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Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 15 February 2012, in the House of Lords.
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Lords committee stage tenth day. Clauses 122 to 137 agreed to, with clauses 124, 130, 131, 135 agreed as amended. Schedules 21 and 22 agreed to as amended. Schedule 23 agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 129).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

735 c864-922 

Session

2010-12

Department

Ministry of Justice

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c874 (Link to this contribution) I—
Lord McNally | 735 c874 (Link to this contribution) I knew that the noble Lord would get to his feet but it is true.

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Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c874 (Link to this contribution) I do not in any way disparage civil servants in what they are required to do. I simply point out tha...
Lord McNally | 735 c874-6 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to have that on the record. Their own job includes some of the issues that we are dis...
Lord Beecham | 735 c877-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a probing suggestion that the clause should not stand part of the Bill. It relates...
Baroness Northover | 735 c880-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this clause gives effect to Schedule 20, which amends the PND—penalty notice for disorderl...
Baroness Northover | 735 c881-2 (Link to this contribution) In terms of review, the Government’s position is always to keep legislation under review and to take...
Lord Beecham | 735 c881 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her response and the information that she has given. I still...
Lord Beecham | 735 c882 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the time, happily this is a short amendment. The Police and Criminal Evidence Act 19...
Lord Beecham | 735 c882 (Link to this contribution) 185A: Clause 124, page 106, line 12, at end insert— ““(6A) Within three years of the commencement of...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 735 c864-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, 19 years ago I was proud to make my maiden speech on women in the criminal justice system....
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 735 c864 (Link to this contribution) 182A: After Clause 120, insert the following new Clause— ““Women’s Justice Strategy Commission (1) T...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c870-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have spoken on this issue on a number of previous occasions. I particularly recall the m...
Baroness Hamwee | 735 c868-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I added my name to the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Gould, because I wanted my no...
Baroness Stern | 735 c869-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the aims of these amendments. In my view the issue of women in prison is one of ...
Lord McNally | 735 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Gould, in a debate. I can only ...
Lord Bach | 735 c872-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a short but very important debate, and I commend all those who have spoken s...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 735 c872 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to add my very brief words in support of these two proposals. Indeed, I hope very m...
Lord Woolf | 735 c871-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to add to what has already been said. I hope that I do not impose upon my colle...
Baroness Northover | 735 c883 (Link to this contribution) 185C: Clause 124, page 107, line 36, after ““instrument”” insert ““(whenever passed or made)”” 185...
Baroness Northover | 735 c883 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 185C, 185D and 185E. These are minor and technical amendm...
Lord Beecham | 735 c883 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not going to divide a thinly attended House at this hour of the night on this issue. ...
Baroness Northover | 735 c882-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, how very kind of the noble Lord. Youth cautions are specifically designed for young offend...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 735 c896 (Link to this contribution) 186: Clause 128, page 109, leave out lines 6 to 19
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 735 c896-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 186 and 187 which relate to Clause 128 of the Bill, which seek...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c898-900 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments moved so well by the noble Baroness, Lady Linklater, but I would ...
Lord Bach | 735 c900 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, knife crime has been a scourge on communities throughout Britain. I think my party, when i...
Lord McNally | 735 c904 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the point of creating this offence is that the Government want to send a clear message to ...
Lord McNally | 735 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we believe that currently there is no offence that specifically targets the behaviour cove...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 735 c901-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened with interest and not a great deal of surprise to what my noble friend said. We...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c902 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will not press the point now, but I shall certainly return to it. Clause 128 agreed. A...
Lord McNally | 735 c902-4 (Link to this contribution) 187ZA: Before Schedule 22, insert the following new Schedule— ““Rehabilitation of Offenders: consequ...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 735 c905 (Link to this contribution) 188: Clause 130, page 111, line 39, at end insert— ““( ) The offence is not committed where the buil...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 735 c905-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I realise the hour, but I will need to detain the Committee for some time on this clause b...
