...
I welcome that reminder from my hon. Friend. Like him, I urge people to vote Conservative in city...
I am grateful to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak, because I know that many oth...
Does my right hon. Friend also recognise that there is a phenomenon known as “right to buy to let...
It is a phenomenal waste of resources. Usually, although we play party politics and there are div...
I will try to be a little more sober in my approach to this debate. It is a privilege to be able ...
Is not one problem in this debate that a property will be sold for a certain value—the open-marke...
I completely agree. The sale of one high-value asset in a high-value area, such as Oxford, could ...
I am a member of Sutton Housing Society Ltd, although I have no pecuniary interest.
I will ...
I start by declaring my housing interests in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests. They i...
I congratulate their Lordships on their meticulous and effective scrutiny of the Housing and Plan...
Opposition Members have made the point that starter homes will be built, rather than affordable h...
Does the hon. Gentleman dispute the figures given by the Office for National Statistics, which ha...
I am not aware of the figures to which the right hon. Gentleman has referred, but, according to t...
Will my hon. Friend join me in welcoming the fact that, over the last eight years, the current Ma...
I welcome the building of properties for all tenures, because lack of supply is at the heart of t...
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Thirsk and Malton (Kevin Hollinrake).
I shal...
I draw colleagues’ attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests.
L...
With the leave of the House, I shall respond to the debate. I thank all Members who have spoken a...
I must remind the House that the motion relates exclusively to England. A double majority is ther...
I remind the House that the motion relates exclusively to England. A double majority is therefore...
I must now put the Questions necessary to dispose of the remaining Lords amendments in the group....
I must now put the Question on the remaining Lords amendments that have not been certified.
On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Lords amendments 92 and 93 were moved by Lord Young of Co...
As a man who has been here longer than most, you will know that that is not for the Chair to inte...
I beg to move, That this House disagrees with Lords amendment 97.
With this it will be convenient to consider the following:
Government amendment (a) in lieu...
I will try to be brief, but I want to go through a few key areas in this group of amendments. If ...
The Minister will be aware that in a number of areas where neighbourhood plans have been adopted,...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. She is absolutely right that there have been examples of ...
The Minister makes an extremely good point. I am pleased that he is introducing such a new clause...
I know that my hon. Friend has campaigned hard and has made her case strongly in the House. Howev...
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way because I know he is pressed for time. My issue is n...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. I can assure him that I have very recently written to the...
The Minister is making a powerful point. Last week, he very kindly made that point to three of my...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point about the importance of making sure that five-year land su...
Notwithstanding the very welcome amendment (a) in lieu of Lords amendment 97, can the Minister gi...
My hon. Friend has joined colleagues in making clear that they want us to look at how we can go f...
The Minister is making a good case for neighbourhood plans, although I am personally more sympath...
I am happy to outline that there is additional help out there. We give money to local areas to do...
Has the Minister attempted to calculate what homeowners would save each year in energy costs if t...
The right hon. Gentleman might want to reflect on the point I have just made about how we have re...
Will the Minister assure us that he has given due consideration to our climate change commitments...
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. That is why we are so proud of the work that we have done...
I very much welcome what the Minister is saying. He will be aware of the problems we have had in ...
I appreciate my hon. Friend’s point; indeed, I appreciate the intention behind Lords amendment 11...
Will the Minister give way?
I will make a little progress, but I will take more interventions later.
Order. Members want to get in, but they will not get in if they keep intervening. They have to ch...
Lords amendment 110 seeks to remove an automatic right to connect to the public sewer for surface...
The Minister is being generous in giving way. I understand his concerns about the current proposa...
I appreciate my hon. Friend’s point, but I say again that one of the problems with the proposed n...
I thank the Minister for giving way. I was going to save this point and make a short speech, but ...
My hon. Friend make a very good point, as have other colleagues across the Chamber this evening. ...
The first thing I want to say about the planning section of the Bill is that it is a pity that it...
I shall speak briefly to Lords amendments 108 on carbon compliance for new homes and 110 on susta...
I want to say a little about the “alternative provider” clauses and the relevant Lords amendment,...
I want to speak briefly about Lords amendment 97. The issue of planning has been at the forefront...
I welcome the Lords amendments that introduce exemptions from permission in principle and clarify...
I know that the Minister is aware of my constituents’ feelings in the light of an avalanche of ap...
I want to spend a couple of minutes on two amendments. I am disappointed by what the Minister had...
I know that we are tight for time. I listened with much interest to what the Minister said about ...
If Anne Marie Morris orates briefly, she might almost allow the Minister, with leave of the House...
Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will keep my comments brief.
As the Minister knows, I have campaig...
The debate has summed up just how important the planning system is to many of those who write to ...
I must remind the House that the motion relates exclusively to England. A double majority is ther...
I must remind the House that the motion relates exclusively to England and Wales. A double majori...
I must now put the Questions necessary to dispose of the remaining Lords amendments. First, under...
I must now put the Question on the remaining Lords amendments that relate exclusively to England ...
I must now put the Question on the remaining Lords amendments that have not been certified.