Finance Bill. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee of the Whole House. Agreed on question. Committee stage first day. Clause 1 agreed, with amendments discussed and withdrawn, one amendment negatived on division (228 to 318). Clause 2 agreed. Schedule 1 agreed, with amendments discussed and withdrawn.
Finance Bill
Debate on bills
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Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Monday, 12 July 2010,
in the House of Commons.
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Finance Bill 2010-12. Explanatory notes also published (Bill 3-EN 2009-10).
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Proceeding contributions
Karl McCartney | 513 c689-92 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr Hoyle, in your role as Chairman of Ways and Means and as the House sits in Committee t...
Andrew George | 513 c686 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the hon. Gentleman both on raising the issue and on the manner in which he is doing s...
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John McDonnell | 513 c686 (Link to this contribution)
I fully concur, which is why I think that HMRC must apply a lot more resources to tackling quantific...
John Redwood | 513 c687 (Link to this contribution)
If a constituent of the hon. Gentleman's had a deposit in a savings product that was paying interest...
John McDonnell | 513 c686-7 (Link to this contribution)
I fully agree.
I have not included any reference to VAT, which is one of the largest areas of tax e...
Andrew Love | 513 c684-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for being so generous in giving way. Does he agree with the Institute for Fis...
John Redwood | 513 c685 (Link to this contribution)
If the gap is so enormous, can the hon. Gentleman explain why 13 years of Labour government did not ...
John McDonnell | 513 c685 (Link to this contribution)
Let me say as objectively as I can that I have not yet seen a Budget that simplified the taxation sy...
John Pugh | 513 c686 (Link to this contribution)
Should we not recognise that tax avoidance and tax evasion are two very different things, and that a...
John McDonnell | 513 c685 (Link to this contribution)
I can only say that that is one of the reasons why I have raised the issue so consistently. I hope t...
John McDonnell | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
I agree wholeheartedly. I shall say more about that shortly, because it is one of the issues that we...
Andrew Love | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that avoidance and evasion are the same to the extent that, in the context...
John McDonnell | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
The difference is clear with regard to legality and illegality. The technical implementation of tax ...
Lord Beamish | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that many people who will face the harsh effects of the proposed cuts will...
John McDonnell | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
Complication is certainly an issue. That is partly why I want the Chancellor to report to the House ...
John McDonnell | 513 c683-4 (Link to this contribution)
As my hon. Friend says from a sedentary position, the discussions were refreshing, to say the least....
Lord Beamish | 513 c683 (Link to this contribution)
Refreshing even.
John McDonnell | 513 c683 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 11, page 1, line 6, at end insert—
Lord Beamish | 513 c711 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that this cut will be unfair to small businesses in that while the major b...
Chris Leslie | 513 c711-2 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, I think there is a set of unfairness issues that affect not only public services and our con...
Matt Hancock | 513 c712 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman regret his party's position before the last election, which was that we shou...
Chris Leslie | 513 c712 (Link to this contribution)
I may be wrong, but it is my recollection that a number of countries simultaneously came out with th...
Lord Beamish | 513 c712 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend refers to page 26 of the Red Book, which states at paragraph 1.63 that""the Governmen...
Chris Leslie | 513 c712-3 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more. It would not be in order to stray too far from the topic of corporation tax,...
Andrew Love | 513 c713 (Link to this contribution)
May I correct something my hon. Friend has said? Most of the measures the previous Government introd...
Chris Leslie | 513 c713-4 (Link to this contribution)
That is entirely so. Those with significant financial wherewithal—the corporate advisers, the consul...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 513 c710 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment 34, page 1, line 6, at end add-
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Chris Leslie | 513 c710-1 (Link to this contribution)
My amendment is quite simple. It does not seek to alter the rate of corporation tax suggested in the...
David Gauke | 513 c708-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend, who brings me to my next point.
The Government see the disti...
John McDonnell | 513 c709 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Minister's assurance that information on the tax gap will continue to be publi...
David Gauke | 513 c706-8 (Link to this contribution)
Before responding to amendment 11, I would like thank my hon. Friend the Member for Lincoln (Karl Mc...
John Redwood | 513 c708 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend reinforces my point: avoidance covers a variety of different things. In this case, it...
Kwasi Kwarteng | 513 c709 (Link to this contribution)
What was said was that simplicity aided the avoidance of loopholes, and that complexity led to more ...
John McDonnell | 513 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I was talking about what had been experienced in the past, but we can all sign up to the pious state...
