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European Union Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 16 May 2011, in the House of Lords.
European Union Bill. Lords committee stage fifth day. Clause 6: Decisions requiring approval by Act and by referendum, under consideration.

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Reference

727 c1222-50 

Session

2010-12

Department

Foreign and Commonwealth Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

European Union Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 55-EN also published.
Wednesday, 9 March 2011
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1222 (Link to this contribution) Moved by That the House do now resolve itself into Committee.
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1223 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I oppose the Motion on the basis that it is completely unfair to bring on a major Bill at ...

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Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 727 c1224 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may detain the House for a minute or two to comment on the speeches that noble L...
Lord Triesman | 727 c1223-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot recall an occasion yet when the noble Lord, Lord Stoddart of Swindon, and I have ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 727 c1224-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I concur with everything that has been said by the three previous speakers—an unusual even...
Earl Attlee | 727 c1225 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all noble Lords know that business is organised by the usual channels. I agree that the Ho...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1225 (Link to this contribution) We have an hour and three-quarters. Is this to be considered a day of Committee?
Lord Liddle | 727 c1229-30 (Link to this contribution) I think the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, is right on that subject. The problem is the people who believe ...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1228 (Link to this contribution) We all know the noble Lord’s views on this matter. The experience of the 1975 referendum was that it...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 727 c1228-9 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have a copy of the coalition agreement in front of me. While the noble Lord is right in what...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1229 (Link to this contribution) I have the greatest affection for the noble Baroness, but I think that her attempt to justify the fa...
Lord Dykes | 727 c1229 (Link to this contribution) I intervene only briefly and thank the noble Lord for giving way. Is he not perfectly correct in gen...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1225-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 39B. These are probing amendments. We are not saying they ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 727 c1228 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord seems to be saying that referendums should be held only on really important issues, s...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1238 (Link to this contribution) No, I specifically excluded the House of Lords. It was the House of Commons. The House of Commons ha...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 727 c1238 (Link to this contribution) The president of the Liberal Democrats is very well known to me. He is a supporter of the European U...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 727 c1241 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like briefly to return to what the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, said when he saw fit t...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1241 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a feeling that we have reached the stage in the debate when we could leave the pres...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1238-9 (Link to this contribution) I remember the 1975 referendum very well. I took part in it myself. If Mr Farron believes that we sh...
Lord Dykes | 727 c1239 (Link to this contribution) If the result of the referendum was a yes vote, which I believe the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, h...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1239 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is absolutely wrong on this. The 1975 referendum was held because of the failure to h...
Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 727 c1239-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to follow my noble friend Lord Dykes too far as I am not sure that his remar...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1230 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has made two points which reflect a misunderstanding of what this side is trying to p...
Lord Dykes | 727 c1236-7 (Link to this contribution) I think that there have been examples of much larger figures when money has been offered by newspape...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 727 c1237-8 (Link to this contribution) I probably would not have risen except for the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Dykes, to which I will...
Lord Dykes | 727 c1235-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to intervene briefly on these matters. Although the amendments have been described ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 727 c1236 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord continues with his line on the Daily Express, when he mentions those...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 727 c1233-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I completely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Kerr of Kinlochard, on the need for proportio...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 727 c1234-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak very briefly in support of this probing amendment, not because I am ...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 727 c1231-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree and disagree with the amendments. I agree with the concept of proportionality which underlie...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1246 (Link to this contribution) I have always found this argument very curious. To go to QMV requires a unanimous decision by those ...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 727 c1246 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has, with enormous eloquence, destroyed the case for the Single European Act and the si...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1246-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to sound critical of the noble Lord, who has had such experience in these things, but ...
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 727 c1247 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister not agree that the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, is in fact a misunde...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 727 c1247 (Link to this contribution) I have a strong preference for interpreting what I say myself and for not having it interpreted by a...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1247-8 (Link to this contribution) I am receiving strong hints—correct hints, I think—that not too much more time should be taken up fr...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1249-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very disappointed with the Minister’s reply to this debate. I think that we have made...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 727 c1241-2 (Link to this contribution) I wanted to press the mover and supporters of the amendment on one or two points. We have heard a lo...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1242 (Link to this contribution) Those are interesting and important points. The noble Lord, Lord Liddle, who was the father of the a...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1244 (Link to this contribution) I cannot recollect using the word ““trivial””, to be quite honest. The key point we were trying to m...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1244 (Link to this contribution) The Maastricht treaty and other treaties make clear that common defence means common control and com...
Lord Triesman | 727 c1242-3 (Link to this contribution) Can the noble Lord give me one or two examples of the extensions that he believes this Front Bench s...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1243-4 (Link to this contribution) My difficulty in answering that question is due to the difficulty that the Opposition have in statin...
Lord Goodhart | 727 c1246 (Link to this contribution) Again, is it not distinctly possible that QMV would have considerable benefits for the United Kingdo...
Lord Goodhart | 727 c1244 (Link to this contribution) Is my noble friend aware that the EPPO would have virtually no effect on litigation or law in the Un...
Lord Waddington | 727 c1230 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord referred to the two amendments as probing amendments. I think that they cou...
Lord Liddle | 727 c1225 (Link to this contribution) 39A: Clause 6, page 5, line 6, leave out subsection (4) and insert— ““(4) The referendum condition i...
Lord Waddington | 727 c1230-1 (Link to this contribution) Of course I accept what the noble Lord says about the proposal not being tongue in cheek, but I cert...
Earl Attlee | 727 c1225 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much doubt that the usual channels would consider an hour and three-quarters to be ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1247 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend puts the matter with wonderful clarity. The truth is that not only is it not in our ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 727 c1245-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not think we are going to join the EPP. The previous Government did not want it, this Governmen...

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