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733 c723-84, 799-820

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2010-12

Deposited Paper DEP2011-2105
Monday, 19 December 2011
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Deposited Paper DEP2012-0009
Wednesday, 21 December 2011
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Constitution Select Committee (HL) eighteenth report on the Health and Social Care Bill.
Wednesday, 14 September 2011
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Nineteenth report on: Health and Social Care Bill; London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill; Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Bill. (Lords Minutes).
Friday, 14 October 2011
Parliamentary committees
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Warner | 733 c809-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is on Amendment 258. I speak as a former Minister responsible for NHS R&D in the p...

Lord Turnberg | 733 c808-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had a previous bite of this cherry when I spoke at some length in my prayer to take note...

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Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c805-6 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Earl for clarifying the position, but it is important that in the lo...

Earl Howe | 733 c805 (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord give way? I am sure the noble Lord will know that through this Bill we cannot tr...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 733 c807-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of the Human Tissue Authority, whose work is affected by th...

Lord Patel | 733 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitated to rise last time because I saw the Minister getting up, and I thought he was ...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 733 c799-800 (Link to this contribution) 258: After Clause 57, insert the following new Clause— ““The Health Research Authority (1) There sha...

Earl Howe | 733 c783 (Link to this contribution) 257A: Clause 54, page 85, line 2, at end insert— ““( ) Any function conferred on the appropriate aut...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c804-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I give very warm support to these amendments, which were so expertly introduced by the nob...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 733 c800-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move, at last, Amendment 258 and will speak to Amendments 260A, 260B and 260C, wh...

Lord Fowler | 733 c816 (Link to this contribution) I will obviously deal with that issue, because it is crucial. If the noble Lord would be as patient,...

Lord Davies of Stamford | 733 c815-6 (Link to this contribution) This is a very difficult situation and I am very much in sympathy with the noble Lord’s amendment, b...

Lord Fowler | 733 c815 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be brief. The amendment aims to remove an anomaly in the law which is both absurd a...

Lord Fowler | 733 c815 (Link to this contribution) 260E: After Clause 57, insert the following new Clause— ““Charges to overseas visitors (1) The Natio...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 733 c814 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister, as always, for his courteous and passionate reply to this debate. He...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 733 c812 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to what my noble friend is saying. However, Amendment 258 would not comprom...

Earl Howe | 733 c811-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments in this group aim to create a Health Research Authority. My noble friend ha...

Lord Beecham | 733 c810-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I come to this debate unencumbered by any particular knowledge or experience of the issues...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c810 (Link to this contribution) I have my name on the amendments about setting up the authority. In his response to the questions po...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c731 (Link to this contribution) Certainly. The Court of Appeal has a very great record in dealing with matters quickly.

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the decision of the commissioner is certainly well argued, but under the existing system i...

Lord Pannick | 733 c731 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble and learned Lord agree that if the tribunal dismisses the appeal it would then be op...

Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 733 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think we need to be clear that my noble friend Lady Thornton’s Motion is simply for this...

Lord Warner | 733 c730-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene but it is a Motion of Regret, and one element of the regret the Ho...

Lord Turnbull | 733 c728-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not involved in the earlier exchanges in this House on this issue. Coming to it new,...

Lord Clement-Jones | 733 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very interested in the argument of the noble Lord, Lord Pannick. He seemed to be sett...

Lord Pannick | 733 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the wish of the Government to appeal against the decision of the commissioner...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 733 c725-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is important to spend a moment or two explaining the purpose of a risk register. One of...

Lord Richard | 733 c734 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours for supporting my earlier rema...

Lord Martin of Springburn | 733 c732 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to what all noble Lords have said. I was interested in what the ...

Lord Martin of Springburn | 733 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) That is fine. I am learning every moment. The amendment states that, "““this House regrets the Gover...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 733 c733 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a number of Members of the House have suggested alternative ways forward. The best suggest...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c732 (Link to this contribution) I assume that if the decision was available in time for the Report stage, the House would have ample...

