Education Bill
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Education Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 67-EN also published.
Thursday, 12 May 2011
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Thursday, 12 May 2011
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Fifteenth report on: Education Bill; Localism Bill Parts 1 to 3. (Lords Minutes).
Wednesday, 15 June 2011
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Wednesday, 15 June 2011
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c231-2GC (Link to this contribution)
It may be convenient for the Committee if I answer the question just posed by the noble Lord, Lord S...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c237-40GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is clear from this excellent discussion that improving standards of behaviour in our sc...
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Earl of Listowel | 728 c221GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support what has been proposed. I put my name to this amendment because I have spoken on...
Lord Peston | 728 c186-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I have come specially to support the noble Lord on this. He refers to his amendment as a probing ame...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c188GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment is crucial for everything that follows in education. Frank Field and Graham ...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c192GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I warm to the spirit of both amendments—who would not? That being said, I want to distingu...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c192-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the principles behind my noble friend’s amendments. I pay tribute to the Governm...
Lord Laming | 728 c193-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will not detain the Committee for more than a moment. I will speak in support of the fir...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c194-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is fitting that the first amendment to the Bill relates to the first years of a child's...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c188-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I make one or two comments following up what other noble Lords have said. First, on the Gr...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 728 c189GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think we are united on all sides about the importance of the early years. I congratulate...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c189-90GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne. It is absolutely fitting and appropriate ...
Lord Elton | 728 c190-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not sure that this wagon really needs much more impetus but would like to put in a co...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c196GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, may I remind the Minister that it takes two to tango? Some parents will co-operate—indeed,...
Lord Elton | 728 c196GC (Link to this contribution)
I urge my noble friend to bear it in mind, and particularly to have it borne in the minds of those d...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c196-7GC (Link to this contribution)
Before my noble friend replies, I thank him for the news of the statement this summer and I join the...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c200-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is attached to Amendment 10 in this group, on Sure Start children’s centres. I sha...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c202GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to pick up the point about staff qualifications. Many of your Lordships will be awa...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c197-200GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, after the debate that we have just had and the unanimous support across all sides of the H...
Lord Laming | 728 c200GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there is only one thing that I want to ask the Minister about this. Everything in the Bill...
Lord Northbourne | 728 c197GC (Link to this contribution)
I will not take more than a moment. The Minister said that the Childcare Act 2006 had all the answer...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c197GC (Link to this contribution)
2: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, at end insert—
““( ) In ensuring free of charge early years provision, ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 728 c197GC (Link to this contribution)
May I say how much I welcome the announcement of the foundation years document? Will we have a chanc...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c197GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that the Committee stage will have finished by then, but I am sure we can find another oppor...
Lord Peston | 728 c202GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble friend’s amendments, I note—whether with glee or cynicism, I am not sur...
Lord True | 728 c202-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I intervene not to spoil the party but to declare an interest as leader of a local authori...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c204GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Peston, on his astonishing mindreading powers. We have...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c205GC (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister agree with my point that underneath that figure of 93 per cent for three year-olds...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c205-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I suspect that that is true. I do not know the precise figures, but that sounds as though it could b...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c208-9GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness replies, can I pick up two or three points in what the Minister said? To b...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c209-10GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for a very detailed response to these amendments. I also thank other noble Lord...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c210GC (Link to this contribution)
Can the noble Baroness cite any single word that she has heard from this Government which suggests t...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c210GC (Link to this contribution)
No. I made it very clear that I do not doubt the commitments that have been expressed both here and ...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c210GC (Link to this contribution)
I omitted to ask the Minister whether he could remind the Committee of the present situation on the ...
Lord True | 728 c211GC (Link to this contribution)
3: Clause 1, page 1, line 13, after ““area”” insert ““whose parents or guardians wish it and””
Lord True | 728 c211-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not share remotely the experience of the noble Lord, Lord Peston, who I see leaving. ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c210GC (Link to this contribution)
I think the absolute requirement that there should be such a provision was removed at the end of las...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c210-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am happy to withdraw the amendment in Committee but we shall return to these amendments ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c214-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I will make a few brief remarks on these amendments. First, in terms of Amendment 8 and the principl...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c215-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was not going to speak on this but I think I will. I am reminded of what happened under ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 728 c213-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is on these amendments as I very much support their purpose and agree wholehearted...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c214GC (Link to this contribution)
I support my noble friend Lord True in what he said about allowing providers flexibility in what the...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c216-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, like a number of noble Lords who have spoken, the Government are sensitive to concerns abo...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c217GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry for tiring the Committee, but just to help me understand better how sufficient the fundin...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 728 c185GC (Link to this contribution)
I begin as usual by reminding your Lordships that if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are...
