Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 84 to 111, 113 to 120 agreed to, with clauses 88, 92, 95 to 97, 99 to 104, 117, 120 agreed to as amended. Clause 112 disagreed. Schedules 11 to 15 agreed to as amended. Schedules 16 to 19 agreed to.
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Lord McNally | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree. That is why I said in my opening remarks that I am proud that this House has been ...
Lord McNally | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
Some future Government may well bring forward a proposal along those lines. The judgment of the Gove...
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Lord Pannick | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
On public confidence, which the Minister rightly emphasised is so important in this area, why does h...
Lord McNally | 735 c399 (Link to this contribution)
When I read the football results on a Saturday night and Blackpool have won four-three, I am not int...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c398 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, the Minister was tempting fate, but I am very grateful to him. We said that it was by the very ...
Lord McNally | 735 c397-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, referred to the unanimity of view in the House during this d...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c397 (Link to this contribution)
That ignores the function of the Parole Board, which has the discretion, not the Minister.
Lord Beecham | 735 c397 (Link to this contribution)
That is precisely my point. The amendment rightly envisages a duty to refer to the Parole Board, but...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 735 c396 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I briefly add my support to the amendment of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd. As ha...
Lord Beecham | 735 c396-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is certainly a unanimity of view in the debate thus far that the present system is n...
Lord Borrie | 735 c395 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a natural sympathy with the amendment proposed by the noble and learned Lord. I was...
Lord Pannick | 735 c394 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, support the amendment, for all the reasons that have been given. It is surely inhu...
Baroness Prashar | 735 c396 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. As the former chairman of the Parole Board, I agree with most of ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c395-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble and learned friend Lord Lloyd on this excellently moved amendment and p...
Baroness Mallalieu | 735 c393-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. I do so in part having been around prisons in Hong Kong some year...
Bishop of Chichester | 735 c392 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it will not surprise you that I wholeheartedly support the amendment. I am very grateful t...
Baroness Stern | 735 c392-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment and endorse the excellent speeches made by all those who have spok...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c389-90 (Link to this contribution)
178A: Before Clause 113, insert the following new Clause—
““Duty to release certain prisoners servin...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c390-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is one of three amendments in my name in this chapter of the Bill. They are grouped s...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c391 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome every word that has been said to justify this amendment. It is altogether imposs...
Lord Judd | 735 c391-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was very glad to add my name to this amendment. I have the utmost respect for the noble ...
Lord McNally | 735 c389 (Link to this contribution)
178ZV: Before Clause 113, insert the following new Clause—
““Simplification of existing transitional...
Lord McNally | 735 c389 (Link to this contribution)
178ZU: Schedule 15, page 208, line 4, at end insert—
““( ) Section (Replacement of transitory provis...
Lord McNally | 735 c388-9 (Link to this contribution)
178ZT: After Clause 108, insert the following new Clause—
““Replacement of transitory provisions
(1)...
Lord McNally | 735 c388 (Link to this contribution)
178ZQ: Clause 104, page 82, line 12, after ““91”” insert ““or 96””
178ZR: Clause 104, page 82, lin...
Lord McNally | 735 c385-6 (Link to this contribution)
178ZH: Clause 101, page 79, line 28, leave out ““, (11)””
Amendment 178ZH agreed.
Clause 101, as a...
Lord McNally | 735 c386 (Link to this contribution)
178ZJ: Clause 102, page 80, line 39, at end insert—
““( ) In section 305(1A) (modification of refere...
Lord Beecham | 735 c385 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome the clarification that this range of amendments brings about. I am particularly ...
Lord McNally | 735 c385 (Link to this contribution)
178ZD: Clause 100, page 78, leave out lines 17 to 20
178ZE: Clause 100, page 78, line 22, after ““...