David Gauke | 513 c709 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman's points have been noted. Today's debate is the second on this matter in which I ...
John McDonnell | 513 c709 (Link to this contribution)
I think that the debate has been helpful to Members on both sides of the Committee. An attempt has b...
Stephen Timms | 513 c706 (Link to this contribution)
I think it would still be difficult, complex and cumbersome. A judgment will have to be made about w...
Chris Leslie | 513 c710 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 21, page 1, line 6, at end add—
Stephen Timms | 513 c704-5 (Link to this contribution)
No, we were successful in maintaining a competitive business tax system in the UK. It is true, of co...
Matt Hancock | 513 c705 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has just admitted that since 1997, in respect of avoidance or evasion of co...
Stephen Timms | 513 c705 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry if I misled the hon. Gentleman into thinking that the figure was reduced by only £3 billi...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c705 (Link to this contribution)
The shadow Minister makes a point about the success of the disclosure scheme. It has been successful...
Stephen Timms | 513 c703-4 (Link to this contribution)
HMRC, for which I was responsible, has a very difficult task on its hands. I was persuaded, and rema...
Gavin Williamson | 513 c704 (Link to this contribution)
In 1997, we had the 11th lowest rate of corporation tax, whereas in 2010 we have only the 23rd lowes...
Stephen Timms | 513 c704 (Link to this contribution)
I believe that it is important, as the previous Government made clear was their continuing intention...
Gavin Williamson | 513 c704 (Link to this contribution)
When global companies are looking across the globe to where they should locate their headquarters, i...
Stephen Timms | 513 c705 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman, who knows a lot about these matters, is right that this is one of the subjects t...
Kwasi Kwarteng | 513 c702-3 (Link to this contribution)
Clearly, we have laws, but people are also going to try to pay the minimum amount of tax that they c...
Stephen Timms | 513 c703 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to subscribe to the view that the tax code should be as simple as possible, and I look fo...
John Redwood | 513 c702 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is quite right to say that there can be an arms race, but would he also ack...
Stephen Timms | 513 c702 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right about that. I entirely accept that that often happens, ...
Gavin Williamson | 513 c700 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point, although more people becoming incorporated as limited...
Stephen Timms | 513 c701-2 (Link to this contribution)
I join others in congratulating the hon. Member for Lincoln (Karl McCartney) on his maiden speech. H...
Andrew Love | 513 c700 (Link to this contribution)
On small businesses, is there not some concern that unincorporated individuals will now incorporate ...
Andrew George | 513 c703 (Link to this contribution)
Of course we all agree that we should seek the holy grail of a more simplified tax system, but what ...
Stephen Timms | 513 c703 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. There are some flagrant examples of that, not least in the banki...
George Mudie | 513 c703 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way. I am sorry, I should have said "the shadow Minister"—old habits...
Chris Leslie | 513 c715-6 (Link to this contribution)
I would not want to set the hare running across the City of London that the long arm of the law is n...
Chris Leslie | 513 c716 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Lady makes her case. We can all, in hindsight, say that regulatory improvements should clea...
Andrea Leadsom | 513 c716 (Link to this contribution)
The banking sector is far from being given a free ride by this Government. We are absolutely not goi...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
Order. It is "the hon. Gentleman", not "you".
Chris Leslie | 513 c716 (Link to this contribution)
Quite, and this is important. We could send a signal from this House that we, as politicians and rep...
Lord Beamish | 513 c716 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Member for South Northamptonshire (Andrea Leadsom) has just said that we should not have a ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
That is the case, and we have seen the glee with which the banking industry reacted after the Budget...
Clive Efford | 513 c716-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend, because his probing is uncovering who is winning the arguments on t...
Ian Lucas | 513 c714 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend as confused as I am by the Government's trumpeted aim of rebalancing the economy, ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c714 (Link to this contribution)
That is especially true over the longer term, and, as I was saying, although clause 1 refers only to...
Lord Beamish | 513 c714 (Link to this contribution)
Reference has already been made to Barclays, whose full-year profits increased, I understand, by 92%...
Chris Leslie | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right. Before the general election, there was a lot of tough talk and rhetoric fro...
Lord Beamish | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
It is not just the general public who feel that way. On 20 April 2010, the now Deputy Prime Minister...
Chris Leslie | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
I just wanted to place the hon. Lady's comments in their particular context.
It is certainly true t...
Andrea Leadsom | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
It was 10 years ago.
