Finance Bill. Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Committee negatived. Standing Order 47 having been dispensed with, Bill read a third time and passed.
Finance Bill
Debate on bills
and
Debates on select committee report on Friday, 18 July 2008,
in the House of Lords,
led by Lord Davies of Oldham.
The answering
member was Baroness Noakes.
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Marlesford | 703 c1466-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, all I can say after that is that I hope that the whole Cabinet reads every word of what my...
Lord Higgins | 703 c1462-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Vallance of Tummel, and to congratul...
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Lord Ryder of Wensum | 703 c1465-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Select Committee report is clear in language and piercing in thought. I shall not dela...
Lord Vallance of Tummel | 703 c1459-62 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am pleased to introduce the report of the Economic Affairs Committee on the Finance Bill...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1449-54 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill be now read a second time.
I am pleased to open the debate o...
Lord Newby | 703 c1483-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the Economic Affairs Committee on its report, because it highlights a centr...
Lord Marlesford | 703 c1468-70 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, my Lords, and certainly every GP—maybe even some Members of your Lordships’ House.
I shall mov...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1472 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I very much support getting rid of the 10p band, which was a great simplification. What I ...
Lord Peston | 703 c1470-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start with an apology to the noble Lord, Lord Vallance. I shall not be speaking about th...
Lord Stewartby | 703 c1473-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Peston, said that he was perhaps coming to the end of his time. Many ...
Lord Peston | 703 c1472-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I know about that, but I would not even have done that, which shows how terribly right-win...
Lord Northbrook | 703 c1479-83 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for introducing the debate. I agree that he sounded very compla...
Viscount Trenchard | 703 c1476-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for introducing the debate but I thought his approach was ex...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1495 (Link to this contribution)
It is the tax rules, my Lords.
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1494 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I cannot let the Minister get away with those assertions on fairness. Could he explain why...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1495 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the interesting issue as regards income inequality is the development of the super-rich in...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has moved away from the subject. Are the Government planning to abandon their...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am merely reflecting the fact that times require certain changes as regards the Governme...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I have indicated to noble Lords, the Government of course will evaluate their overall s...
Lord Ryder of Wensum | 703 c1494 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am surprised that the Minister is not answering the question. I have here the exact quot...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1494 (Link to this contribution)
Well, my Lords, the noble Lord refers to an article based on an official’s response to questions. I ...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1493 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister is still not answering the simple question, but he has also now introduced an...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1494 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, notice has been given of some changes with regard to the analysis of public expenditure an...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1491-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, and I am particularly gra...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1492 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I was at pains to point out that we would not yet see the evidence of the impact of the ch...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1492-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise to the Minister, but this really will not do. A serious story in the Times and...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1487 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pleasure to spend the last Friday before the Summer Recess debating the Finance Bi...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1488-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, of course I am not going to tell the noble Lord such a thing because we are not in governm...
Lord Northbrook | 703 c1500 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, will the Minister be able to write to me with answers to the queries in my speech which he...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1498 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Bach, is right to point that out, but I think that he would accept th...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1498-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, of course I respect the noble Baroness’s point that additional clarification is helpful to...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1496-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord has made his point and I have done my best to respond to it. We will have t...
Viscount Trenchard | 703 c1497 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for trying to address my point. I take it that he agrees with my poin...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1495 (Link to this contribution)
It is not our tax rules, my Lords, but a reflection of the fact that the Government have been succes...
Lord Peston | 703 c1495 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, could my noble friend remind noble Lords which Government stopped the index-linking of pen...
Lord Higgins | 703 c1496 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I understand it, it is not an issue of fraud. I understand that the accounts have not b...
Lord Newby | 703 c1485-7 (Link to this contribution)
No, my Lords, I do not think so, because a lot of this work, with all due respect to your Lordships,...
Lord Peston | 703 c1488 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, do I understand correctly that the noble Baroness is not going to tell us what the Governm...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1490 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for giving way. Is it not obvious that when the Chancellor, who re...
Lord Higgins | 703 c1485 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, rather than our setting up a new quango, could not precisely those three functions be carr...
Baroness Noakes | 703 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Forsyth is entirely correct: it was clearly designed to be a bit of t...
Lord Bach | 703 c1498 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not want in any way to curtail the debate. However, I should point out that although ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1495-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend. I do not need to repeat his remarks except to say that w...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 703 c1454-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this is an opportune moment to debate these matters. However, I am astonished that the Min...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1500 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for the chance to give that assurance.
On Question, Bill ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1492 (Link to this contribution)
In other words, my Lords, the charges against the Government are conjecture rather than anything tha...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 703 c1498 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hear what the noble Viscount says. He will know, however, that the Germans, for instance...
Notes
Debated with Lords motion to take note of the report of the Economic Affairs Committee on the Finance Bill 2008 (HL 117 2007-08).
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