Lord McNally | 735 c387-8 (Link to this contribution)
178ZP: Schedule 14, page 205, line 27, at end insert—
““Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 (c. 53)
1 In...
Lord McNally | 735 c386-7 (Link to this contribution)
178ZL: Schedule 13, page 205, line 25, at end insert—
““Part 2
Other amendments
Criminal Appeal Act ...
Lord McNally | 735 c387 (Link to this contribution)
178ZM: Clause 103, page 81, line 12, leave out from ““months”” to end of line 14
178ZN: Clause 103...
Baroness Northover | 735 c384-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this package of amendments will give effect to the second stage of the Government’s approa...
Baroness Northover | 735 c384 (Link to this contribution)
178ZC: Clause 100, page 77, line 12, leave out ““committed on or after 4th April 2005””
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
I hesitate to interrupt my noble friend who I know will say that in the spirit of what he said earli...
Lord McNally | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
That perhaps is why my noble friend is on the Back Benches rather than enjoying the pleasures of coa...
Lord Beecham | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister should seek treatment for this condition of confusion.
Lord McNally | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
I asked for the House of Commons Hansard for 1 November. I could have picked quite a few but I shall...
Lord Beecham | 735 c449 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in replying to the debate on the last group of amendments, the Minister spoke of his resid...
Lord McNally | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is very difficult debating against the noble Lord, Lord Beecham. He is such a reasonabl...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c448 (Link to this contribution)
I find myself in complete agreement with the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd. As far as this clau...
Baroness Stern | 735 c448-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall add a few remarks to the chorus of disapproval. I welcome the noble and learned Lo...
Baroness Mallalieu | 735 c447 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the noble and learned Lord. ““Pointless”” is a very good description of Clause 1...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 735 c447-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, support what has been said by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, and I agree ...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c446-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I say at once that Clause 114 seems to be wholly pointless. The only explanation for it th...
Lord McNally | 735 c444 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think so, my Lords. I do not think that it would be sensible to go into such targetry. We a...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c444 (Link to this contribution)
Is the group that the noble Lord mentioned making plans for every IPP prisoner or is it drawing up g...
Lord McNally | 735 c445-6 (Link to this contribution)
I do not know the detail of how the group is managing its work, but I do know that we are bringing f...
Lord Wigley | 735 c446 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have listened carefully to the Minister but his opening remarks remain in the back of my...
Lord Goodhart | 735 c442 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, would it not be more expensive to keep in prison these people who should not be there rath...
Lord McNally | 735 c442-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, and the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, mentioned, I...
Lord Wigley | 735 c444 (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord comes to a conclusion, perhaps I may press him on one matter. He has given a l...
Lord Beecham | 735 c441-2 (Link to this contribution)
I share that view. I had hoped that I had made it clear that I think the previous Government did not...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c441 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord who is pointing out all sorts of difficulties. I am bound to say tha...
Lord Beecham | 735 c439-41 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is quite clear that more people are serving longer sentences under the system introduce...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c432-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I spoke about this matter at Second Reading and have great sympathy with the sentiment beh...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c430-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and I am particularly grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Tho...
Lord Wigley | 735 c431 (Link to this contribution)
179: After Clause 113, insert the following new Clause—
““Abolition of certain sentences for dangero...
Lord Goodhart | 735 c438-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was not involved in criminal law during my practice as a barrister, but I became very in...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c439 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the real scandal is that IPP sentences have gone on for so long. The previous Government h...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c433-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have Amendment 179ZA in this group. The Minister can surely take pride in the abolition ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c435-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I entirely agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, said about congratulating the Gove...
Lord McNally | 735 c429-30 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for those comments. I approach any discussions on Schedule 21 ...
Lord Beecham | 735 c429 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Front Benches are occupied by somebody from the lowest levels of the legal profession ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c428-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, lest there should seem to be unanimity on these Benches, I support the noble and learned L...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c401 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. The views of the House today could not really...
