Political Parties and Elections Bill. Lords Report stage second day. Concluded. Bill reported as amended (HL Bill 54).
Political Parties and Elections Bill
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711 c1067-126,1140-72Session
2008-09Legislative stage
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Political Parties and Elections Bill. As amended on report.
Sunday, 7 June 2009
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House of Lords
Sunday, 7 June 2009
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House of Lords
Political Parties and Elections Bill. As amended in Grand Committee.
Wednesday, 13 May 2009
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House of Lords
Wednesday, 13 May 2009
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Proceeding contributions
Earl Ferrers | 711 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have not taken part in the debates on this Bill before, but I hope that your Lordships w...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 711 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hesitate to dissent from a view expressed by the noble Lord, Lord Neill of Bladen, but I...
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Lord Tyler | 711 c1067 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 38
38: After Clause 16, insert the following new Clause—
"£50,000 cap on donations
(1) In...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1068-71 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I should make clear the rationale of the grouping of this amendment with others. A...
Lord Goodhart | 711 c1071-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Amendments 64, 65 and 66 would provide tax relief for small donations. Amendments 64 and 6...
Lord Neill of Bladen | 711 c1073 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 64. As the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, pointed out, I was c...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 711 c1077-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my name is down in support of Amendment 38 covering the proposal to insert a £50,000 cap o...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 711 c1077 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sorry that I have not been able for various reasons to participate earlier in discuss...
Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 711 c1075-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 64 and 66, and to some extent to Amendment 65. As the noble Lo...
Viscount Tenby | 711 c1075 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise with some diffidence—and, perhaps the noble Earl, Lord Ferrers, will be pleased to ...
Lord Bates | 711 c1080-2 (Link to this contribution)
I am coming to that, my Lords. As the noble Lord points out, there is also a communications allowanc...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1082-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this has been a very interesting debate in which many noble Lords have taken part. I hope ...
Lord Bates | 711 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord’s concern is not necessarily with me but with Sir Hayden Phillips’s princip...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 711 c1080 (Link to this contribution)
Communications.
Lord Goodhart | 711 c1079 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, to say that nothing can be done until everything can be done is, surely, a wholly absurd p...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1079 (Link to this contribution)
A very Conservative one, my Lords.
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 711 c1086 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has acknowledged on behalf of the Government the desirability of broadening i...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 711 c1087 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I deliberately refrained from intervening until the noble Lord was close to the end of his...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1086-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is not the role of the Government to advise political parties on how to broaden their s...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1087-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it falls to me to respond on the whole group of amendments, which I shall do as briefly as...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1087 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I did not particularly notice a question in that speech. I am drawing a clear distinction....
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1091-2 (Link to this contribution)
Schedule 4: Reports of gifts received by unincorporated associations making donations: Schedule to b...
Lord Goodhart | 711 c1092-3 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 64
64: After Schedule 4, insert the following new Schedule—
"SCHEDULE
Tax relief on donat...
Lord Goodhart | 711 c1093 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wish to test the opinion of the House.
Division on Amendment 64
Contents 83; Not-Conte...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1095 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 67
67: After Clause 17, insert the following new Clause—
"National spending limit
In the ...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1095-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we now turn to the discussions that have taken place over many years about constraint on s...
Lord Greaves | 711 c1098 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord seems to be repeating what he said in the debate on the previous group. Reg...
Lord Bates | 711 c1097-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these amendments are in the same vein as the previous group that we discussed. I can there...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1098 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I quote from the Companion: ""A member of the House who is speaking may be interrupted wit...
Lord Bates | 711 c1098 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was intending to go on to talk about all the additional benefits that the incumbent has ...
Lord Bates | 711 c1098 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the direct answer to the question is yes, I do think that there is a comparison. That is w...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1102-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for the very careful and positive way in which he has respon...
Lord Norton of Louth | 711 c1103 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 74
74: After Clause 20, insert the following new Clause—
"Abolition of the edited elector...
Lord Bates | 711 c1098-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I will humbly continue the debate. I recognise the rules of the House and would not want t...
Lord Bach | 711 c1099-102 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this group of proposed amendments seeks to introduce a radical change in the regulation of...
Lord Bach | 711 c1107 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Norton of Louth, for his amendment and for the way i...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 711 c1107 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I did say in my remarks that the Electoral Commission had concerns about the drafting of t...
Lord Norton of Louth | 711 c1103-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is the first amendment I have moved that has been the subject of a campaign; I have r...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 711 c1105-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support my noble friend. I have been astonished by the amount of paper that I have recei...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 711 c1106 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, every possible argument in favour of this extremely sensible proposal has been put forward...
Lord Norton of Louth | 711 c1110 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have spoken. In addition to the bodies I mentioned that sup...
