Localism Bill. Lords report stage first day.
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Localism Bill. As amended in Committee. (Lords Minutes).
Wednesday, 20 July 2011
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Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c103 (Link to this contribution)
I would like to ask a question about this amendment, which I am not entirely clear about. I have bee...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c103 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Palmer of Childs Hill, makes a very interesting case. I do not propos...
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Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c101-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the proposed new clause amends ground 8 of Schedule 2 to the Housing Act 1988. At present,...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c101 (Link to this contribution)
36: Clause 153, page 147, line 41, after ““dwelling-house”” insert ““in England””
Amendment 36 agre...
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c101 (Link to this contribution)
37: After Clause 153, insert the following new Clause—
““Orders for possession: cases in which Groun...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c100 (Link to this contribution)
34: Clause 150, page 146, line 35, at end insert—
““(aa) the dwelling-house is in England,””
Amendm...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c100-1 (Link to this contribution)
35: Clause 151, page 147, line 4, after ““tenancy”” insert ““of a dwelling-house in England””
Amend...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c100 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will speak briefly, subject to anything that arises from the question raised by the nobl...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c100 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie of Luton, for that. A prodigious amount of work went...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c110 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister will permit me to intervene, amendments were tabled in Committee dealing with Clause...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 730 c109-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the three noble Lords who have addressed this issue, particularly the noble Lord, ...
Lord Whitty | 730 c106 (Link to this contribution)
38: Clause 154, leave out Clause 154.
Lord Whitty | 730 c106-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 38 I shall speak to the other amendments in the group. We have come to...
Lord Best | 730 c107-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, would leave out a whole series of clauses t...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c108-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I suppose that there are not many people who like to collect together at this hour to disc...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c103-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have all sorts of answers that were given in the letter, which I was absolutely satisfie...
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c105 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her detailed reply both in writing and verbally. She has not misu...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c105 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Lord agree that the issue is compounded because there will be a split of housing supp...
Lord Palmer of Childs Hill | 730 c105-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Lord for emphasising that point. In my view, during this volatile period there is ...
Lord Whitty | 730 c112 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his offer to explain all this to me in simple language. ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c111 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down, could he deal with the point about the existing powers that the Gover...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 730 c111-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am afraid that I will have to write to the noble Lord about that. I do not have a firm answer as t...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 730 c110-1 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, but there was not the wholesale abolition of the entirety of the clauses in the Bill on this...
Lord Shipley | 730 c65 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful for the intervention and the Minister's response. I was encouraged by t...
Lord Shipley | 730 c66 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak also to Amendment 21. In a sense, the ground has already been covered because Amendmen...
Lord Shipley | 730 c65-6 (Link to this contribution)
16: Clause 136, page 129, line 25, at end insert—
““( ) For section 190 substitute—
““190 Duties to ...
Lord Shipley | 730 c67-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendments 25 and 26. Amendment 22 defines the exemptions from flexi...
Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 730 c69-70 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome my noble friend putting forward these amendments, and particularly Amendment 22....
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c66 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendment 16 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. The amendment seeks to...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c66 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, was very brief in moving this amendment, for which I am grat...
Lord Shipley | 730 c66 (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment 16 withdrawn.
Amendments 17 to 1...
Lord Shipley | 730 c66-7 (Link to this contribution)
22: After Clause 136, insert the following new Clause—
““Exemptions from flexible tenancy regime
(1)...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c73-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that I can ease the minds of all noble Lords on this. When we say flexible tenancie...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c72-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may briefly comment on the back of that. It was extremely helpful. Incidentally,...
Lord Best | 730 c72 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I may say a brief word. I moved an amendment along these lines just before the Com...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c72 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, has the full support of the Oppositio...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c89-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Kennedy is having a well earned rest. He has passed the easy stuff to...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c90-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I recognise that the amendment is founded on the concerns that the creation of tenancy str...
Lord Shipley | 730 c75-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for clarifying the Government’s approach to these amendments...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c89 (Link to this contribution)
23: Clause 137, leave out Clause 137 and insert the following new Clause—
““Tenancy strategies
(1) A...
Lord Whitty | 730 c75 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down I should say that I felt that her assurance to the noble Lord, Lord Be...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c75 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thought I made myself pellucid on this. Local authorities and housing associations will ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c91-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response and her explanation of the Government’s position. Sh...
