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Armed Forces Bill

Committee stage. Programme motion (No. 2) agreed to. Clauses 1 to 20 agreed to, with clause 19 agreed to as amended. Government new clause 1 (War pensions committees and armed and reserve forces compensation schemes) agreed to. New clause 2 (Voluntary discharge of under-18s), discussed with new clause 3 (Enlistment of minors), debated and withdrawn. New clause 5 (Requirement to publish statistics on sexual assault and rape), discussed with new clause 6 (Removal of commanding officer's discretion to investigate allegations of sexual assault), debated and withdrawn. New clause 8 (Review of compensation available to veterans suffering from mesothelioma), debated and withdrawn. New clause 9 (Homosexual acts no longer to constitute grounds for discharging a member of HM armed forces (No. 2)), debated and withdrawn. Bill, as amended, reported (Bill 111).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

603 cc1597-1632 

Session

2015-16

Department

Ministry of Defence

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Armed Forces Bill 2015-16
Wednesday, 16 September 2015
Bills
House of Commons
Armed Forces Bill 2015‑16
Friday, 11 December 2015
Research briefings
Armed Forces Bill 2015.
Wednesday, 18 November 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons
Armed Forces Bill 2015.
Tuesday, 24 November 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Commons

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Armed Forces Bill 2015-16. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Wednesday, 16 December 2015
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1600 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Bone.

The primary purpose of the Bill...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1600 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Bone.

I think this is my third Armed ...


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Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1600 (Link to this contribution)

The SNP fully supports the Bill. We appreciate the requirement that Parliament’s consent is given...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

Currently, a commanding officer may only require a member of the armed forces, or a civilian subj...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

We support clause 2. As the Minister has outlined, it brings into line the legislation that cover...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

It is appropriate to enable commanding officers to require testing for drugs and/or alcohol after...

Peter Bone | 603 c1601 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider clauses 4 and 5.

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1601-2 (Link to this contribution)

Clauses 3 to 5 relate to investigations and charging. They make a number of changes to provisions...

Peter Bone | 603 c1602 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify, we are debating clauses 3, 4 and 5 together if any Member wants to speak on them...

Jim Shannon | 603 cc1602-3 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Bone, for clarifying the process. I have put this all together, if the Minister cou...

Peter Bone | 603 c1603 (Link to this contribution)

Because it is coming towards Christmas, we let the hon. Gentleman go back slightly to clause 2. [...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1603-4 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Bone. I will aim not to go backwards or forwards.

We support these common sen...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1604 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Bone, for allowing me to go back, very briefly, to clause 2.

The new powers i...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1604 (Link to this contribution)

The clause increases from 12 to 24 months the maximum period for which the sentence of service de...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1605 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I think these are sensible proposals that give courts martial the flexibility to award sus...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1605 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you, Mr Bone.

For the convenience of the Committee, I shall discuss together clauses ...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1605 (Link to this contribution)

I have one quick question for the Minister. He mentioned contacting the devolved Administrations,...

John Howell | 603 c1605 (Link to this contribution)

As a member of the Select Committee, let me add that when we looked into these provisions and int...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1606 (Link to this contribution)

With the assurance that the Attorney General will be consulted only in very rare cases—I am not s...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1606 (Link to this contribution)

I agree with the hon. Gentleman; it is anticipated that the provisions will be used only on very ...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1606 (Link to this contribution)

The clause and schedule provide for the Armed Forces Act 2006, as it currently has effect in the ...

Jim Shannon | 603 cc1606-7 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the Minister’s commitment to ensuring that the 2006 Act will come into force in the Isl...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1607 (Link to this contribution)

We support clause 13 and the accompanying schedule. It makes sense to extend the Act to the overs...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1607 (Link to this contribution)

Let me deal first with the question of Gibraltar. I can tell the hon. Member for Strangford that ...

Peter Bone | 603 c1607 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss clause 15 stand part.

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Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1607-8 (Link to this contribution)

These clauses give MOD firefighters the same powers to act in emergencies as employees of civilia...

