Consumer Rights Bill

With this it will be convenient to take amendment (a) in lieu of Lords amendment 12.

I shall speak to amendment (a) tabled by the hon. Member for Hove (Mike Weatherley) and me. It gi...

Will the hon. Lady give way?

I certainly will not give way to the hon. Gentleman at this stage. I am sure that he plans to spe...

This is supposed to be a debate.

The hon. Gentleman can debate when his time comes.

The concession that the Minister offered...

Will the hon. Lady give way?

Not at the moment.

What we are asking for would not put secondary ticketing platforms out o...

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Let me make this extra clear, because that might clear up some of the points that Members are try...

I want to clarify the hon. Lady’s point about the event organiser’s right to cancel tickets. Unde...

If the ticket clearly states that it is not for resale—that it is non-transferable—then that is p...

Does the hon. Lady agree with me and the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, who has...

I agree that people should abide by terms and conditions. The fact that the lack of transparency ...

May I congratulate the hon. Lady on the diligent way in which she has approached the issue and he...

I agree with the hon. Gentleman and thank him for that valuable contribution. He is not only a cr...

May I also praise my hon. Friend’s leadership? She has done a cracking job raising the important ...

My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. If the Minister does not want to listen to him, me, Memb...

It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs Hodgson...

Can my hon. Friend throw some light on when that Culture, Media and Sport Committee investigation...

It was during the last Parliament that the Committee and the Office of Fair Trading produced thei...

Let us take the Rugby Football Union, for example. Tickets are sold at a discount to promote the ...

I fear that by using the RFU as an example my hon. Friend is rather leading with his chin. The RF...

Order. Just because we are talking about rugby does not mean we have to behave as if we are on a ...

Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. For a genuine fan who does not belong to a rugby union club but ...

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

In a moment, if the hon. Gentleman calms himself down. The only difference is that people think i...

To take the hon. Gentleman’s analogy to its logical conclusion, it would be like someone coming t...

As far as I understand, that is exactly what the son of John Prescott, the former Deputy Prime Mi...

As usual, the hon. Gentleman is making an entertaining speech. One thing that has moved on since ...

I am not saying that IT is part of the problem or part of the solution. IT is part of the real wo...

Does my hon. Friend agree that there is another problem, which is that there is nothing to stop a...

My hon. Friend makes a very good point, which drives a coach and horses through the hon. Lady’s a...

There is a more serious problem than the one my hon. Friend has just described. I do not think pe...

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. The point is that people could easily get round the law...

My hon. Friend will not take my intervention.

I have already taken an intervention from my hon. Friend. It was not a very good one, if I rememb...

I agree with the hon. Gentleman. When he buys that ticket, he becomes the owner of that ticket, a...

The hon. Gentleman has hit the nail on the head, although he is obviously much more generous than...

I do not know whether my hon. Friend has looked online recently to try to buy a ticket for the fi...

The point is this. Places such as viagogo guarantee the tickets. If someone enters into a transac...

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

I am going to press on because others want to speak.

If we stop this legitimate market, all...

It is always entertaining to follow the hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies), who puts his cas...

Does the hon. Gentleman not agree that when Paul Weller or his management team first put those ti...

Other Members know far more about this than I do, but I suspect that promoters want to promote ev...

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I will take further interventions later. Let me first describe my constituents’ experiences in re...

What that example demonstrates—Conservative Members refuse to see this for some reason—is complet...

With the benefit of her knowledge of this matter, my hon. Friend has made her point extremely wel...

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I must move on, as other Members want to speak.

Points made by Members on both sides of the...

While the speech by my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) was thoroughly entertai...

How?

I will explain that to my hon. Friend in a moment, and I shall be happy to take interventions lat...

indicated assent.

indicated assent.

My hon. Friends are nodding away, which is great, but that is a mistaken point of view. On taking...

May I ask a question on an intervention? My hon. Friend has said they are taking money away, but ...

That is a very good intervention as I have the answer in the very next sentence of my speech.

I want to reiterate that point. Most bands nowadays have to sell merchandise to survive because v...

Absolutely, and there is no doubt that merchandising plays a significant part in allowing bands t...

The hon. Gentleman is making a very powerful point, which I recognise from my experience of touri...

I thank the hon. Gentleman, and I would like to thank him for his contributions over the years; w...

The list of those that support this which my hon. Friend rattled off were, from what I could tell...

I am so glad my hon. Friend intervened because I would like to quote back to him some things he s...

