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Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 30 June 2011, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Walmsley. The answering member was Lord Hill of Oareford.
Education Bill. Lords committee stage second day. Clause 2: Power of members of staff at schools to search pupils, agreed to. Clause 3: Power of members of staff at further education institutions to search students, agreed to. Clause 4: Exclusion of pupils from schools in England: review, under consideration. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

728 c245-304GC 

Session

2010-12

Department

Department for Education

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Related items

Education Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 67-EN also published.
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Brinton | 728 c260GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to argue against the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland. One of the benefi...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c259GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to know where the parents are in this. If I were the parent of a child who h...

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Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c255GC (Link to this contribution) I believe that that could be done at the moment. That would not therefore be a change, and overall w...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c299GC (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister make it clear in the guidance that, if the assessments are done at an early stage ...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c245GC (Link to this contribution) 13: Clause 2, page 3, line 43, after ““rules”” insert ““reasonably””
Baroness Brinton | 728 c278-9GC (Link to this contribution) I also support the comments made by the noble Lord, Lord Laming. I confess that in the mid to late 1...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c276-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, again, I shall be brief. I have absolutely no hesitation in supporting both amendments and...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 728 c277-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure that I shall be able to add too much that is new to the debate, but this is ...
Lord Elton | 728 c275-6GC (Link to this contribution) Two subjects have been raised in this debate that tempt me to my feet. The first is children exclude...
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 728 c276GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask a rather boring lawyer’s question about the amendment. I think I am righ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 728 c274GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like briefly to say how much I endorse the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, ...
Baroness Ritchie of Brompton | 728 c274-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome this opportunity to make comments on the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, L...
Baroness Warnock | 728 c272GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support the amendment. I have in mind, unsurprisingly, children with special ne...
Lord Touhig | 728 c273-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Laming, and my noble friend ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 728 c271-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak briefly, having not yet spoken at all on the Bill for a number of reasons. I...
Lord Laming | 728 c267-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 33 I shall speak also to Amendment 100. Looking around the Room and se...
Baroness Whitaker | 728 c269GC (Link to this contribution) By adding my name to the amendment in this group, which was moved and spoken to with such authority ...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c269-70GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am happy to find myself in my more natural position of supporting amendments rather than...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c270-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, you will see from the Marshalled List that I added my name to that of the noble Lord, Lord...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c264GC (Link to this contribution) In response to the noble Baroness’s remarks, I gave the example of a head teacher of an EBD school, ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c264-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought that this would be a good and interesting debate and so it has proved. The key i...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c266-7GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply and all noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. I will pic...
Lord Laming | 728 c267GC (Link to this contribution) 33: Clause 4, page 8, line 18, at end insert— ““( ) The measures relating to the exclusion of pupils...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c263GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Jones, has stimulated me to emphasise the questions that I would like my no...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c263-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the question of evidence is close to my heart, having chaired the Science and Technology S...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c263GC (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister responds, I wanted to make a quick comment in response to the noble Lord, Lord S...
Viscount Eccles | 728 c260-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, not for the first time I find myself welcoming the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Suther...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c261GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I could briefly make two comments on this very difficult issue. First, I hope your Lordships...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c259-60GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are in difficult and delicate territory. We accepted that when we discussed related poi...
Baroness Howells of St Davids | 728 c262GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having spent practically my entire life in this country fighting against stop and search, ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c262GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to intervene, but I am inclined to think that this is yet another area ...
Lord Storey | 728 c261GC (Link to this contribution) I understand noble Lords’ concerns about crises, but I want to paint a different picture. In most si...
Lord Lucas | 728 c261-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I think of my own childhood, members of the opposite sex were not the ones who caused...
Baroness Benjamin | 728 c259GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Barnado’s deals with a lot of children who have been groomed for sexual acts. If a child w...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c258-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, our Amendment 17 mirrors much of what is in Amendment 16, but with slightly different word...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c255GC (Link to this contribution) Although the Government do not want to move towards a blanket ban on mobile phones, is it their curr...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c255GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an interesting and illuminating debate. Before dealing with the issues debat...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c255-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend. A number of points have been made in the debate today, and I absolutely agr...
Lord Geddes | 728 c257GC (Link to this contribution) Before moving to Amendment 16, I wonder whether I could ask our electronic expert in the corner whet...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c257GC (Link to this contribution) 16: Clause 2, page 4, leave out lines 26 to 40
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c257-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 28. We now move to some of the more delicate checks and ba...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c304GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Monday at 3.30 pm.