Baroness Warnock | 728 c187GC (Link to this contribution)
I very much support the amendment for two reasons. I endorse all the things that have been said. Fir...
Lord Northbourne | 728 c185-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is fairly apparent that the amendments which we are discussing are probing amendments. ...
Lord Northbourne | 728 c185GC (Link to this contribution)
1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—
““Foundation stage
(1) The period in the life o...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c187GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we on these Benches very much support the principles of what the noble Lord, Lord Northbou...
Lord Ramsbotham | 728 c187-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, support the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, in this very important amendment. I also...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 728 c231GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I particularly support Amendments 26 and 31 which deal with the keeping of records. It is ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 728 c230-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I was about to move on to training. With great respect to the noble Baroness, Lady Jolly, I do not t...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 728 c230GC (Link to this contribution)
Does not that particular scenario—which is obviously a real and concerning one for teachers in some ...
Lord Elton | 728 c232-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I echo something that the noble Baroness just said. The carrying of a weapon is often an e...
Baroness Benjamin | 728 c232GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support several of the amendments in this group but would like to focus on black and eth...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c229-30GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have real concerns about this part of the Bill. If ever I saw a can of worms—I do not se...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 728 c230GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, always talks a great deal of sense, and I absolutely agre...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c226-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as a number of amendments are in our names, I thought that it would be sensible to get up ...
Baroness Jolly | 728 c228-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 20, which is narrow in scope but concerns an area that has been...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 728 c237GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I echo the points made by my noble friend Lady Perry. I am a member of the Joint Committee...
Lord Morris of Handsworth | 728 c236-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the debate has revealed, this is a very sensitive issue which has to be dealt with with...
Lord Elton | 728 c240-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I use just a second to pick up one phrase that my noble friend used earlier: discipline is not only ...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 728 c241GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to make just a couple of quick points, giving the lateness of the hour. The first i...
Lord Lingfield | 728 c233-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise to the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, for disappearing for a bit during her cont...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 728 c234GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Massey and others who have described this as a bit of a can...
Viscount Eccles | 728 c234-5GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have listened very carefully and tried to think, if I was the head teacher of a school, ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 728 c235-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, after listening to the emotions raised, it is quite clear that this is an explosive situat...
Earl of Listowel | 728 c236GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to flag up for the Minister that this might be relevant to his interest in the trai...
Lord Elton | 728 c221-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, what my noble friend’s amendments seek to do is not only desirable but in line with the Go...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c221GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was not able to support the last group of amendments of the noble Lord, Lord True, becau...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 728 c221GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendments. We are not talking here about some new provider on the block wit...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 728 c220GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it gives me the greatest pleasure to acknowledge the excellent work of Montessori practiti...
Lord True | 728 c219-20GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendments 11 and 70 relate to nursery education and are intended to apply pari passu to S...
Lord True | 728 c218GC (Link to this contribution)
11: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—
““Early years schools workforce: Montessori sch...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 728 c218GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I suggest that this might be a convenient stage to have a 10-minute comfort break. The Roo...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c217GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the short answer is that it will vary considerably from area to area. If I am able to prov...
Lord True | 728 c217-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend will not be surprised that I am immensely disappointed by his response. Th...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c225GC (Link to this contribution)
12: Clause 2, page 3, line 37, after ““the”” insert ““properly trained””
Lord True | 728 c224-5GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for those interventions. Having veered away from using the ph...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c225-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 12, I wish to speak also to Amendments 19, 27 and 32 in this group. My...
Lord True | 728 c224GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am rather happier with that response than with the response to the previous group. I am ...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 728 c222-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendments 11 and 70 relate to Montessori nursery schools and qualifications of Montessori...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 728 c224GC (Link to this contribution)
I cannot understand why there has been such consultation given that we are still in a temporary situ...
Lord Elton | 728 c224GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think that the noble Lord is trembling on the edge of withdrawing the amendment. However...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 728 c222GC (Link to this contribution)
I, too, have had grandchildren at a Montessori school and I have a great regard for the system. Why ...
Baroness Benjamin | 728 c222GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. I, too, have great admiration for the Montessori system because m...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c222GC (Link to this contribution)
I also agree that Montessori offers a high-quality experience for children and one would want to sup...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 728 c244GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Thursday at 2 pm.
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c242-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I quite agree with the noble Baroness. We need to have another debate about consistency in the way t...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 728 c242GC (Link to this contribution)
Is the noble Baroness aware that in some parallel situations, for instance in children's homes, a wr...
Baroness Walmsley | 728 c241-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has been an excellent and wide-ranging debate. I thank all noble Lords who contribute...
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