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Psychoactive Substances Bill [Lords]

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 20 January 2016, in the House of Commons.
Report stage. New clause 1, negatived on division (241 to 307). New clause 2, negatived on division (227 to 306). Clause 8, amendment negatived on division (47 to 307). Clauses 32 and 62 and Schedules 2 and 5, amendments made. Schedule 1, amendment negatived on division (228 to 309). Third reading agreed to on question. Bill passed with amendments.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

604 cc1437-1507 

Session

2015-16

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lyn Brown | 604 c1438 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Natascha Engel | 604 cc1438-1440 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 3—Control of cannabis—...


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Lyn Brown | 604 c1440 (Link to this contribution)

Both amendment 4 and new clause 1 deal with the key issue of drugs education and awareness. This ...

Nick Thomas-Symonds | 604 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

At the end of last year I visited St Alban’s RC high school in my constituency, my old school, an...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for making that point. Wales has a very impressive education programme, an...

Andrew Gwynne | 604 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making an important point about the need for PSHE to include these measures. Gi...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1441 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. If I remember my facts rightly, the Government estimated that...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

Can my hon. Friend give an example of any anti-drug use education programme here or anywhere else...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

I am going to come to that later in my speech when I talk about Wales. Although there has not yet...

Jim Shannon | 604 c1442 (Link to this contribution)

While this legislation will go some towards addressing legal highs, there is still the issue of t...

Lyn Brown | 604 cc1442-3 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that there is much we can do to prevent the supply of, and demand for, these substances. ...

Steve Brine | 604 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

It is good to hear from the hon. Lady again; I enjoyed listening to her in Committee. I agree wit...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

I do so agree with the hon. Gentleman about that. Unfortunately, I have not been lucky enough to ...

Diana Johnson | 604 c1443 (Link to this contribution)

There are a lot of very responsible parents out there who will of course talk to their children a...

Lyn Brown | 604 cc1443-4 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right indeed about that.

These life skills can be taught only by helping ...

David Burrowes | 604 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, very much commend the Angelus Foundation, which gave evidence to the Select Committee on ...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1444 (Link to this contribution)

I say give the hon. Gentleman a job in the Home Office, because we would become much more effecti...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 c1445 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady may not be aware that a very prominent anti-drugs campaigner in my constituency, Ma...

Lyn Brown | 604 cc1445-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the right hon. Lady for making that point. I know very little about drugs, apart from wha...

Mike Penning | 604 c1446 (Link to this contribution)

I am conscious that this is an intervention and not a speech. Later on, when I have a chance to r...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1446 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to hear that, and I am grateful to the Minister for his intervention.

Crispin Blunt | 604 c1446 (Link to this contribution)

On that point, whatever process the Government go through, it seems to be bordering on crazy to t...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1446 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, and, yes, I do agree with him. Despite ...

Andrew Gwynne | 604 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with my hon. Friend’s approach to this matter, as it makes a lot of sense. The Government...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Let us look at the context and the evidence. Poppers have bee...

Steve Brine | 604 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

I am glad that the hon. Lady has mentioned the National AIDS Trust. I have read its briefing on t...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that we should be doing this the other way round. I will explain why as I go along...

David Davis | 604 c1447 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to express a view that is opposite to that of my hon. Friend the Member for Winchester (St...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely agree with the right hon. Gentleman.

In giving evidence to the Home Affairs Co...

David Burrowes | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

Just to be fair-minded, while I also share concerns about poppers not being on the exempt list, I...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

Genuinely, if the evidence changes and we can see that there are significant harms, we should ban...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

Will my hon. Friend challenge the popular myth that, by banning a drug, we reduce its use? That h...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that if we do not place poppers on the exempt list today, we are likely to replace a regu...

Andrew Gwynne | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

The situation is worse than that set out by my hon. Friend the Member for Newport West (Paul Flyn...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

I totally agree. My hon. Friend probably puts it better than I could.

David Davis | 604 c1448 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the hon. Lady for intervening a second time, but I just want to ensure that we get...

Lyn Brown | 604 cc1449-1450 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I agree with the right hon. Gentleman. The Home Affairs Committee concluded that poppers o...

Natascha Engel | 604 c1450 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Before calling the next Member to speak, I point out that we have about two hours remainin...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 cc1450-1 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 1, which stands in my name, is a probing amendment, as I wish to ascertain the Governme...

David Davis | 604 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend is exactly right, for two reasons. First, many fitness supplements and other...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

I could not put it better myself. That is what concerns me about the Bill. The point was made tha...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1451 (Link to this contribution)

Does not the right hon. Lady think that if we treat these nootropic drugs differently from all th...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 cc1451-2 (Link to this contribution)

I do not think that putting them on the exempted list means that anybody should draw the conclusi...