Lord Shipley | 730 c92-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment is designed to create a presumption that flexible tenancies should be renew...
Lord Shipley | 730 c92 (Link to this contribution)
28: Clause 141, page 136, line 4, at end insert—
““(3A) In carrying out the review, the reviewing of...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c93 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I said in Committee, Amendment 28 is not necessary. The review already ensures that a d...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 730 c93 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Kennedy has added his name to this amendment. I support everything th...
Lord Shipley | 730 c93 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response. I hope that what she has described will ha...
Lord Beecham | 730 c93 (Link to this contribution)
29: Clause 142, page 136, line 35, leave out subsections (3) and (4)
Lord Beecham | 730 c93-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment relates to the position of tenants under the new flexible tenancies who see...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c94 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I can probably reassure the noble Lord about this. While the amendment would provide flexi...
Lord Beecham | 730 c95 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that I never look cross when I look at the noble Baroness. I accept her assurances, which ...
Baroness Wilkins | 730 c95-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak to Amendments 30 and 31 concerning the Bill’s removal of automatic succession righ...
Baroness Wilkins | 730 c95 (Link to this contribution)
30: Clause 147, page 142, line 40, at end insert—
““( ) The Secretary of State must publish directio...
Lord Beecham | 730 c97 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I confess that I was puzzled by these amendments until my noble friend patiently explained...
Baroness Hollins | 730 c96-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, support the amendment. I have worked for the past 30 years with adults with learni...
Lord Wigley | 730 c96 (Link to this contribution)
I support the noble Baroness’s amendment. I do so declaring an interest as vice-president of Mencap ...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c96 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have every sympathy with the amendment, as it deals with an important issue, but I am co...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c99 (Link to this contribution)
32: Clause 149, page 146, line 5, at end insert—
““(2A) In that Part of that Schedule, in Ground 16 ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c99 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these are government Amendments 32, 34, 35 and 36. When someone who is not a spouse or par...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c97-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that we will not have to return to this at Third Reading, as I trust that I shall b...
Baroness Wilkins | 730 c98-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for that reply and am most grateful to everybody who supported the ame...
Lord Avebury | 730 c46 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sorry to continue on this theme, but I wonder whether the noble Baroness realises tha...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c54-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their contributions. I understand that this is an important aspect...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c47 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate, including the noble Lords,...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c46-7 (Link to this contribution)
A lot lies behind the matter raised by the noble Lord. A lot has been said by the leader of the coun...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c50-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this group of amendments is probably the most important that we will consider today as par...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c50 (Link to this contribution)
6: Clause 135, page 128, line 3, at beginning insert ““Subject to section (Expiration of sections 13...
Lord Beecham | 730 c52-3 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my noble friend Lord Kennedy and the noble Lord, Lord Best, on moving this amendment....
Lord Best | 730 c51-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is against this amendment, in support of the sunset clause coupled with a report o...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c53-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am slightly concerned about two different aspects. First, the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, ...
Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 730 c53 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I declare an interest since I chair the National Housing Federation. The Government are em...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c55 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. I am a disappointed that the Minist...
Lord Shipley | 730 c58 (Link to this contribution)
8: Clause 135, page 128, line 38, leave out paragraph (d).
Lord Avebury | 730 c60-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I know that the Minister does not want to discuss the Dale Farm evictions, which are to ta...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c60 (Link to this contribution)
This is a question of whether people have a 100 per cent right to decide what is suitable. I think w...
Lord Beecham | 730 c60 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wonder whether I can tempt the Minister—probably not—to answer the point I made on a pre...
Lord Shipley | 730 c58-60 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 8 I shall also speak to Amendment 20. Amendment 8 would restore the re...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c65 (Link to this contribution)
I see a nod of the head. Third Reading might be before the end of September, but I seriously doubt i...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c65 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down, perhaps I may press her a tiny bit further. Her comments are welcome....
Baroness Hanham | 730 c63-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that there will be few differences between us by the time we reach the end of what ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c62 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support Amendments 8 and 20, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. Amendment 8 is simp...