Lord McNally | 735 c904 (Link to this contribution) Oh! I have jumped a group. Sorry. I hope I did not shock my noble friend Lady Miller. Amendments 18...
Lord McNally | 735 c904-5 (Link to this contribution) 187C: Schedule 22, page 230, line 10, leave out ““139AA”” and insert ““139AA(7)”” 187D: Schedule 2...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 735 c912 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I warmly thank those who have spoken in this debate tonight. I thought that the quote from...
Lord Bach | 735 c909-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Committee owes a debt of thanks to the noble Baroness, Lady Miller, for having brought...
Lord McNally | 735 c911-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, beware the caveat about being sorely tempted to support the amendment. We will wait until ...
Baroness Stern | 735 c908 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to speak in support of the amendment which has been moved so ably by the no...
Lord Judd | 735 c908-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness on having put this issue before the Committee. I am not ...
Lord McNally | 735 c887-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we now turn to a group of amendments which include the reform of the Rehabilitation of Off...
Baroness Northover | 735 c883 (Link to this contribution) 185E: Schedule 21, page 228, line 21, at end insert— ““Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measur...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c892-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Government on the amendments that they are introducing into the Bill, which are t...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c893-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support the government amendments that have been tabled and echo the many warm ...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c890 (Link to this contribution) 185FA: After Clause 127, line 7, leave out ““forty-eight months”” and insert ““10 years””
Lord Dholakia | 735 c890-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendments 185FA to 185FD would amend government Amendment 185F. I very much welcome t...
Lord McNally | 735 c894 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in introducing this series of amendments, I covered our responses to the questions. Perhap...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c894 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister, particularly for his last comment, which is much appreciate...
Lord McNally | 735 c916 (Link to this contribution) 195ZA: Clause 135, page 114, line 3, after ““59(2)),”” insert— ““( ) sections (No rehabilitation for...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 735 c915-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister. I pay tribute to him for the way in which he has dealt...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c916-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be as brief as I can at this time of night. I begin with two wishes and a disappoi...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c916 (Link to this contribution) 196A: Clause 137, page 114, line 21, leave out ““Punishment”” and insert ““Rehabilitation””
Lord McNally | 735 c912-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are consequential amendments to debates that we have already had. Clause 130 creates...
Lord McNally | 735 c912 (Link to this contribution) 188A: Clause 130, page 112, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) In section 17 of the Police and Criminal E...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 735 c913 (Link to this contribution) 189: After Clause 131, insert the following new Clause— ““Amendment to the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 1...
Lord McNally | 735 c913 (Link to this contribution) 188B: Clause 131, page 112, line 29, at end insert— ““( ) Paragraph 27 of Schedule 27 to the Crimina...
Lord Henley | 735 c914-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lord, Lord Faulkner, for introducing this amendment to highlight th...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 735 c914 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move Amendment 189 not with the purpose of having a lengthy debate on scrap metal theft ...
Lord Bach | 735 c920 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have one question: why was the Bill's Title changed?
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 735 c919-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly always wish to join my noble friend Lord Ramsbotham in his belief that rehabil...
Lord Judd | 735 c918-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support this amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. As we come to the en...
Lord McNally | 735 c922 (Link to this contribution) 198: Long Title, line 9, after ““cautions;”” insert ““to make provision about the rehabilitation of ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c921-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was going to say how pleased I was that the noble Lord had recognised that I commended h...
Lord McNally | 735 c920 (Link to this contribution) It was decided that this was more descriptive of what the Bill was intended to do. I also draw the a...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 735 c876-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I was fascinated to hear about the many things that...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c866-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Gould, said, it is a great pity that the position of women in ...
Baroness Northover | 735 c883 (Link to this contribution) 185B: Clause 124, page 107, line 29, after ““instrument”” insert ““(whenever passed or made)””
Lord McNally | 735 c894-6 (Link to this contribution) 185G: After Clause 127, insert the following new Clause— ““No rehabilitation for certain immigration...
Lord McNally | 735 c904 (Link to this contribution) 187B: Schedule 22, page 230, line 8, leave out ““1A”” and insert ““1A(5)””
Lord McNally | 735 c884-7 (Link to this contribution) 185F: After Clause 127, insert the following new Clause— ““CHAPTER 7A Rehabilitation of offenders Es...
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