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c303-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that once more it falls to me to don the mantle of the noble Lord, Lord Rix, albei...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c303GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply to my amendment. I am pleased to hear that he is thinki...
Lord Lucas | 728 c303GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask my noble friend a couple of questions. First, I should be very intereste...
Baroness Howells of St Davids | 728 c303GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that noble Lords will forgive me as I, too, forgot something. I forgot to say that the Minist...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c302GC (Link to this contribution) Forgive me, my Lords. I meant no discourtesy to the noble Baroness, Lady Howells, and I hope she wil...
Baroness Howells of St Davids | 728 c296GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a child is disadvantaged in the system not only because he might have SEN or a disability;...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c296GC (Link to this contribution) I agree in principle. The wording in the amendment, ““to retain an excluded pupil on the roll””, mea...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c297-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, exclusion should be the last resort, a statement with which everyone here wholeheartedly a...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c297GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for being absent for much of this debate. I have an amendment in this grouping...
Baroness Warnock | 728 c296GC (Link to this contribution) Is it in order for me to ask a question? I agree with much of what the noble Baroness says, but does...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c294-6GC (Link to this contribution) As noble Lords know, the clause changes the appeals process for pupils if they are permanently exclu...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c299-302GC (Link to this contribution) In that case, we would expect the panel to ask for such an assessment if it has been made. We then ...
Baroness Benjamin | 728 c302GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support what the noble Baroness, Lady Howells, has said. I feel very sad that thre...
Lord Ouseley | 728 c302GC (Link to this contribution) I make a small intervention on behalf of the noble Baroness, Lady Howells. The Minister has not resp...
Lord Touhig | 728 c286-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendment 35 and Amendments 48 to 52 in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c291-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Storey, has just told noble Lords about Amendment 43 in the name of t...
Lord Storey | 728 c291GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Quirk, that any exclusion is a tragedy for that pupil an...
Lord Ramsbotham | 728 c288-91GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I entirely endorse what my noble friend Lord Quirk just said about those with communicatio...
Lord Quirk | 728 c288GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendments 34 and 35. I do so having in mind particularly children who are speec...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 728 c293GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to address some of the issues raised by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, in...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 728 c292-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Committee will forgive me for intervening briefly but the last point is ve...
Baroness Jolly | 728 c292GC (Link to this contribution) I also support the noble Lord, Lord Storey, on Amendment 43, to which the noble Baroness, Lady Howe,...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 728 c293-4GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise. She is so famous that I get star struck. Not only was the noble Lord, Lord Finlay—I am ...
Baroness Benjamin | 728 c280GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, childhood lasts a lifetime. Whatever children go through at an early age will stay with th...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c279-80GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to make a small contribution to this excellent debate and thank the noble Lord, Lor...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c281-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was a little concerned, after listening to our previous debate on searches, when we all ...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c280GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Laming for tabling these amendments. I have just one quick qu...
Lord Laming | 728 c284GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am—I was going to say ““most grateful”” but that is an understatement—slightly overwhelm...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c283-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that a pattern is beginning to emerge in this last group. For that reason, I shall...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c284GC (Link to this contribution) 34: Clause 4, page 8, line 22, at end insert— ““( ) Where a child’s SEN has association to behaviour...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 728 c284GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been suggested that we take a comfort break at this stage. Therefore, the Committee...
Lord Lingfield | 728 c286GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have enormous sympathy with the amendments that the noble Lord, Lord Rix, would no doubt...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c285-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Rix, has been called away as a result of a family medical situation a...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c245-7GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to Amendments 21, 22, 23 and 24 in my name which are grouped with Amendment 13. W...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c247-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley. I shall speak also to our A...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c253-4GC (Link to this contribution) I want to explore a little more whether a school ought to be able to search and erase material, as m...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 728 c254GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend. I was not going to speak, but this important point strays into ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c254-5GC (Link to this contribution) I shall try to reply briefly to some of those points. I agree with the point made by my noble friend...
Lord Elton | 728 c248-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 14 in this group, which addresses two angles of concern. The fi...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c249-52GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I respond to the points raised in today’s debate, I should like to pick up briefly ...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c249GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow on briefly from what the noble Lord, Lord Elton, has just said. I have experience...
Lord Elton | 728 c252-3GC (Link to this contribution) We need to consider not only the privacy of the child, but the privacy of the person at the other en...
Lord Lucas | 728 c252GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would be very grateful if my noble friend would include me in that correspondence. I do ...
Lord Storey | 728 c253GC (Link to this contribution) I want to re-emphasise the importance of parents being aware of the school’s behaviour management po...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c253GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to pursue an issue that I mentioned in passing in my introduction: that of mobile p...

Subjects

Bullying
Children in care
Appeals
Classroom assistants
Education
Further education
Inspections
Gender
Discrimination
Ethnic groups
Learning disability
Educational institutions
Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder
Pilot schemes
Pupil exclusions
Powers
Pupils
Mobile phones
Minority groups
Standards
Schools
Teachers
Special educational needs
Right of search
Social services
Students
Ofsted

Legislation

Education Bill 2010-12

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