Lord Bach | 711 c1108-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord is being fair; I hope he thinks that I have been fair in response.
This am...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1115 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Clause 21 removes the requirements on candidates to provide their full address on statemen...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1116 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful that we have had an opportunity to discuss this important issue this evening...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 711 c1114 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall be brief. At Second Reading, I intervened on the speech of my noble friend Lord Ho...
Lord Bates | 711 c1114-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, having listened to the contributions and having found the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord ...
Lord Monson | 711 c1113 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when I first read about this amendment in the press, it seemed to me a good one and well w...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 711 c1113-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I spoke in favour of the amendment in Grand Committee. I remain sympathetic to it and run ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 711 c1112-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, will know that unfortunately I dissent from the position that ...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1118-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I must first of all apologise on behalf of my noble friend Lord Steel of Aikwood. He was h...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1118 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 76A
76A: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause—
"Description of candidates
(1)...
Lord Henley | 711 c1120 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, briefly, I have some sympathy for what is behind this amendment. Like the noble Lord, Lord...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1120-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment seeks to prevent the use by political parties of descriptions on nomination ...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1122 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all those who have contributed to the debate, although I must say that I ...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1122 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 23: Filling vacant European Parliament seats in Northern Ireland
Amendment 77
77: Clause 23...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1122-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, Clause 23 provides for regulations to be made that would permit a vacancy in a Northern Ir...
Lord Henley | 711 c1123 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have one query on which the noble Lord can no doubt help me. What happens if the two nom...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 711 c1123 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in Grand Committee I moved an amendment which in a sense was overtaken by the events that ...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1123 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if the nominating officers could not agree on a replacement and no replacement was nominat...
Baroness Hamwee | 711 c1124-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 80. I appreciate that it may seem a little impertinent, or...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1125 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment seeks to provide that the Greater London returning officer should be eligib...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1124 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 78
78: Clause 23, page 25, line 17, after "(a)" insert "or (aa)"
Amendment 78 agreed.
Baroness Hamwee | 711 c1124 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 24: Local returning officers for elections to the European Parliament
Amendment 79
79: Clau...
Lord Henley | 711 c1140 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 81
81: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—
"Absent voting: personal identif...
Lord Henley | 711 c1140-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 82. We put forward similar amendments in Committee, as a w...
Baroness Hamwee | 711 c1125 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am extremely grateful for the acceptance of the amendments and the recognition of the ex...
Baroness Hamwee | 711 c1126 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 80
80: Clause 24, page 25, line 46, at end insert—
"( ) After subsection (8) there is ins...
Lord Henley | 711 c1123 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, is the position that, on those occasions, there would have to be a by-election for just on...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1123-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, one has to be satisfied at some point that one has done the best that one can, and I belie...
Lord Bach | 711 c1172 (Link to this contribution)
In the Title
Amendment 125
125: In the Title, line 2, leave out "and expenditure and" and insert "...
Lord Bach | 711 c1172 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as a result of amendments that have been made since its introduction, the Bill now deals i...
Lord Bach | 711 c1170 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 32 : Schemes under section 31: proposals, consultation and evaluation
Amendment 120
120: Cl...
Lord Bach | 711 c1171 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 121
121: After Clause 32, insert the following new Clause—
"Meaning of expressions relati...
Lord Bach | 711 c1171 (Link to this contribution)
Schedule 6: Repeals
Amendments 122 and 123
122: Schedule 6, page 76, line 42, at end insert—
123...
Lord Bach | 711 c1172 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 35: Transitional provision
Amendment 124
124: Clause 35, page 36, line 7, leave out from se...
Lord Bach | 711 c1169-70 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 114
114: Clause 29, page 32, line 46, at end insert—
"( ) In paragraph 13 of that Schedul...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 711 c1169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as Amendment 113 has been agreed to, Amendment 114 should not refer to page 32, line 46.
Lord Bach | 711 c1170 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 31: Schemes for provision of data to registration officers
Amendments 116 to 119
116: Claus...
Lord Bach | 711 c1170 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 30: Provision supplementing section 29
Amendment 115
115: Clause 30, page 33, leave out lin...
Lord Bach | 711 c1164-5 (Link to this contribution)
Amendments 99 to 102
99: Clause 28, page 29, line 42, leave out "the Secretary of State may require...
Lord Henley | 711 c1165-6 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 103
103: After Clause 28, insert the following new Clause—
"Personal identifiers at the b...
Lord Bach | 711 c1169 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 112
112: Clause 29, page 32, line 44, at end insert—
"( ) after sub-paragraph (6) there i...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 711 c1169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as Amendment 111 has been agreed to, Amendment 112 should not refer to page 32, line 44.