Chris Leslie | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Lady who, I am sure, would have wanted to declare an interest had she been...
Andrea Leadsom | 513 c714-5 (Link to this contribution)
Is the hon. Gentleman confusing a healthy banking sector that can contribute to the regeneration of ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c714 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. This is a very perplexing set of Budget measures and if we have the chance to debate clause ...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c700 (Link to this contribution)
The case for a simple tax regime is well made. Had the Government abandoned capital allowances and t...
Gavin Williamson | 513 c700 (Link to this contribution)
I am obviously far below the pay grade of my hon. Friends on the Front Bench, but I am sure that the...
Clive Efford | 513 c699 (Link to this contribution)
My point is that that was the sum total of the right hon. Gentleman's contribution on that subject. ...
Gavin Williamson | 513 c700 (Link to this contribution)
I shall try to be brief, as I was always told that brevity is a virtue. I am sure that many hon. Mem...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c698 (Link to this contribution)
May I ask the hon. Gentleman to put a number on that? What is his estimate of the value of lost reve...
Clive Efford | 513 c698 (Link to this contribution)
I could not agree more. If I were to start listing some of the harsher items in the Budget, such as ...
Clive Efford | 513 c699 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend's intervention needs no comment from me, other than to say that it is an excellent ex...
George Mudie | 513 c699 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that it would be a shame to let this debate go by without mentioning the a...
Clive Efford | 513 c698-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a point that I could repeat. Cutbacks in Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs ...
John Redwood | 513 c696-7 (Link to this contribution)
Fine—that is a very good linguistic point, and if the right hon. Gentleman wishes to define tax avoi...
Clive Efford | 513 c697-8 (Link to this contribution)
I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Lincoln (Karl McCartney), who made his maiden speech. Many of u...
Clive Efford | 513 c698 (Link to this contribution)
The point, on which I believe we are all in agreement, is that everyone should pay the tax that they...
Andrew Love | 513 c698 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend believe that there is a tax gap, as I think all Opposition Members do? Whether t...
Mark Tami | 513 c696 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman talks about avoidance all the time, but is it not about the Government givi...
Mark Tami | 513 c696 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
John Redwood | 513 c696 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has made my point beautifully. I have just said that one man's avoidance is anoth...
Stephen Timms | 513 c696 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is uncharacteristically abusing the English language. To say that something...
John Redwood | 513 c696 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman shakes his head, but what else is it? Why are people investing more than they oth...
John Redwood | 513 c695-6 (Link to this contribution)
As the hon. Gentleman knows, I am all in favour of more oversight by this House, and the more inform...
John Redwood | 513 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I do not necessarily disagree about the need for us to consider another report on tax avoidance and ...
John McDonnell | 513 c695 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that response. Successive Governments have pragmatically examined the latest tax a...
John Redwood | 513 c695 (Link to this contribution)
It would clearly be a false economy to cut back on the number of staff needed to tackle serious case...
John McDonnell | 513 c695 (Link to this contribution)
To follow up on the question of my right hon. Friend the Member for East Ham (Stephen Timms), are th...
Andrew Love | 513 c694 (Link to this contribution)
Given the thrust of the right hon. Gentleman's remarks, does he agree with my hon. Friend the Member...
John Redwood | 513 c694 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to get drawn into the moral issue of deprecating or not deprecating: what I am interes...
Stephen Timms | 513 c694 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend the Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) asked a telling question, and I am not sure what...
John Redwood | 513 c693-4 (Link to this contribution)
Has the hon. Gentleman been in the Chamber while I have been talking? The first part of my speech wa...
John Redwood | 513 c692-3 (Link to this contribution)
Let me start by saying a few words about my new hon. Friend the Member for Lincoln (Karl McCartney)....
Clive Efford | 513 c693 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in the right hon. Gentleman's train of thought, but will he clarify something? Is he...
John McDonnell | 513 c688 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the point that the hon. Gentleman is making. My amendment tackles tax evasion, which is...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c688 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is making his case extremely well, but surely he should be pushing at open door, ...
John McDonnell | 513 c688-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is why I was hoping my amendment would achieve consensus in this House, although that might be ...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 513 c689 (Link to this contribution)
I call Karl McCartney. May I just remind Members that this is a maiden speech?
Andrew Love | 513 c687 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that any such report dealing with HMRC must also deal with the difficultie...
Sajid Javid | 513 c688 (Link to this contribution)
May I say that there seems to be a big confusion between tax evasion and tax avoidance? The hon. Gen...