Lord Richard | 733 c732 (Link to this contribution) I want to ask the noble and learned Lord a question. If there is an expedited appeal and it is going...

Lord Richard | 733 c732 (Link to this contribution) What would happen if it were not available at the beginning of Report stage?

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c731 (Link to this contribution) Delay is something that the courts can control. That is one of the functions they have to try to do ...

Lord Warner | 733 c741-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 240, I shall also speak to Amendment 242 in this group in my name and ...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c742-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two amendments in this grouping and, lest I be drummed out of the Brownies, I would...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c737-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for this very illuminating and important debate, and I feel the weight...

Lord Warner | 733 c741 (Link to this contribution) 240: Clause 49, page 83, line 3, after ““review”” insert ““the cost and””

Earl Howe | 733 c735-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the House will recall, I have made clear on earlier occasions why the Government do not...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c734 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitated over whether to intervene, but I feel that I should comment as a clinician. Th...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 733 c736-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Earl said that he could not give us an idea of the timetable, but he does have something u...

Earl Howe | 733 c736 (Link to this contribution) Having anticipated that question before this debate, I made a point of asking but I am afraid that I...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c736 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister give us some times here? How long is it going to take? When does he expect to have ...

Lord Warner | 733 c748 (Link to this contribution) 244: Clause 50, page 83, line 23, at end insert ““and its integrated working with adult social care ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 733 c751-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is attached to Amendments 244 and 260DA. I want to emphasise how vital integrated ...

Baroness Murphy | 733 c754-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment because we are considering a Bill under which we are...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c743-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a number of amendments in this group which concern the duty of the Secretary of Sta...

Baroness Murphy | 733 c745-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to intervene but I have been stimulated to do so by the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Warner | 733 c747-8 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if the noble Earl could enlighten me, and indeed the House, on the story that is trailed in...

Earl Howe | 733 c746-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I have observed on earlier occasions, I believe that this Bill increases Ministers’ acc...

Lord Warner | 733 c748 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened very carefully to the Minister. I am disappointed that he cannot agree to ...

Earl Howe | 733 c748 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that story in the press was about the outcomes that the Secretary of State is proposing sh...

Lord Warner | 733 c766 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to what the Minister has said. I am not totally astounded to hea...

Earl Howe | 733 c764-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with Amendments 244 and 260DA, the noble Lord, Lord Warner, has taken us to the important ...

Lord Warner | 733 c760 (Link to this contribution) I was not doubting the enthusiasm on the Liberal Democrat Benches regarding this area. I just wanted...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c760-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a very interesting debate on this imaginative amendment from my noble friend L...

Baroness Emerton | 733 c758 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments, first, because I totally agree with them. The second reason take...

Baroness Barker | 733 c758-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of the amendment and answer the point made by the noble Lo...

Lord Warner | 733 c755-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall briefly respond to that. We should never forget that the lion's share of the money that goes...

Baroness Greengross | 733 c756-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the amendment and the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and the o...

Lord Turnberg | 733 c755 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is little doubt that one of the key elements in the delivery of a system of care whi...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c755 (Link to this contribution) I just ask the supporters of the two amendments a question—the noble Lord, Lord Warner, may be the a...

Lord Warner | 733 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we come now to Clause 53 and the proposed abolition of the Health Protection Agency. I sha...

Earl Howe | 733 c766 (Link to this contribution) 246: Schedule 4, page 294, line 33, after ““Board,”” insert— ““(hb) a subsidiary of a company which ...

Earl Howe | 733 c768 (Link to this contribution) 248C: Schedule 4, page 311, line 30, leave out ““57 to 61”” and insert ““69 to 76”” 248D: Schedule...

Earl Howe | 733 c768 (Link to this contribution) 253A: Schedule 5, page 326, line 42, leave out ““paragraphs 46 and 49”” and insert ““paragraph 46”” ...

Earl Howe | 733 c769 (Link to this contribution) 255: Schedule 5, page 351, line 2, at beginning insert ““In section 123 of”” 256: Schedule 5, page...

Lord Warner | 733 c769 (Link to this contribution) 257ZA: Clause 53, page 84, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) On the abolition of the Health Protection A...