Lord Bach | 711 c1169 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 113
113: Clause 29, page 32, line 45, leave out paragraph (d) and insert—
"(d) sub-paragr...
Lord Bach | 711 c1167-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment would require electors to produce evidence of their identity in order to be ...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1166-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, all that I want to say at this stage is that I know from friends who have experience of No...
Lord Bach | 711 c1168-9 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 29 : Obligatory provision of identifying information
Amendments 104 to 111
104: Clause 29, ...
Lord Henley | 711 c1168 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not think that that was satisfactory. I am minded to consider what to do about it in ...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 711 c1155 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken, particularly the Minister. Of course there i...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1156-7 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 85
85: Before Clause 25, insert the following new Clause—
"Establishment of corporation s...
Lord Bach | 711 c1164 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 27 : Regulations amending or supplementing section 26
Amendments 90 to 95
90: Clause 27, pa...
Lord Bach | 711 c1162-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords. Amendment 98 is an important amendment. It provides the Elec...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1161-2 (Link to this contribution)
My noble Lords, I think the noble Lord, Lord Henley, means the Third Reading for a further look at t...
Lord Henley | 711 c1160-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for explaining the government amendments. I wish to commen...
Lord Bach | 711 c1160 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Government have tabled a number of amendments to the individual registration clauses. ...
Lord Bach | 711 c1160 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 26: Voluntary provision of identifying information
Amendment 89
89: Clause 26, page 27, lin...
Lord Bach | 711 c1159 (Link to this contribution)
Clause 25: CORE information and action to be taken by electoral registration officers
Amendments 86...
Lord Bach | 711 c1146 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords. I should have praised, or at least mentioned, the noble...
Lord Greaves | 711 c1147-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 84:
84: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—
"Rejected postal vot...
Lord Bates | 711 c1146-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s comments, as I am for the intervention of the noble Lord,...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1150-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment would require a returning officer to keep information on postal votes that h...
Lord Henley | 711 c1149-50 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall comment briefly on the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. We o...
Lord Greaves | 711 c1152 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful for that reply. I agree with a great deal of what the Minister has said...
Lord Bates | 711 c1154 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall comment briefly on the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Pearson, and, in d...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 711 c1153-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I mentioned at col. 893 during our last proceedings, this amendment is inspired by the ...
Lord Henley | 711 c1142 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I appreciate that it is possibly too early. I, too, remember watching the results on Sunda...
Lord Bach | 711 c1142 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall respond quickly. The elections happened only a few days ago and we await the Elect...
Lord Henley | 711 c1142 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful that the noble Lord has confirmed that this matter can be dealt with by seco...
Lord Bach | 711 c1141-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the introduction of personal identifiers for postal voters under the Electoral Administrat...
Lord Bates | 711 c1144-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am happy to take such interventions at any time. It is a very welcome intervention and I...
Lord Bach | 711 c1144 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps the noble Lord will not mind giving way. We were very impressed by what he had to ...
Lord Bates | 711 c1143-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment stands in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Henley. It deals with ser...
Lord Bates | 711 c1142 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 83
83: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—
"Service Registration
(1) Sectio...
Lord Craig of Radley | 711 c1145 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am obviously very interested in this subject. I should like to be quite clear that it is...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1145 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister will recall that in Grand Committee we, too, were concerned about this issue,...
Lord Bates | 711 c1078-9 (Link to this contribution)
In speaking to these amendments, perhaps I may preface my remarks by apologising to the noble Lord, ...
Lord Henley | 711 c1166 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this amendment brings in personal identifiers at the ballot box. I spoke on this issue in ...
Lord Bach | 711 c1154-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the amendment seeks to ensure that all ballot papers are handed out in polling stations wi...
Lord Bates | 711 c1106-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in Committee my noble friend Lord Henley and I tabled an amendment that was similar in eff...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1107 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to reiterate the point made by my noble friend Lord Rennard in Grand Committee when...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 711 c1157-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am moving these amendments today as they are necessary to the successful implementation ...
Lord Greaves | 711 c1098 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, does the noble Lord, therefore, not think that the Conservatives ought to be matching that...
Lord Tyler | 711 c1110 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 76
76: Clause 21, leave out Clause 21
Lord Tyler | 711 c1110-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is an important issue not least because, as yet, Members of the other place have had ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 711 c1120 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to speak on this amendment, because I think it is an important issue. The reality i...
Lord Greaves | 711 c1119 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very pleased that the Liberal Democrat Front Bench has now come around to the view th...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 711 c1152-3 (Link to this contribution)
Amendment 84A
84A: After Clause 24, insert the following new Clause—
"Ballot papers
(1) Except in t...
Lord Goodhart | 711 c1073 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, perhaps I could explain. Amendment 38 will be voted on separately and then there will be a...
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