John McDonnell | 513 c687-8 (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate the point that my hon. Friend makes. I accept that there have been issues relating to a...
David Gauke | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
I believe that the overall effects for this period balance out, but I shall write to the right hon. ...
Stephen Timms | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has made the point, however, that most of the gain is in fact income tax, which surely ...
David Gauke | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
I think we will see more of that behavioural effect as time goes by, but I am not sure that that wil...
Andrew George | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
May I return the Exchequer Secretary to the subject of the "composition of income" behavioural impac...
David Gauke | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
The assumption is that there is an ongoing gain—that we will gain more in income tax as a consequenc...
Stephen Timms | 513 c763 (Link to this contribution)
I do not propose to press this to a vote. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, ...
David Ward | 513 c762 (Link to this contribution)
There is a time lag, which is why the receipts are not shown for this year. There is also a bringing...
David Gauke | 513 c762-3 (Link to this contribution)
I will write to my hon. Friend to explain further why there is no yield in the current year, but I a...
David Gauke | 513 c751 (Link to this contribution)
Of course, our proposals go beyond that. The explicit aim of this Government is to have the best cor...
Stephen Timms | 513 c751 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman comment on my question about whether it is an explicit aim of the Government...
David Gauke | 513 c753 (Link to this contribution)
The amendment would set the capital gains tax rate at 18% for personal representatives of the deceas...
Stephen Timms | 513 c752 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 30, page 6, leave out lines 13 to 16 and insert—
David Gauke | 513 c749 (Link to this contribution)
In the Budget, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor announced a programme of measures aimed at improv...
Chris Leslie | 513 c748-9 (Link to this contribution)
I do not agree that the private sector is crowded out in that way. I do not think that there is quit...
David Gauke | 513 c750-1 (Link to this contribution)
The usual approach has been that the Finance Bill sets the small companies rate in-year, just as it ...
Stephen Timms | 513 c749-50 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister says that it is normal practice to do what the Bill does, but as far as I know, there h...
Andrew Bridgen | 513 c748 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman not appreciate that there is no money for the private sector from the banks ...
Stephen Timms | 513 c761 (Link to this contribution)
Why is no yield specified for the current year?
David Gauke | 513 c760-1 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 2 and schedule 1 introduce the changes to capital gains tax from 23 June 2010, as we have hea...
Andrew George | 513 c759-60 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hayes and Harlington (John McDonnell). I am pleased t...
John McDonnell | 513 c758-9 (Link to this contribution)
Following on from my right hon. Friend's exposition, I want to speak briefly to amendment 10, which ...
Stephen Timms | 513 c756-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his kind remarks, and to the Minister for his generous remar...
Paul Uppal | 513 c755-6 (Link to this contribution)
I pay tribute to the right hon. Gentleman. It is good to see him in Committee. As a new Member, I wa...
Stephen Timms | 513 c754-5 (Link to this contribution)
The amendments are probing amendments. We are keen to understand the thinking that led to the figure...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 513 c753 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
amendment 32, page 6, line 20, leave out '...
Stephen Timms | 513 c753 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 31, page 6, line 16, leave out '28%' and insert '25%'.
Stephen Timms | 513 c753 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy not to force a vote, and I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by lea...
Stephen Timms | 513 c741 (Link to this contribution)
I am disappointed by that response. I am disappointed that my hon. Friend the Member for Brent North...
Stephen Timms | 513 c742-4 (Link to this contribution)
We have had useful and important debates about the amendments to clause 1, but some important points...
Chair of Committees of the Whole House | 513 c735 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The background noise is a little high. Will Members please keep it down?
Andrew George | 513 c735 (Link to this contribution)
The corollary to the corporation tax cut is the banking levy, but although I respect the information...
Chris Leslie | 513 c735 (Link to this contribution)
Having heard what the Minister had to say, I am not convinced that he makes a case for giving away £...
David Gauke | 513 c735 (Link to this contribution)
Beginning tomorrow, we will consult on the bank levy. The intention is to find a means of discouragi...
David Gauke | 513 c740-1 (Link to this contribution)
As I have already explained, the Chancellor or the Exchequer set out a business tax package in the B...
Stephen Timms | 513 c739-40 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 49, page 1, line 6, at end add—
David Gauke | 513 c741 (Link to this contribution)
As I said a moment ago, the changes to capital allowances will take effect from 2012, and we believe...