Lord McNally | 735 c401 (Link to this contribution)
I hate to intervene, especially in the middle of a tribute being paid to a Bishop, but I wonder whet...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c401 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. In a sense, that is the only point that the Minister has made, to which the answer surely is...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c425 (Link to this contribution)
178B: Before Clause 113, insert the following new Clause—
““Effect of life sentence
In Chapter 7 of ...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c425-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment also concerns an innovation introduced by the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Pr...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 735 c427-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as has already been said by others, this House should always listen with great respect and...
Lord Blair of Boughton | 735 c428 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am probably the only person currently in the House who has actually carried out murder i...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right honourable and learned gentleman—sorry, whatever you are.
Lord McNally | 735 c401 (Link to this contribution)
From William Wilberforce to Sydney Silverman campaigns have been fought, and fought successfully. I ...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister not envisage that the public can sometimes be wrong? There is sometimes a disconne...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c451 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the LOCs can have the chance to deal with this question. Has any analysis been carried out a...
Lord McNally | 735 c450-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that my noble friend’s comments will be noted in the proper places, particularly at reshuf...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 735 c450 (Link to this contribution)
What is that supposed to mean?
Lord McNally | 735 c452 (Link to this contribution)
When is the noble Lord going to go down the corridor and talk to Sadiq Khan and the other spokesmen ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c451 (Link to this contribution)
That is not what it says, as I understand it—perhaps the LOCs can help him.
Lord McNally | 735 c451 (Link to this contribution)
As far as I understand it, the second serious offence would carry a life sentence.
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c451 (Link to this contribution)
That is not quite the point that I am making. It may be that only 20 people would be sentenced to li...
Lord McNally | 735 c451 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, an impact assessment was made and I think they were talking about 20 cases a year.
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 735 c452 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for the support of those who have spoken, particularly the noble Baroness, L...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c466 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I can assure my noble friend the Minister that this is a reasonable amendment from a reaso...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c465 (Link to this contribution)
179BA: Clause 116, page 95, line 40, leave out ““two-thirds”” and insert ““half””
Lord McNally | 735 c467-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may clarify the point raised by my noble friend Lord Dholakia. The two-thirds re...
Lord Beecham | 735 c466-7 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister could indicate what assessment has been made of the effect of the new extended ...
Lord McNally | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
It relates to the overall package and, in that wonderful save-all term, the long term. As we are alr...
Lord Beecham | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, on a point of clarification, the Minister referred to the impact assessment disclosing tha...
Lord McNally | 735 c470-1 (Link to this contribution)
179D: Clause 117, page 96, line 8, at end insert—
““(1A) ““Discretionary release prisoner”” means—
(...
Lord McNally | 735 c470 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that. As to what I was watching on Saturday afternoon, being a gentle soul, I take...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 735 c469-70 (Link to this contribution)
Your Lordships will recall that in connection with an earlier amendment I referred to the existing t...
Lord Beecham | 735 c470 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment is perfectly sensible. Before we get to Third Reading it would perhaps be h...
Lord McNally | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
179C: Clause 117, page 96, line 3, leave out ““an IPP prisoner or an extended sentence prisoner”” an...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 735 c478-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment so eloquently introduced by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. From ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c375 (Link to this contribution)
178ZZAZA: Clause 87, Page 66, line 12, leave out ““twelve”” and insert ““fourteen””
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c375-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in speaking to the amendment and Amendments 178ZAA, 178ZAB, 178ZAC and178ZAD, I must state...
Lord Beecham | 735 c376 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is certainly desirable that electronic monitoring should be used very sparingly but the...
Lord Beecham | 735 c372-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment 178 withdrawn.
Schedule 11: Amendment o...
Lord McNally | 735 c373 (Link to this contribution)
178ZZZA: Schedule 11, Page 193, line 34, after ““enactment,”””” insert ““;
““““imprisonable offence”...
Lord McNally | 735 c373 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these are technical government amendments. I beg to move.
Amendment 178ZZZA agreed.
Amen...