Will my hon. Friend give way?

I have one more quote, but I will give way.

I am sorry to urinate on my hon. Friend’s bonfire, but the point is that if I buy a ticket for th...

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Order. We should be more gracious to each other. I am frightened that we might undermine that, an...

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was just trying to point out that we ask for transparency in almo...

It is a pleasure to follow my fellow co-chair of the all-party parliamentary group on music, the ...

It was tickets for the Take That reunion tour that garnered my interest in this topic. I want to ...

I think my hon. Friend might be over-egging the pudding a bit, but I am always grateful when peop...

I had exactly the same experience, albeit not with Foo Fighters. I was trying to get tickets for ...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right.

This is not a free market; it is what I call a con mark...

Let me take the hon. Gentleman back to the discussions about the ticket from Lord’s. I am torn on...

Therein lies a problem, because sometimes the tickets being sold are not even proper tickets—some...

Would my hon. Friend like to say something about venues? I understand that millions of pounds are...

My hon. Friend makes a good point. I like to think that the small venues are for new bands—people...

The hon. Gentleman is making a fine speech and covering a range of new issues. One thing we have ...

The hon. Gentleman is right about that. I have met various promoters for T in the Park and they h...

The hon. Gentleman is right that some things should be illegal, but I can reassure him that where...

I appreciate what the right hon. Gentleman is saying, but what is the difference between that per...

It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Glasgow North West (John Robertson). He makes his ...

The hon. Member for Glasgow North West seemed to suggest that my hon. Friend and I were arguing o...

No, it is not. Let us be clear that a lot of these organisations are quite capable of looking aft...

The information that the hon. Gentleman has just read out would surely be available at the point ...

The difference is the name of the vendor, the booking reference and all that, which are not there...

My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech, but he seems to be slightly behind the current argu...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. When those arguments were put forward by my...

That is absolutely right.

So we have to sell the tickets cheap so that people can be conned into paying over the odds for t...

That is utter rubbish and so not true. People involved in cricket, rugby, tennis and music have w...

Interestingly, I was happy to give way to the hon. Lady, but she did not give way when I wanted t...

Order. All Members are doing is holding up the debate.

If those organisations want to ensure that the tickets are being used by the clubs, that is for t...

My experience of the RFU at Twickenham is that rugby tickets are given out on allocation and requ...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. He has just described one way in which the...

I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs Hodgson) for h...

I want to take the hon. Gentleman back to his point about the website selling tickets for £8,000 ...

If they can afford £8,000 for a ticket, I do not think they need my sympathy. The point is that w...

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I am answering the hon. Gentleman’s point and he can come back to me on it in a minute, although ...

We have heard a lot about the £500 tickets to go to a particular day of the Lord’s test against A...

I am delighted that those tickets are on sale at very sensible prices, which is why I am in the C...

To return to the question of the RFU, it is well known by the local grass-roots rugby clubs that ...

The point is that the governing body of the sport wants that information so that it can police it...

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I am not going to give way again, because I want to end my remarks.

I have one question for...

I came late to this debate and picked up on some interesting arguments being put by Members on bo...

It has been a year since we started to scrutinise the Bill, time during which much has changed, n...

I am delighted to speak on the Bill for the first time—a Bill whose development and gestation too...

Will the Minister clarify two things? First, does she think that the amendment applies to individ...

I recognise the attempts made in that amendment, although they do not address all the difficultie...

When I asked the hon. Member for Washington and Sunderland West (Mrs Hodgson) in what circumstanc...

I thank the right hon. Gentleman for making that point.

This proposal is in no way about making 14-year-olds vulnerable online if they want to sell their...

I thank the hon. Lady for her intervention. I appreciate that her intention might not be to force...

The Minister says that the amendment is too prescriptive. Does she not recognise that the interne...

I will come to enforcement, because I accept that there are issues that need to be looked at, but...

It is interesting that the Minister raises the EU directive, which talks about the importance of ...

Much of this information already has to be provided under the consumer contracts regulations, and...

We have had a wide-ranging debate. If we were to apply the law of averages to the question of whi...

I beg to move, That this House agrees with Lords amendment 1.

With this we may take Lords amendments 2 to 11 and 13 to 78.

I am delighted that we are bringing the Bill back to the House in such good shape. There was a go...

In the short time available let me say that I think we are looking at a form of alternative dispu...

I thank the hon. Lady for her comments. She had some well-crafted lines and I disagree with her f...