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Education and Skills Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 21 July 2008, in the House of Lords.
Education and Skills Bill. Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 57-81, 83-95, 98-136, 138-146, 148, 150-153 and 155 agreed to. Clauses 82, 96-97, 137, 147, 149 and 154 agreed to as amended. Schedules 1 and 2 agreed to as amended. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 80).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

703 c1514-31,1544-79,1592-642 

Session

2007-08

Department

Department for Children, Schools and Families

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

Education and Skills Bill. As amended in Committee.
Monday, 21 July 2008
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Education and Skills Bill. Brought from the Commons. (Explanatory notes HL Bill 58-EN published).
Wednesday, 14 May 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Schools: Inspection
Monday, 21 July 2008
Written statements
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Education Act 1997
Friday, 21 March 1997
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Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999
Thursday, 11 November 1999
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Education Act 1996
Wednesday, 24 July 1996
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Lucas | 703 c1640 (Link to this contribution) Ofqual already has a totally incomprehensible website, which my noble friend can try and make sense ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we can circulate some background information about Ofqual to all Members of the Commi...

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Lord Adonis | 703 c1641-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 238: 238: Schedule 1, page 117, line 8, at end insert— ““Welfare Reform and Pe...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1640-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 233A to 233B: 233A: Clause 154, page 100, line 40, leave out ““58 to”” and i...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1640 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 231C: 231C: Clause 149, page 98, line 35, at end insert— ““( ) In this Act— ““...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1640 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 231A to 231B: 231A: Clause 147, page 98, line 9, at end insert— ““( ) an ord...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1642 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 239: 239: Schedule 2, page 119, line 28, at end insert— On Question, amendmen...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1635-6 (Link to this contribution) My name is also attached to the Question whether this clause should stand part of the Bill. I must d...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1636 (Link to this contribution) I say to the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, that when I cut shrubs down to the base in my garden, they grow...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1634-5 (Link to this contribution) My difficulties with Clause 142 stem not so much from what it does—not that I am clear what that is—...
Lord Avebury | 703 c1633-4 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Minister for his continuing interest in the problems of the GRT commu...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1632-3 (Link to this contribution) I begin by paying tribute to the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, for his tireless work to raise awareness ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1631 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the aspiration behind this amendment. As the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, rightly pointed out...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1631 (Link to this contribution) I rise merely to assure the Committee that my noble friend has the warm support of his Front Bench i...
Lord Avebury | 703 c1629-31 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 230C: 230C: After Clause 139, insert the following new Clause— ““Traveller Edu...
Lord Elton | 703 c1628 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended that my amendment should draw us into the murky water of appeals; I share my nobl...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1628 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord, Lord Elton, withdraws the amendment, if that is what he intends to do, perhap...
Lord Elton | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) Can we expect to know more about Ofqual before Report? I should have declared an interest as my nobl...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1636 (Link to this contribution) I have great sympathy for the arguments articulated by my noble friends Lord Lucas and Lady Perry. T...
Lord Elton | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) I am disturbed by that. A risk-based approach presumably means that the QCA will retain the ability ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness’s points are well made and she has a strong depth of experience with which to mak...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) I do not share my noble friend’s optimism about the direction in which things are going. Perhaps she...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1639 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is right. We are creating an additional power for the QCA, which is intended to be a ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1638 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that she said at the beginning that the power to accredit whole provider o...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1636-8 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to the points made and have picked up on an interesting horticultural slan...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1638-9 (Link to this contribution) At this hour we should not continue the debate. The body does not have to accredit every individual ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1638 (Link to this contribution) I am hoping that my note will clarify that. I think the answer is yes, but we accept the noble Baron...
Lord Elton | 703 c1619-21 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 228C: 228C: Clause 138, page 90, line 37, after ““persons”” insert ““including...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1619 (Link to this contribution) In that case, I now beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendmen...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1619 (Link to this contribution) I do not have the detail of where the existing provision is, but I will write to the noble Lord.
Lord Lucas | 703 c1619 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness does so, let me say that the more we discuss how this will operate in prac...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1618 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely the case. Many children who do not thrive in one school may, perhaps after a peri...
Lord Elton | 703 c1618 (Link to this contribution) Presumably that would not be the function of the sending school, as it were, under these provisions;...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1618-9 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has made a number of specific points. First, schools must have regard to the guidance...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1619 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply and to others who have made very pertinent points. ...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1618 (Link to this contribution) I am looking at how this provision will be used. It will become an alternative to exclusion to quite...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1625-6 (Link to this contribution) I understand the sentiment articulated by my noble friend Lord Elton, which would allow pupils to pa...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1624-5 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Elton, has just pointed out, we have two amendments in this group, which bet...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1626-8 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Elton, asked me how provision for excluded pupils had improved in recent years....