Keith Vaz | 604 cc1452-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Chesham and Amersham (Mrs Gillan), who is on...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1453 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend says that the name “legal highs” attracts people to the drugs. Does he not t...

Keith Vaz | 604 c1453 (Link to this contribution)

They may well do, but we are not going to call them “illegal highs”. The Bill does not seek to ch...

Crispin Blunt | 604 c1453 (Link to this contribution)

If I get called, I will speak in support of the right hon. Gentleman’s excellent Committee’s repo...

Keith Vaz | 604 c1454 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right and he brings me on to the issue of alkyl nitrites. The sh...

Andrew Gwynne | 604 c1454 (Link to this contribution)

Having served on the Bill Committee alongside my hon. Friend the Member for West Ham (Lyn Brown),...

Keith Vaz | 604 cc1454-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for that information. I wonder whether they are still in use around the Ca...

Natascha Engel | 604 c1455 (Link to this contribution)

Order. Quite a large number of Members still want to speak. At this rate, if Members go over 10 m...

Crispin Blunt | 604 cc1455-6 (Link to this contribution)

I will be very brief, Madam Deputy Speaker.

It is a pleasure to follow the Chairman of the ...

David Burrowes | 604 c1456 (Link to this contribution)

It is right to focus on supply, which is the focus of the Bill. It is important to give the clear...

Crispin Blunt | 604 c1456 (Link to this contribution)

I know that my hon. Friend has done a significant amount of work on this and that he, too, has be...

David Davis | 604 c1456 (Link to this contribution)

Supply does seem to me to be a very grey area. I understand that the policy is not intended to vi...

Crispin Blunt | 604 c1457 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed. I suppose I have advertised the fact that I may be vulnerable to that. I therefore plead ...

Jim Shannon | 604 cc1457-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am not alone in having a constituency that has been blighted by the use of legal highs. I do no...

James Berry | 604 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that in Ireland, after the introduction of legislation very similar t...

Jim Shannon | 604 c1458 (Link to this contribution)

I mentioned the closure of the head shops, which is really good news—good stuff. I also referred ...

Mike Freer | 604 cc1458-1461 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the shadow Minister for a balanced speech that contained some well-judged comments. I als...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 c1460 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I have to beg to move the amendments that stand in my name. If I have not to beg, I ...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 cc1460-2 (Link to this contribution)

Oh, I am speaking to them and not begging at all. I wish to speak to the amendments that stand in...

Victoria Atkins | 604 c1462 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Lady knows that the situation she has just described in which youths plac...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 c1462 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding was that we were trying not to mirror the Misuse of Drugs Act. We have moved on,...

Victoria Atkins | 604 c1462 (Link to this contribution)

Surely the point is to introduce clarity to the young people that the hon. Lady is describing. Ec...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

I am not arguing that we should not be discouraging young people in that way. I am arguing that i...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1463 (Link to this contribution)

Following the arguments being put forward from the other side, does the hon. Lady agree that the ...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 cc1463-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman would not expect me to disagree about the considerable harm that tobacco and a...

Natascha Engel | 604 c1464 (Link to this contribution)

There are no time limits in this debate but many Members want to speak and the list is getting lo...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 cc1464-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will move on, then. I will take out all my killer arguments and bring them up when the Minister...

Dan Poulter | 604 c1465 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to new clause 3. First, though, I welcome the constructive approach taken by my rig...

Steve Brine | 604 c1465 (Link to this contribution)

I support my hon. Friend. Does he agree that the momentum is with his case? The all-party group o...

Dan Poulter | 604 cc1465-7 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is right.

I shall speak, first, about the barriers to mental health research...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 c1467 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend also agree that there is a real anomaly when a drug such as DNP, which has ca...

Dan Poulter | 604 c1467 (Link to this contribution)

My right hon. Friend speaks wisely. On that subject, looking at the scheduling, steroids come und...

Diana Johnson | 604 cc1467-9 (Link to this contribution)

I rise in support of new clause 1 and amendment 4. I start by congratulating my hon. Friend the M...

David Burrowes | 604 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North (Diana Johnson). Much of ...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1469 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

David Burrowes | 604 cc1469-1470 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make some progress.

Let me focus on education, because it is important to ensure ...

Mike Penning | 604 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

In case I forget this point in my later comments, perhaps this is an opportune moment to say from...

David Burrowes | 604 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

That speaks directly to amendment 4, which was also tabled in Committee. That is in effect what t...

Paul Flynn | 604 c1470 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman tell us what attention the Committee gave to the fact that the only two c...

David Burrowes | 604 cc1470-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am not convinced by the hon. Gentleman’s premise. We consistently disagree on drugs policy. The...