Lord McNally | 735 c373-5 (Link to this contribution)
178ZZZB: Schedule 11, page 194, leave out lines 1 and 2 and insert—
““(1) Section 3 (general provisi...
Lord Beecham | 735 c371 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that the amendment allows for that, but that is a matter that perhaps might be consid...
Lord McNally | 735 c371-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, has already outraged the protocol of this House by recognisi...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 735 c370 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, is making a very diplomatic hesitation before moving an amen...
Lord Beecham | 735 c370-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, every so often a tragic incident occurs which leads to a change in social policy or, indee...
Lord Beecham | 735 c369-70 (Link to this contribution)
178: After Clause 83, insert the following new Clause—
““Right to appeal bail decisions
(1) The Bail...
Lord Beecham | 735 c370 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, every so often—
Lord McNally | 735 c381-2 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBA: Clause 95, page 74, line 20, at end insert—
““(8A) A function of the Secretary of State unde...
Lord McNally | 735 c382 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBC: Clause 96, page 74, line 37, after ““homes”” insert ““, or accommodation within section 95(2...
Lord McNally | 735 c382 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBF: Clause 97, page 75, line 28, leave out subsections (3) to (5)
Amendment 178ZBF agreed.
Cla...
Lord McNally | 735 c383 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBH: Schedule 12, page 199, line 12, at end insert—
““(5) In subsection (7), in the definition of...
Lord McNally | 735 c378-9 (Link to this contribution)
178ZAZB: Clause 88, Page 67, line 38, after second ““been”” insert ““accused or””
178ZAZC: Clause ...
Lord McNally | 735 c379 (Link to this contribution)
178ZABA: Clause 92, page 71, line 16, leave out from second ““sentence”” to end of line 25 and inser...
Baroness Northover | 735 c379 (Link to this contribution)
178ZAE: Clause 95, page 73, line 39, at end insert ““, and
(d) accommodation, or accommodation of a ...
Baroness Northover | 735 c379-81 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a substantial group of amendments, many of which are minor and technical. However,...
Lord Beecham | 735 c381 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for this group of amendments, with which we entirely concur. I am part...
Lord McNally | 735 c378 (Link to this contribution)
178ZAZA: Clause 88, Page 67, line 38, leave out from beginning to ““of””
Lord McNally | 735 c378 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a technical amendment. I beg to move.
Baroness Northover | 735 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to write to the noble Lord on that point.
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for her reply and grateful too for the intervention from the noble Bar...
Lord Beecham | 735 c378 (Link to this contribution)
It would appear that I am in some danger of becoming a repeat offender when it comes to breaching pr...
Lord McNally | 735 c378 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one of the uses of Committee is to allow noble Lords to scrutinise and to seek clarificati...
Baroness Northover | 735 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to write to the noble Baroness. Of course she is absolutely right. We know very well that...
Lord Beecham | 735 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Baroness for the information that was conveyed to her from the Box but it does not...
Baroness Northover | 735 c376-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we understand the intention behind the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and ...
Baroness Whitaker | 735 c377 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for not being here at the start of the debate. Has the Minister’s department carried out...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c452 (Link to this contribution)
I am much obliged to the noble Lord. I am totally unconvinced by the arguments put forward here, and...
Lord McNally | 735 c451-2 (Link to this contribution)
That is as I understand it, but I will write to the noble Lord if I am wrong. The other point that h...
Lord McNally | 735 c452-5 (Link to this contribution)
179A: Before Schedule 16, insert the following new Schedule—
““SCHEDULE
Amendments of the Criminal J...
Lord McNally | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
I do not have a specific number, but I will write to the noble Lord and make it available to the Hou...
Lord Beecham | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps not now, but could the Minister advise me on the implications of this amendment in terms of ...
Baroness Gale | 735 c472-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment and Amendment 180B are tabled in the names of my noble friends Lady Royall ...
