Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Lords second reading debate agreed to on question. Bill Committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill
Debate on bills on Monday, 21 November 2011,
in the House of Lords,
led by Lord McNally.
The answering
member was Lord Bach.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
732 c820-936Session
2010-12Legislative stage
Second readingChamber / Committee
House of Lords chamberRelated items
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 109-EN also published.
Thursday, 3 November 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Thursday, 3 November 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Macdonald of River Glaven | 732 c895-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Linklater said a few minutes ago, this has been a fascinating deba...
Lord Ramsbotham | 732 c859-62 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall not touch on legal aid or sentencing, which have been so comprehensively covered b...
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Lord Clinton-Davis | 732 c856-7 (Link to this contribution)
It is a great privilege for a mere solicitor to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Woolf. Contr...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 732 c874-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to use the time available to me to speak to Parts 1 and 2 of the Bill, that robustl...
Lord Morris of Aberavon | 732 c876-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in the limited time available, I shall try to avoid Committee points, but I am confident t...
Lord Borrie | 732 c888-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, several participants in the course of this debate have referred to and quoted from the boo...
Lord Monks | 732 c885-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare an interest as a non-executive director of Thompsons Solicitors, which is probab...
Lord Faulks | 732 c875 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it was Common Sense, Common Safety.
Bishop of St Edmundsbury and Ipswich | 732 c835-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Members on these Benches, like many noble Lords who spoke, have many serious questions abo...
Lord McNally | 732 c824-5 (Link to this contribution)
Patience, my Lords. I will be turning to IPPs.
On knife crime, in particular, I understand the argu...
Lord Reid of Cardowan | 732 c824 (Link to this contribution)
Before we leave sentencing I would like to ask the Minister a question about indeterminate sentences...
Lord Woolf | 732 c853-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it has been a privilege to be able to hear this debate so far. If my arithmetic is correct...
Lord Goodhart | 732 c852-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in the last year of his life, Lord Bingham—the greatest judge, I believe, of my adult life...
Viscount Simon | 732 c844-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as has already been mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral, in February of this ...
Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 732 c838-40 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interest as chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Domestic and Sexual...
Lord Dholakia | 732 c840-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, much has happened since the introduction of the consultation paper, Breaking the Cycle. I ...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 732 c864-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this Bill is another monster piece of legislation—234 pages long—amending no fewer than 34...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 732 c924-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, at this late hour, I, too, will confine myself to a single, rather narrow point on legal a...
Baroness O'Loan | 732 c879-81 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there can be no doubt that the current arrangements represent, as the Minister said, an ““...
Lord McNally | 732 c820 (Link to this contribution)
That the Bill be read a second time.
Lord McNally | 732 c934 (Link to this contribution)
I stand by that quote, then. If we are going to take that attitude, and if we are going to avoid tak...
Baroness Whitaker | 732 c857-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we all believe in upholding the rule of law, but when it comes to making a reality of what...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 732 c862-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before I say anything else, I should make one prefatory remark of apology to the House and...
Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 732 c866-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Phillips, I came in to the law full of idealism. I have remained...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 732 c846-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like other noble Lords, I shall be addressing my remarks only to certain parts of this som...
Lord Faulks | 732 c847-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the intention behind Parts 1 and 2 of the Bill is to restore some balance to our civil lit...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 732 c850-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is so much in the Bill to be concerned about. The Bill is discriminatory and will en...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 732 c836-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare my interest as a partner in the international commercial law firm DAC Beachcroft...
Lord Pannick | 732 c842-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the exceptional quality of all the contributions that your Lordships have heard so far in ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 732 c909-11 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a very complicated Bill but it is obviously being introduced as part of the Govern...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 732 c907-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in this far-reaching and detailed debate, I shall speak about my concerns for children, yo...
Lord Clement-Jones | 732 c911-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of the Law Society and as a partner in an international ...
Baroness Mallalieu | 732 c900-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I must first declare two interests. I am a practising member of the criminal Bar with an a...
Lord Judd | 732 c899-900 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in opening this debate, the noble Lord, Lord McNally, in his engaging, candid way, asked u...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 732 c904-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it must surely remain one of the highest ideals of any society, perhaps its very first dut...
Lord Shipley | 732 c903-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Thomas of Gresford indicated that I would say something about access ...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 732 c892-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a bedrock principle of a liberal society that there should be equality before the la...
Baroness Stern | 732 c897-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very glad indeed to follow the noble Lord, Lord Macdonald, and wholeheartedly endorse...
Lord Martin of Springburn | 732 c868-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have an interest to declare. Before entering this House I took up a complaint with the T...
Baroness King of Bow | 732 c872-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this House knows that when a Bill is put before it, the Government of the day usually get ...
Lord Prescott | 732 c869-72 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I cannot declare an interest or experience as a barrister, a lawyer, a solicitor or, indee...
Baroness Newlove | 732 c881-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have listened with great interest to the debate, which so far seems mostly about legal a...
Baroness Prosser | 732 c877-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to be able to contribute to this debate, but less than pleased with the propo...
Earl of Listowel | 732 c890-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am prompted to speak briefly about the debate tomorrow on the Public Bodies Bill—and the...
Baroness Linklater of Butterstone | 732 c886-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has been a fascinating and important debate and I am honoured to be part of it. This ...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 732 c875-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful and obliged to the noble Lord. In that report, the noble Lord, Lord Young, made i...
Baroness Grey-Thompson | 732 c833-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a number of concerns about this Bill, specifically in the area of legal aid which h...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 732 c831-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one of the three great universal lies is, ““I am from the Government and I am here to help...
Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 732 c825-31 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his measured introduction to the Bill. First, I should declare an...
Lord McNally | 732 c820-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is a substantial and far-reaching Bill. Its breadth is a consequence of the scale of ...
Lord McNally | 732 c934-6 (Link to this contribution)
That is the speech the noble Lord made earlier. He knows, as I well know, that across government, ex...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 732 c934 (Link to this contribution)
The difficulty in the position that the Minister is taking is that while he may indeed reduce the Mi...
Lord Bach | 732 c934 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord is quoting Mr Ward wrongly. Mr Ward said: "““It is a very dangerous thing if we are g...
Lord McNally | 732 c933-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that the House will understand that in a debate of 54 contributions, I am not going...
Lord Rix | 732 c913-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will put my weight behind those who oppose removing welfare benefits from the scope of l...
Lord Bach | 732 c929-33 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, no one could have listened to the speeches made in your Lordships' House today without rec...
Baroness Doocey | 732 c921-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to focus on the impact that the proposed changes to legal aid provision will have o...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 732 c920-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, at this late hour I do not intend to detain the House for long and shall concentrate on ju...
Lord Gold | 732 c917-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Bill proposes many sensible changes to the civil justice system, although this debate ...
Lord Collins of Highbury | 732 c915-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this Bill covers a wide range of issues. The only common thread is that they all come unde...
Lord Wigley | 732 c927-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise, as did the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, for missing half this debate because ...
Lord Beecham | 732 c926-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, not for the first time, although I think it is fair to say no doubt inadvertently, childre...
Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 732 c922-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise that I have not been able to be present for much of the debate, but it would h...
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