Andrew Gwynne | 604 cc1472-3 (Link to this contribution)

I support the Bill and its aims. Indeed, I wound up the Second Reading debate in the Chamber beca...

Norman Lamb | 604 cc1473-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for calling me slightly earlier than I expected.

I speak in s...

Anne Main | 604 c1474 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Norman Lamb | 604 cc1474-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will not, because I am conscious that time is very tight, and I do not want to get into trouble...

Johnny Mercer | 604 c1475 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to express my broad support for what the Government are trying to do. This is a major issu...

Paul Flynn | 604 cc1475-6 (Link to this contribution)

Before I start, may I point out one major error? A picture of me has been widely retweeted by Mem...

Rachael Maskell | 604 c1476 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be brief.

I wish to emphasise that although so many elements of the Bill are import...

Owen Thompson | 604 cc1476-7 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, will be brief.

First, I wish to thank the other members of the Bill Committee. This...

Mike Penning | 604 cc1477-8 (Link to this contribution)

It has been said several times that perhaps this Bill should have been introduced a lot earlier—m...

Mike Penning | 604 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way, but I will not do it too much, because we want to get on to the next group of am...

Gerald Jones | 604 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

What lessons does the Minister think we can learn from the Welsh schools liaison programme, which...

Mike Penning | 604 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

With devolution, different Governments in different parts of this great nation are delivering pro...

Mike Penning | 604 c1478 (Link to this contribution)

Let me make some progress. If I have time, I will come back to the right hon. Gentleman.

I ...

Mike Penning | 604 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

No, I want to make some progress if I can, but I will come back if I have some time.

Last n...

Cheryl Gillan | 604 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

In that case, will the Minister ensure that he writes to me about the substances listed in my ame...

Mike Penning | 604 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

I am more than happy to write to my right hon. Friend with those assurances, so long as we know e...

Mike Penning | 604 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman, but then I will curtail my comments so that the Hous...

Norman Lamb | 604 c1479 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. On the question of not wanting to criminalise young people, and in...

Mike Penning | 604 c1480 (Link to this contribution)

We need to stop these products from being available to young people, middle-aged people and old p...

Mike Penning | 604 cc1480-1 (Link to this contribution)

I will not give way again.

Let me now touch on what is an important, and understandably emo...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1481 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Lindsay Hoyle | 604 c1481 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 2, in clause 6, page 3,...

Lyn Brown | 604 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

In speaking to new clause 2, I praise the work of my hon. Friend the Member for Barrow and Furnes...

Kit Malthouse | 604 c1486 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to amendments 2 and 3, which stand in my name. They deal with one small anomaly i...

Lord Walney | 604 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for any confusion, Mr Deputy Speaker. I thought that this debate would come later. I ...

Mike Penning | 604 c1487 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the House that my comments will have to be short because of the limited time avail...

Mike Penning | 604 cc1495-1501 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

This has been an experience. I ful...

Lyn Brown | 604 cc1500-2 (Link to this contribution)

Labour’s 2015 manifesto included a commitment to ban the sale and distribution of dangerous psych...

Steve Brine | 604 c1502 (Link to this contribution)

May I echo the words of both Front Benchers about what a pleasure it has been to work on this Bil...

Steve Brine | 604 cc1502-3 (Link to this contribution)

I hope the hon. Gentleman will not mind if I do not give way, because two of my colleagues wish t...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 cc1503-4 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be very brief. I wish to congratulate all those involved in bringing forward this Bill, i...

Mike Penning | 604 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

In the spirit with which we have taken the Bill through, I just wanted to say that the Bill does ...

Anne McLaughlin | 604 c1504 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that—as the Minister knows, I am against it—but I was referring specifically to buyi...

Flick Drummond | 604 cc1504-5 (Link to this contribution)

I know that time is limited so I shall be very quick. I am absolutely delighted with this Bill. I...

Jim Shannon | 604 c1505 (Link to this contribution)

Mr Speaker, may I ask what time will be left for the hon. Members who will follow me?

John Bercow | 604 c1505 (Link to this contribution)

It is very good of the hon. Gentleman to pursue a bit of information. The answer is that the deba...

Jim Shannon | 604 cc1505-6 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I want to be fair, which is why I asked that question.

I am very ple...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 604 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

For too long, we have seen shops such as Skunkworks proliferate on our high streets, with their n...

John Bercow | 604 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I hope that the hon. Gentleman is going to leave time for the hon. Member for Newport West...

Lord Mackinlay of Richborough | 604 c1506 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I am, Mr Speaker.

By its very intent, the blanket ban must be so, or else we will just...

Paul Flynn | 604 cc1506-7 (Link to this contribution)

Evidence-free and prejudice-rich, this Bill will do harm. It is evidence-free because the House h...

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