Earl Howe | 733 c766-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this set of amendments is predominantly made up of a series of minor government amendments...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c767 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to ask one question and to make one remark. Even the Minister smiled when he...

Earl Howe | 733 c768 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in order to give the noble Baroness a proper answer on that, if she will allow me, I will ...

Earl Howe | 733 c768 (Link to this contribution) 247: Schedule 4, page 294, line 37, leave out ““(ha)”” and insert ““(hb)”” 248: Schedule 4, page 2...

Lord Turnberg | 733 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is also attached to Amendment 257ZA. I also do not like the idea that the HPA is t...

Lord Patel | 733 c771-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name has been added to Amendment 257ZA and I have tabled Amendment 260 in my own name. ...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 733 c774 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, would like to support what has been said about the HPA. It is so well thought of a...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c774-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 260, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Patel. It is probably not th...

Lord Walton of Detchant | 733 c772-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too support this amendment, although like the noble Lords, Lord Warner and Lord Turnberg...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c773-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 260, but I should like also to talk about the problem of...

Baroness Northover | 733 c778-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Warner, is right about the international status of the HPA. In many w...

Lord Turnberg | 733 c779 (Link to this contribution) Am I correct in hearing that the chairman will be the chief executive appointed by the Secretary of ...

Lord Warner | 733 c775 (Link to this contribution) I was the Minister responsible for the MHRA and very much share the noble Baroness’s views on this. ...

Baroness Northover | 733 c780 (Link to this contribution) It is proposed that the chief executive, who will be appointed in an open competition, will chair th...

Lord Patel | 733 c780 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege. Why does the Minister not think that there needs t...

Baroness Northover | 733 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) I thought that noble Lords would be delighted to hear my announcement, but I hear that they are less...

Lord Warner | 733 c781 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly bemused by what the noble Baroness has said on research. I would certainly like to kno...

Baroness Northover | 733 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I am being at all opaque. As noble Lords have said, the HPA generates income and condu...

Lord Warner | 733 c782 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to have any commercial-in-confidence information and I am sure my friends do not eithe...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 733 c782 (Link to this contribution) Can we also have the assurance that it will be eligible in the future to apply for a broad range of ...

Baroness Northover | 733 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) I hope the cameras are not shining down on this piece of paper of mine so I can try to give you some...

Lord Warner | 733 c783 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my reaction is, ““C+: Must work harder””. The noble Baroness has given some reassurances b...

Baroness Northover | 733 c819-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend Lord Fowler for the constructive way in which he has...

Lord Fowler | 733 c820 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that very sympathetic and understanding reply. We obviously under...

Lord Warner | 733 c748-51 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have deliberately grouped these two amendments so that we can have a proper debate about...

Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 733 c816-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very pleased to support the amendment. I was also very pleased to see that, in the re...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c818-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Fowler, and my noble friend Lady Gould, on their perse...

Bishop of Newcastle | 733 c818 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the amendment, and I shall be very brief. I believe that it is high tim...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c723 (Link to this contribution) At end to insert ““but that this House regrets the Government’s appeal against the Information Commi...

Baroness Thornton | 733 c724-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I move the amendment, which is for a Motion of Regret, in my name on the Order Paper. This...

Earl Howe | 733 c813-4 (Link to this contribution) I hear what my noble friend says but I cannot agree that his approach is the best for research in th...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c732 (Link to this contribution) I hope that it would be possible for the decision to be available at the beginning of Report stage.

Earl Howe | 733 c737 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord knows that that is a matter for the House and the usual channels and not for me. Howe...

Baroness Cumberlege | 733 c780 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is great opportunity lost. If we are going to have an executive agency on the lines o...

Earl Howe | 733 c723 (Link to this contribution) That the House do now again resolve itself into Committee. Amendment to the Motion That the House ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 733 c746 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her helpful intervention and I fully accept what she says. I...

Lord Beecham | 733 c775-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am tempted to open by invoking, if not the Health Protection Agency, then perhaps the pr...