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1621 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend’s amendment would make it clear that the imposition of educational provisions to imp...
Lord Elton | 703 c1621 (Link to this contribution) I reassure my noble friend that there is no element of appeal in what I suggested. It is simply that...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1621-2 (Link to this contribution) I will deal with the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Elton, about who needs to be told what. It ...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1622 (Link to this contribution) Does a school have the power to fund this placement, or will it have to look to the local authority ...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1622 (Link to this contribution) That depends on what this provision means. At the moment, schools fund a good deal of provision for ...
Lord Elton | 703 c1622 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord assures me that the child is always informed, and that he or she is usually heard. I ...
Lord Elton | 703 c1622-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 228E: 228E: After Clause 138, insert the following new Clause— ““Exclusion pro...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1615-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 228AA: 228AA: Clause 138, page 90, line 31, after ““pupil”” insert ““temporari...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1615 (Link to this contribution) Consulting now on the draft code would be in time for the admissions round which starts in 2010. If ...
Lord Elton | 703 c1615 (Link to this contribution) I do not quite follow that. The year 2010 is quite a long way off. Obviously I have missed something...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1615 (Link to this contribution) There is a good reason. By doing it this way, we ensure that the draft code will be able to come int...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1615 (Link to this contribution) I, too, wondered why the consultation could not have been undertaken earlier so that we could have k...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1614-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 228A: 228A: Clause 137, page 90, line 24, at end insert— ““(2) In relation to ...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1615 (Link to this contribution) It is a rather novel approach for the Government to legislate on school admissions first and consult...
Lord Glentoran | 703 c1614 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for those explanations. We are getting clearer in our communications abou...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1614 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may remind the Committee that we have always been at pains to make it clear in our discuss...
Lord Elton | 703 c1618 (Link to this contribution) Does this provision allow for a child to be sent to another school with a different specialism as it...
Lord Elton | 703 c1617 (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister now, or at a later stage, tell us a bit about how those contracted-out organisati...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1617 (Link to this contribution) Not all off-site educational provision is in the PRU category. I know that first-hand; I spoke recen...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1618 (Link to this contribution) My experience is that the inventive local authorities have created a whole range of alternative poss...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1617 (Link to this contribution) I should be happy to write to the noble Lord setting out examples of the other providers which opera...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1616-7 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 228AA seeks to add an explicit reference to referrals to off-site educational provisio...
Lord Elton | 703 c1617 (Link to this contribution) Everyone so far has spoken as if the child is automatically going to a PRU and nowhere else, but the...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1617 (Link to this contribution) In my experience, teachers have lots of ideas about where pupils should be sent.
Lord Lucas | 703 c1616 (Link to this contribution) This seems an interesting alternative to exclusion. Now you do not have to go through the whole diff...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1609-10 (Link to this contribution) I agree with a great deal of what the noble Baroness, Lady Morris of Bolton, said. Most special scho...
Lord Elton | 703 c1609 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. I suggest to her that if this amendment is smiled upon, at a later stage ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1609 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 226: 226: After Clause 129, insert the following new Clause— ““Restrictions on...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1611 (Link to this contribution) I make no apologies for bringing the matter back again, because it is a most important issue. I than...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1610 (Link to this contribution) I support this amendment. I have visited a number of special schools for children with special educa...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1610-1 (Link to this contribution) We had this debate on the Education and Inspections Bill, and I will say now what I said then. As Mi...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1614 (Link to this contribution) Again, the noble Lord displays great wisdom in these matters.
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1612-3 (Link to this contribution) It is with great pleasure—for me, anyway—that we return to a debate about framework powers. I am alm...
Lord Elton | 703 c1613-4 (Link to this contribution) On an optimistic note, there is an awful lot of amour propre in national Governments within our Unit...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1515 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 180: 180: Clause 59, page 33, line 19, at end insert— ““( ) the provision, in ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1515 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. It is sensible that a great deal of information about new careers is availa...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1515 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Verma and Lady Sharp, for their contributions. I am sure that the...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1516 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that. Because I have nothing to consider yet, I eagerly await her response ...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1514 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now again resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Mov...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1516 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 182: 182: Clause 60, page 33, line 32, after ““State”” insert ““or by at least...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1516 (Link to this contribution) Am I not right in thinking that Ofsted is the inspection machinery for Connexions? The fact that it ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1517 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 184A is in my name. Although it takes a slightly different tack from the other amendme...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1520 (Link to this contribution) Have they ever actually been used in any circumstances in any legislation that the noble Lord is cal...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1520 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure, but I will check and come back to the noble Lord and the noble Baroness on that.