Barry Gardiner | 513 c741 (Link to this contribution)
Why does the Minister believe that, if the Budget begins to work and we see businesses begin to pull...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c747-8 (Link to this contribution)
When the hon. Gentleman and his hon. Friend talk about a private sector investment strike, I wonder ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c746-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am very disturbed that the Chancellor's measures are coming at a time when our manufacturing indus...
Barry Gardiner | 513 c746 (Link to this contribution)
Is my hon. Friend aware of the predicated growth, contained in the Government's figures, of the priv...
Chris Leslie | 513 c746 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful, Mr Benton, that you have seen fit to allow a stand part debate on this important clau...
Stephen Timms | 513 c744-6 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, and I am certainly not arguing against the long-established mechanism allowing tax losses to...
Chris Leslie | 513 c747 (Link to this contribution)
That is a moot point and I would not go to the wall to argue against reducing corporation tax in thi...
Barry Gardiner | 513 c747 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend rightly talks about the need for companies to pay dividends and the benefits of that ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c747 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed that is the case. I know that my hon. Friend has done a great deal of work on some of the ana...
Jon Trickett | 513 c747 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend's argument. Has not the largest single factor in this rec...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c744 (Link to this contribution)
I am listening carefully to the right hon. Gentleman's comments, and I rise to seek the following cl...
Chris Leslie | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a fair point. I have tried to define "banking institutions" by referring to...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise, Mr Amess.
Matt Hancock | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Can the hon. Gentleman supply any evidence that the corporation tax cut is larger than the £2.5 bill...
Chris Leslie | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
If some analysts, who on the secondary evidence before me are saying publicly that they believe that...
Matt Hancock | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman have any evidence to suggest that the reduction in corporation tax on banks ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Yes I do, and at the outset of my comments, I quoted a series of highly professional and well-respec...
Edward Timpson | 513 c717-8 (Link to this contribution)
I have been considering the hon. Gentleman's amendment carefully and listening to what he has had to...
Chris Leslie | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted that that hon. Gentleman is thinking about supporting the amendment. That is incredib...
Ian Lucas | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
I commend my hon. Friend's response, because he has just said exactly what I was going to say about ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
That is absolutely the case, and it perhaps betrays the enlightenment of Government Members on this ...
Lord Beamish | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that that is completely at odds with the rhetoric we heard from both the L...
Chris Leslie | 513 c718 (Link to this contribution)
If they are saying that the corporation tax cashback, as my hon. Friend says, will offset the levy, ...
Andrew George | 513 c720-1 (Link to this contribution)
I want to speak in support of amendment 50, which is tabled in my name and those of my colleagues. I...
Chris Leslie | 513 c719 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. I cannot keep track of the turns and U-turns, with so many permutations, that the Government...
Andrea Leadsom | 513 c719 (Link to this contribution)
I want to clarify. It is to all our benefit to have a healthy financial services sector. Obviously, ...
Chris Leslie | 513 c719-20 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in the hon. Lady's arguments. She is saying that it would be wrong for the banks to ...
Sajid Javid | 513 c728-9 (Link to this contribution)
That is a misleading question, and it does not go to the heart of the matter. It is a nice try, but ...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c729 (Link to this contribution)
Technically, those are the three ways in which capital can be raised. Is the hon. Gentleman making a...
Sajid Javid | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
I am not detached from small business, because my father was a small business man, I grew up in a sm...
Stephen Timms | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Was the hon. Gentleman surprised that the Office for Budget Responsibility reduced its estimate of f...
Sajid Javid | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
That is not relevant. The hon. Gentleman can read the entry in the declaration of interests.
If we ...
Lord Beamish | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
I know that the hon. Gentleman is a banker, and therefore possibly a bit detached from the SME secto...
Stephen Timms | 513 c731 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure about the figure of £700 million. I hope that the hon. Gentleman is not telling us tha...
Matt Hancock | 513 c731 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman may have misheard my earlier comment. Can he be surprised about the Chancel...
Stephen Timms | 513 c730 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Exchequer Secretary for his kind remarks on my return to the Dispatch Box. He, ...
Sajid Javid | 513 c729-30 (Link to this contribution)
No, not at all. We have to separate the two issues. The levy is about working towards a way of takin...
David Gauke | 513 c732-3 (Link to this contribution)
Amendments 21, 34 and 50 relate to the impact of the corporation tax cuts on the banking sector. Ame...
David Gauke | 513 c733 (Link to this contribution)
That is not an accusation of ambiguity that I could lay at the hon. Gentleman's door.