Bob Stewart | 603 c1608 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the Minister for clarification? If an MOD firefighter is on a base and sees a farm, say...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1608 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that, but protocols are in place between MOD firefighters and local fire authoriti...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1608 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister referred to the legal protections that are provided. Is insurance protection provide...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1608 (Link to this contribution)

We appreciate the work of MOD and other firefighters. It is important that we have in mind some o...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1608 (Link to this contribution)

Again, this is a practical and sensible measure that closes a loophole that exists at present. Ag...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1609 (Link to this contribution)

Simply to answer the question from the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon), we will of cours...

Peter Bone | 603 c1609 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Clause 17 stand part.

Claus...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1609-1610 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be able to speak to these amendments today. New clause 1 acknowledges the impor...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1610 (Link to this contribution)

We welcome all progress in supporting our military veterans, and we are supportive of this measur...

John Howell | 603 c1610 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to intervene on the substance of this debate, but since this is the last grouping o...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1610 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the comments that the Minister has made on this subject. I am keen to see the full impl...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1611 (Link to this contribution)

I echo the comments of the hon. Member for Henley (John Howell) about the work of the Chair of th...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1611 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for North Durham is right, as he so often is. I am well aware that those people a...

Liz Saville Roberts | 603 c1613 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, that the clause be read a Second time.

Peter Bone | 603 c1613 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 3—Enlistment of minors...

Liz Saville Roberts | 603 cc1613-5 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to new clauses 2 and 3, which stand in my name and those of several hon. Members ...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1615 (Link to this contribution)

Has the hon. Lady visited the Army Foundation College at Harrogate? If not, may I invite her to d...

Liz Saville Roberts | 603 c1615 (Link to this contribution)

I have not visited the college, but I would be delighted to do so. My background is in further ed...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1615 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to endorse the status quo. I am sorry that I cannot agree with the new clauses proposed by...

Conor McGinn | 603 cc1615-6 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd (Liz Saville Roberts) spoke eloquently and sincerely, but ...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1616 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd (Liz Saville Roberts) makes her points regarding service p...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1616-7 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Dwyfor Meirionnydd (Liz Saville Roberts) rightly raises recruitment to the ar...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1617-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be joined by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Policing, Crime and Criminal...

Liz Saville Roberts | 603 c1619 (Link to this contribution)

I thank everybody who has taken part in the debate. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the motion.

Lord Beamish | 603 c1619 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

David Crausby | 603 cc1619-1620 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss new clause 6—Removal of Commanding Officer’s discretio...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1620-1 (Link to this contribution)

It gives me great pleasure to speak to new clauses 5, 6 and 7. I apologise to members of the Comm...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1621 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to ask a question about new clause 7. I agree with the shadow Minister, who has very caref...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 cc1621-2 (Link to this contribution)

It is vital that all matters relating to allegations of or concerns about serious and complex cri...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1622-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased that the hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) has returned to these proposals and...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1625-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his reply. I was not wanting to question the independence of the militar...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1626-7 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

The new clause, which is similar to o...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1627 (Link to this contribution)

I support the view of the hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) that this matter must be dealt ...

Jim Shannon | 603 c1628 (Link to this contribution)

I endorse the comments of the shadow Minister once again. As the Minister will know, we have had ...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 603 cc1628-9 (Link to this contribution)

I commend the hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) for tabling the new clause. I wish to assoc...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 c1629 (Link to this contribution)

The new clause would impose an obligation on the Defence Secretary to instigate a review of compe...

Lord Beamish | 603 cc1629-1630 (Link to this contribution)

I think it would be rather churlish if I did not! I thank the Minister. What he has said shows hi...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1630 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

New clause 9 attempts—I referred to t...

Martin Docherty-Hughes | 603 c1630 (Link to this contribution)

I associate SNP Members with the comments of the hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones) about th...

Kirsten Oswald | 603 c1631 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with the comments of my hon. Friend. It was positive in the Select Committee to ...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 603 cc1631-2 (Link to this contribution)

I have much sympathy with the basis for this new clause. Sections 146(4) and 147(3) of the Crimin...

Lord Beamish | 603 c1632 (Link to this contribution)

What we have had today is what we had in the Select Committee: universal agreement that this is n...

Peter Bone | 603 c1605 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss clauses 8 to 12 stand part.

Peter Bone | 603 c1606 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to consider the schedule to the Bill.

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