Lord Adonis | 703 c1518-20 (Link to this contribution) Or indeed a Minister, as the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, so rightly says. These penalties are in ex...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1518 (Link to this contribution) My general criticism of current inspection methods is that they are not supportive enough. They do n...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1518 (Link to this contribution) I pity the teacher or head teacher who seeks to obstruct the noble Baroness, Lady Perry, in going ab...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 703 c1517 (Link to this contribution) In the light of that interesting exposition, will the Minister tell us whether the department knows ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1518 (Link to this contribution) I should have said earlier how much we on these Benches support the amendment of the noble Baroness,...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1520 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for his reply and for his understanding of my concern. The legisl...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1520-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his thoughtful response, and I thank all noble Lords who spoke on the group...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1521 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 185: 185: Clause 65, page 36, line 16, leave out from ““if”” to ““believes”” i...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1522 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendments. I am reminded more than anything else of the point that the noble Lord, Lo...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1521-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 186 and 187. Amendment No. 186 mirrors exactly Amendment No. 189, s...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1522-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall deal, first, with Amendment No. 185, moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Morris. I entirely ag...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1523-4 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is absolutely right that it is at the discretion of the local authority. However,...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1524 (Link to this contribution) I have here 31 pages of the draft guidance, which I shall be happy to circulate to the noble Barones...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1524 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. Yet again we are asked to take what is going to be in guidance o...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1525-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 190: 190: Clause 66, page 38, line 18, leave out from ““manner”” to end of lin...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 703 c1526 (Link to this contribution) I should point out that if this amendment is agreed to I cannot call Amendment No. 191.
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1524 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we all look forward to receiving it. Like the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, I circled t...
Baroness Warnock | 703 c1529 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendments in spirit, but I have certain reservations about naming any universities or...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1528-9 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, I support all the amendments. With the raising of the school leaving age, adequate—more tha...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1527-8 (Link to this contribution) I offer my warmest support to Amendment No. 194, which was tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp....
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1526-7 (Link to this contribution) In general, we on these Benches disagree with the thrust of most of these Conservative amendments. I...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1530-1 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is right that we do not propose to legislate to require the provision of informat...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1530 (Link to this contribution) Section 46 of the 1997 Act, as extended, covers years 7 to 11, ages 11 to 16, but does not provide f...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1529-30 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Warnock, speaks with great authority in this area. In my time at Oxford, He...
Lord Elton | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) If it is a matter of deletion and there is no question of recommital, I shall be even happier than I...
Lord Elton | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) I share the welcome that my noble friend gave to the noble Lord’s proposals. However, I have a proce...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that a lot of what the Government will bring forward will simply constitute a de...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) I echo that sentiment. This is a thoroughly good set of decisions. The noble Lord said that some 770...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) Because they were not suitable. However, I shall seek to provide the noble Lord with more refined in...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1600 (Link to this contribution) I was right to postpone my comments because it was clear that the Minister had made some important d...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) It aims to give them the information that is available through the conferring of approved status, bu...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1601 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. A visit to ensure that the school is appropriate is desirabl...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1600 (Link to this contribution) I will happily do so, although I have dealt with the substance of her points.
Lord Elton | 703 c1608 (Link to this contribution) It occurs to me that the noble Baroness has not alluded to the fact that she is taking from parents ...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1608 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply and for everyone who has commented. If my amendment...
Lord Elton | 703 c1606-7 (Link to this contribution) I share my noble friend’s discontent with these amendments. I do so, in part, as a former teacher. I...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1607-8 (Link to this contribution) The provision for a daily act of collective worship in schools dates back to 1944. All pupils must t...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1603-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 225A: 225A: Clause 127, page 70, line 28, leave out from ““education”” to end ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1606 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I cannot support the noble Baroness’s amendment. Our education system is based on t...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1603 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 223B and 223C: 223B: Clause 97, page 56, line 32, leave out ““or times”” 2...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1602 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 219A: 219A: Clause 82, page 50, line 32, at end insert— ““( ) This section doe...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1601-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. I now realise that I spoke so succinctly that I completely omitted to mention ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1579 (Link to this contribution) I was merely trying to put across that the last thing one wants to hear is that those who are trying...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1579 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. ...