Lord Shipley | 730 c38 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister very much for her response, although from my perspective it is a litt...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c37-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank all those who have contributed to the debate. We recognise that the homelessness d...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c37 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, briefly, I support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Shipley. This is a welcome ...
Lord Beecham | 730 c36-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my experience of the housing of asylum seekers in the city of Newcastle certainly does not...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c35-6 (Link to this contribution)
I thought that the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, might wish to speak. I would rather hear from him first...
Lord Shipley | 730 c33 (Link to this contribution)
4: Clause 134, page 126, line 4, after ““1985)”” insert ““or who have been owed such duties at any t...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister, and I am grateful for her kind remarks at the start of this debate. Hopefully,...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will seek advice about that as it was not in my notes. I will tell the noble Lord about ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down again, when does she expect to see drafts of the guidance that she ref...
Baroness Whitaker | 730 c45 (Link to this contribution)
The 25,000 people I mentioned are all nomadic Travellers. The recognition to which the noble Barones...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c45 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think that local authorities are being asked to identify sites at the moment. It may be ...
Lord Avebury | 730 c43-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am prompted to intervene by listening to what my noble friend Lord Shipley said about th...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 730 c42-3 (Link to this contribution)
I shall intervene very briefly. The Minister may remember that I had responsibility for homelessness...
Baroness Whitaker | 730 c45 (Link to this contribution)
Will the noble Baroness say how the arrangements that she prefers apply to Gypsies and Travellers? I...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c44-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank noble Lords for these amendments. I will resist the temptation, if I may, to respo...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c38 (Link to this contribution)
5: Before Clause 135, insert the following new Clause—
““Prevention of homelessness: advice and assi...
Lord Shipley | 730 c39-41 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16. Amendment 12 would require local housin...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c38-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was hoping that the Government would have indicated that they were going to accept this ...
Lord Williamson of Horton | 730 c23-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we are now coming to the vital questions of homelessness and overcrowding, but this amendm...
Lord Shipley | 730 c23 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall contribute briefly to this debate, although I, too, had not intended to do so. Fro...
Lord Whitty | 730 c18-20 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that I and my colleagues will keep to that.
In moving Amendment 1, I declare an in...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c20-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Whitty put forward a similar amendment in Committee on the last day b...
Lord Whitty | 730 c18 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I recognise the Minister’s confusion and nevertheless thank her for agreeing to deal with ...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 730 c18 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think that I had better assist the House. As the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, recognised, th...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 730 c22 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I had not intended to intervene, either. I do not want to go too far down the same line as...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c22-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am, of course, an immigrant, although I immigrated a long time ago. I remember being quite unsurpr...
Lord Waddington | 730 c21 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was not intending to speak in this debate. In my few words I will try to be helpful. It ...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 730 c21-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, will the noble Lord read again what the amendment of my noble friend Lord Whitty calls for...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
The local authority has flexibility at present so it would be able to prevent the transfer. The word...
Lord Beecham | 730 c24-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment moved by my noble friend Lord Whitty and will make a couple of obs...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c25-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I got us off to a really good start, and the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, has taken that on as...
Lord Whitty | 730 c27-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for giving the amendment her careful consideration, and I also thank ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c30 (Link to this contribution)
2: Clause 133, page 124, line 30, leave out ““and (4)”” and insert ““, (4) and (7A)””
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 730 c30-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I moved these amendments on the last day before the Summer Recess and we are back to them ...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c31-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when I stood up last time I was remiss in not welcoming the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, to h...
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
Before the Minister sits down—
Baroness Hanham | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot do that on Report.
Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 730 c32 (Link to this contribution)
I thought we could do that on Report for a question. I asked the Clerk earlier. Perhaps that could b...
Lord Whitty | 730 c18 (Link to this contribution)
1: Before Clause 132, insert the following new Clause—
““Housing strategy
(1) All measures required ...
Lord Wigley | 730 c99-100 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I intervene briefly to ask about the implications for Wales. I am grateful to the Minister...
Lord Whitty | 730 c70-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is down for two amendments in this group. I strongly agree with most of what the n...
Lord Shipley | 730 c33-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 4 I shall speak also to Amendments 7, 17 and 18. I first thank my nobl...
Baroness Hanham | 730 c45 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Baroness will know that there is already a requirement under legislation for loc...
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