Baroness Gale | 735 c471-2 (Link to this contribution)
180A: After Clause 117, insert the following new Clause—
““Disclosure of information about convictio...
Lord McNally | 735 c469 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if Clause 117 is to stand part of the Bill, Amendments 179C to 179F will ensure that the S...
Lord McNally | 735 c474-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, earlier today we gave support to Jane’s law. The noble Baroness referred to Sarah’s law. N...
Baroness Gale | 735 c475-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for his positive response, and I know that he understands that this is...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c476 (Link to this contribution)
181A: Clause 118, page 97, line 7, at end insert—
““(c) arrangements for private companies to provid...
Lord Dholakia | 735 c468 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for the explanation that he offered. The pur...
Lord McNally | 735 c490 (Link to this contribution)
182ZB: Clause 120, page 101, line 9, at end insert—
““(2A) The relevant Minister may issue a transit...
Lord McNally | 735 c492 (Link to this contribution)
182ZC: Clause 120, page 101, line 10, after ““(2)(a)”” insert ““or (2B)(a)””
182ZD: Clause 120, pa...
Lord McNally | 735 c491-2 (Link to this contribution)
On the last point, of course I can give that guarantee. I very much welcome the noble Lord as part o...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 735 c490-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am deeply sad that my appearance before the witching hour did not receive the approbatio...
Lord McNally | 735 c490 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I cannot resist commenting on the last point made by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. He i...
Lord McNally | 735 c488-9 (Link to this contribution)
Part of the problem with this debate is that we cover two areas, which we were discussing earlier. F...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 735 c489 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps the Minister would use joined-up government to do one other thing. I mentioned when I interv...
Lord McNally | 735 c487-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if the noble Lord was the head of a department of state he would not be advising me to acc...
Lord Judd | 735 c488 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord for giving way. He has been talking with a great deal of sensitivity and imag...
Lord McNally | 735 c489 (Link to this contribution)
I will gladly draw that to the attention of DWP.
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c489-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was very glad that the night shift had started so that the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, ...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 735 c486 (Link to this contribution)
I am not so much the night shift as the Welfare Reform Bill shift. Of course, the grants that the no...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 735 c487 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, knows that I cede to no one in my admiration for him. He ...
Lord McNally | 735 c486-7 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, but not instantly, and there will be a transition to the new scheme that I will explain shortly...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c476-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment is tabled in the context of something mentioned in the Green Paper that has ...
Lord McNally | 735 c479-81 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, I have had the opportunity to look at some organisati...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c481-2 (Link to this contribution)
182ZA: After Clause 118, insert the following new Clause—
““Benefits payments to prisoners
(1) Regul...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c482-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to be hogging the Floor. This amendment refers to an amendment that I have already tabled...
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 735 c483-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as has been set out very clearly, the aamendment seeks to ensure that anyone leaving custo...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 735 c492-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not intend to detain the Committee long on this. This was not so much a probing matte...
Lord McNally | 735 c383-4 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBP: Clause 99, page 76, line 35, leave out subsection (4)
178ZBQ: Clause 99, page 76, line 40,...
Lord Beecham | 735 c442 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, but the Government have, as I understand it, no real plans to deal with the 3,000 people who...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c470 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I gave notice of my intention to oppose that the clause stand part in order to be consiste...
Lord McNally | 735 c485-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is very nice to see the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, at the other side of the Dispatch ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 735 c481 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for the care that he put into his response, and in part...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c371 (Link to this contribution)
Is there any possibility of any action being taken after the judge has considered the point? In othe...
Lord McNally | 735 c382-3 (Link to this contribution)
178ZBG: After Clause 98, insert the following new Clause—
““Regulations under this Chapter
(1) Regul...
Lord Judd | 735 c400 (Link to this contribution)
In the last few minutes the Minister has encouraged me, because he has said that at some point it ma...
Lord Wigley | 735 c431-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment, tabled in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Judd, pertains to the ab...
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