Lord Glentoran | 703 c1592 (Link to this contribution) This is a probing question on a serious problem. In the light of the Government’s track record on da...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1576-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, for moving the amendment and allowing us to have this short d...
Lord Elton | 703 c1577-8 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness’s last remark was reassuring because the door is left open for her to do what the...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1578 (Link to this contribution) I am saying that, provided people have the literacy and numeracy skills to function in normal life, ...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1578 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness may not be surprised at my continuing confusion. She said clearly that paragraph ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1578 (Link to this contribution) I was referring to the fact that through Skills for Life and a whole range of initiatives we fund tr...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1578-9 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to interrupt the noble Baroness but I know that in a few minutes we will be going on t...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1597-600 (Link to this contribution) I have given a good deal of attention to Part 4 following the concerns raised by the Independent Sch...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1600 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister could write to me about those issues.
Lord Elton | 703 c1595 (Link to this contribution) There is no amendment to withdraw; we are debating clause stand part, so I feel that I can continue ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1595 (Link to this contribution) According to the page that I am on, the devolved authorities that we are talking about are the Scott...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1592-4 (Link to this contribution) I hope to reassure the noble Lord in responding to his questions, but if I have not answered him ful...
Lord Glentoran | 703 c1594-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her response, the latter part of which was of more note. When one fir...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1595-7 (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments and clause stand parts looks dauntingly large, but I will keep my comments ...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1597 (Link to this contribution) Would the Minister like to speak to his amendments in the group before I make my contribution?
Lord Elton | 703 c1595 (Link to this contribution) That means the equivalent of the Secretary of State in a devolved authority. Is his or her power to ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1595 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it is out of the bag; I think that it stays with the Welsh and Scottish Minister...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1567-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her generous response. I do not think that those last two notes helped her ...
Lord Elton | 703 c1567 (Link to this contribution) That last message was extraordinarily illuminating and could take us a long way as we study it betwe...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1567 (Link to this contribution) I shall attempt to respond. The noble Lord has a great deal of wisdom in his remarks. I had a wonder...
Lord Elton | 703 c1566-7 (Link to this contribution) I hope that we may share that letter. The Minister’s reply to my noble friend’s very humble amendmen...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1570 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her reply. I am delighted to hear that it is implicit in the Bill’s w...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1569-70 (Link to this contribution) I have a sense of déjà vu, because a year ago we debated the Local Government and Public Involvement...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1568 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Baroness who moved the amendment that it seems self-explanatory, and I hope v...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1568 (Link to this contribution) We have some sympathy with the amendment. It would have the Learning and Skills Council co-operate w...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1568 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 209A: 209A: Clause 71, page 42, line 18, at beginning insert ““co-operate wher...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1572 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Baroness can clear up a confusion for me. I understand that one of the qualify...
Lord Elton | 703 c1572 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Howe, has done the Committee a great service in making us look at experienc...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1573-4 (Link to this contribution) I can confirm that the noble Lord, Lord Dearing, has been in extensive contact with the department a...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1572-3 (Link to this contribution) The amendment removes the upper age limit for those who will receive free tuition. The idea is certa...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1571-2 (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, as the Committee would expect me to given some of the amend...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1570-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 210: 210: Clause 71, page 43, line 10, leave out ““but not the age of 25”” Th...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1575 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 210A: 210A: Clause 71, page 44, line 32, at end insert— ““( ) a specified voca...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1576 (Link to this contribution) We support the introduction of vocational subjects at level 1, to be included with level 1 in Englis...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1576 (Link to this contribution) I touched on this issue in discussing the previous amendment. I support the noble Baroness, Lady How...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1555 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her thoughtful response. I would have listened with interest to her notes. ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1554-5 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to speak to this amendment. Given the remarks made by the noble Baroness, Lady Verma,...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1554 (Link to this contribution) Those on these Benches have a great deal of sympathy for the amendments proposed by the noble Barone...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1560 (Link to this contribution) Every year I have the pleasure of receiving some work shadow students from Greenhead College in Hudd...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1557 (Link to this contribution) I shall to speak to the amendments in my name in this group, which have been tabled because I have c...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1555-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 203: 203: Clause 68, page 40, line 5, after ““statements)”” insert — ““(a) ““ ...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1562 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response to my amendments. Along with all Members of the Committee, I l...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1560-2 (Link to this contribution) With regard to Amendments Nos. 205, 206 and 207 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Verma, I ent...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1560 (Link to this contribution) I spoke to this amendment earlier. I am in favour of it. I will not take up the Committee’s time by ...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1562 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. I will read with interest what the report has to say before I comment further....