Chris Leslie | 513 c733 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister at least for that recognition, but I wonder whether he could take some time to ...
Andrew George | 513 c731 (Link to this contribution)
The Red Book costings on page 19, in table 3 refer to the yield from the bank levy across fiscal yea...
Stephen Timms | 513 c731-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that clarification. However, my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham East describ...
Matt Hancock | 513 c732 (Link to this contribution)
I shall keep this contribution extremely brief, given the hour. I was surprised by some of the argum...
Chris Leslie | 513 c734 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is saying that £400 million is a small amount to be given in cashback to the banks in t...
David Gauke | 513 c734 (Link to this contribution)
Let me turn to the heart of this matter, because we have had quite a lengthy debate on it. We have h...
David Gauke | 513 c734 (Link to this contribution)
Our aim was to rebalance the tax system. We are requiring the banking sector to pay at least £2 bill...
Andrew George | 513 c722-3 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman's point is, in a way, a development of an argument that was made earlier, when he...
Andrew George | 513 c721 (Link to this contribution)
I am a free-ranging Liberal Democrat Back Bencher and I am quite clear that I want to probe this iss...
Geraint Davies | 513 c722 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman will be aware that there is a banking levy in the United States. Does he agree th...
Lord Beamish | 513 c723-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for St Ives (Andrew George), who has become a rather lone...
Andrew George | 513 c723 (Link to this contribution)
Opposition spokesmen and the Treasury Ministers will have heard that intervention, which further emb...
Lord Beamish | 513 c723 (Link to this contribution)
Although we are rewarding the banking sector, the proposals on annual investment allowances, which a...
Andrew George | 513 c723 (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure that I am qualified to advise, but I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is right. If the ...
Lord Beamish | 513 c724-5 (Link to this contribution)
That is true. The Government's drive to reduce public spending has very little to do with reducing t...
Chris Leslie | 513 c724 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is making an extremely strong case for the amendments. Is it not the case that the Go...
Matt Hancock | 513 c725 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for inviting me to intervene. He has just admitted something that the hon...
Lord Beamish | 513 c725-6 (Link to this contribution)
No, I am sorry, we do not admit that. I am not sure what point the hon. Gentleman is trying to make ...
Clive Efford | 513 c726 (Link to this contribution)
To correct the hon. Member for West Suffolk (Matthew Hancock), it is just not true to say that the b...
Lord Beamish | 513 c726 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for my hon. Friend's intervention, which completely blows a hole in the myth that this...
Ian Lucas | 513 c726 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that what makes it even worse is the fact that the banks are still not len...
Sajid Javid | 513 c727 (Link to this contribution)
I shall keep my contribution brief. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Lincoln (Karl McCar...
Lord Beamish | 513 c726-7 (Link to this contribution)
That is a good point. We have heard about banking codes and other ways of forcing the banks into len...
Sajid Javid | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I am shareholder in a bank. [Hon. Members: "Which one?"] It is called Deutsche Bank.
Chris Leslie | 513 c728 (Link to this contribution)
There is not a Register of Members' Financial Interests currently published, so for the benefit of t...
Lord Beamish | 513 c715 (Link to this contribution)
Let me add another example of the feeding frenzy. In December 2008, the current Prime Minister told ...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 513 c717 (Link to this contribution)
A few moments ago, you were talking about the banking industry that had received the "largesse" of t...
John Redwood | 513 c699 (Link to this contribution)
I wish to correct the record. I made it very clear that if a company were evading tax, we should thr...
Chris Leslie | 513 c748 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. There are liquidity problems across the economy and they remain. There are rumours in the ai...
John McDonnell | 513 c687 (Link to this contribution)
That is an interesting point. Tax compliance should be a duty in law, so there should be a requireme...
Baroness Burt of Solihull | 513 c684 (Link to this contribution)
I am interested in the discussion of avoidance and evasion, but does the hon. Gentleman not agree th...
Stewart Hosie | 513 c706 (Link to this contribution)
I understand the argument and I have heard it before—last year, in fact. I welcome what the shadow M...
Kwasi Kwarteng | 513 c698 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman clarify his basic position? Does he believe that in principle corporations o...
Clive Efford | 513 c721 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the hon. Gentleman in advance for going back to what was said during the general elec...
Ian Lucas | 513 c723 (Link to this contribution)
I commend the hon. Gentleman on tabling the amendment, but will he clarify the reference to""all oth...
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