Lord Adonis | 703 c1562 (Link to this contribution) These decisions need to be taken case by case at the local level. I did not say that the other partn...
Lord Low of Dalston | 703 c1562 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness. I am still comparatively inexperienced in this place, and once ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1562 (Link to this contribution) I thought perhaps the noble Lord, Lord Low, might like to respond before I withdraw my amendment.
Baroness Verma | 703 c1563-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 208: 208: Clause 71, page 41, line 36, after ““their”” insert ““aspirations an...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1563 (Link to this contribution) I shall respond on Amendment No. 203 and make one or two remarks about Amendment No. 207A. I am deli...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1565-6 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Minister for clarification of what she said, to which I tried to listen very carefully. Th...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1564-5 (Link to this contribution) If only parliamentary draftsmen could be encouraged to listen to the noble Baroness’s plea for a mor...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 703 c1566 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to be flippant but while I was reading the speaking note I was thinking about Harry Po...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 703 c1546-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 198: 198: After Clause 66, insert the following new Clause— ““Personal, social...
Lord Lucas | 703 c1548 (Link to this contribution) I am not convinced of such a provision being almost an examined subject in schools. I see it as much...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1545-6 (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 195 of the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, seeks to ensure that the careers advice that sch...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1546 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to Members of the Committee who supported the amendment and to the Mini...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1545 (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Baroness, Lady Howe, in all aspects of her amendment. On Second Reading I mentio...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1545 (Link to this contribution) We on these Benches also support the noble Baroness, Lady Howe. The YWCA’s briefing notes that Ofste...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 703 c1531 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1531 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. This has been a short but worthwhile debate in which ma...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1549 (Link to this contribution) I have a lot of sympathy with what the noble Lord, Lord Lucas, said, but I wish we could leave every...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 703 c1553 (Link to this contribution) I was not quite quick enough on my maths when the Minister talked about the assessment of good and a...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1553 (Link to this contribution) I do not know the figure, but it was precisely to see that more are trained that we introduced the c...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 703 c1553 (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. There is a great deal of interest in thi...
Baroness Verma | 703 c1553-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 200: 200: Clause 67, page 39, line 27, leave out ““contract of employment or a...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1551 (Link to this contribution) I sympathise with the noble Lord, Lord Elton. I can think of no subject taught in schools that is le...
Lord Elton | 703 c1551 (Link to this contribution) I merely defend myself by saying that these people needed to complete the course in history to get t...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1551-2 (Link to this contribution) As an historian myself, I believe that you can turn the study of history to any eventuality and any ...
Lord Elton | 703 c1553 (Link to this contribution) I take on board everything that the noble Lord has said. I remain anxious about the teaching of pare...
Lord Elton | 703 c1549-50 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Garden of Frognal, for moving the amendment and apologise to the Co...
Baroness Walmsley | 703 c1550-1 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister thought he would be spared hearing me banging on about PSHE yet again. I s...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1523 (Link to this contribution) I understand what the Minister says, but I notice that new subsection (5) has ““may”” as distinct fr...
Lord Adonis | 703 c1603 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 223A: 223A: Clause 96, page 56, line 21, at end insert— ““( ) This section doe...
Lord Low of Dalston | 703 c1557-60 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment No. 207A, which has already been referred to by the noble Baronesses. Thi...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 703 c1616 (Link to this contribution) I have some concerns about the amendment. The aim of the provision is, quite simply, to improve the ...
Lord Glentoran | 703 c1611-2 (Link to this contribution) We come once again to a Welsh element of the Bill and something that we are getting quite used to do...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 703 c1524 (Link to this contribution) The Minister rightly says that there can be disputes with local authorities over what is and is not ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1578 (Link to this contribution) I am rather more disappointed by the answer to these amendments than was the case previously. Althou...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1574-5 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful indeed for the comments that have been made, and even for the doubts that one or ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 703 c1566 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her reply, although I am now confused at a somewhat higher level t...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 703 c1544-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 195: 195: Clause 66, page 38, line 25, at end insert ““, and ( ) any such advi...

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Disability
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Legislation

Education and Skills Bill 2007-08

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