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Council Tax

Legislative debate on Wednesday, 9 July 2008, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was Robert Neill.
Draft Council Tax Limitation (Maximum Amounts) (England) Order 2008. Debate on a motion to approve. Agreed to on division (277 votes to 45).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

478 c1482-511 

Session

2007-08

Department

Department for Communities and Local Government

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Related items

Council Tax Limitation (Maximum Amounts) (England) Order 2008
Thursday, 26 June 2008
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Local Government Finance Act 1992
Friday, 6 March 1992
Public acts

Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 478 c1482 (Link to this contribution) Before we start the debate, it may help if I offer the House guidance on the scope of debate on the ...
John Hayes | 478 c1502 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed. It is not only an implicit acknowledgement of the scale of the problem, but, as my righ...

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John Hayes | 478 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I shall happily give way to my hon. Friend, who is an assiduous champion of his constituents' intere...
John Hayes | 478 c1502-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend brings to the debate an understanding and a knowledge that I could not hope to emulat...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1502 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend is coming to the crux of his remarks. He is absolutely right that there ...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1505 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that the Lincolnshire force produced an economic recovery plan, which was su...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1503-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Mr. Hayes),...
John Hayes | 478 c1507 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend add a third request? He could echo my call for an urgent meeting between Ministe...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1505-7 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend makes a fundamental point, and he is right. The issue goes even fur...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1507 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right; if Ministers are willing, I will be more than happy to participa...
John Healey | 478 c1509 (Link to this contribution) I shall not give way; I am going to conclude on this point. On the contrary—and this is my final wo...
John Healey | 478 c1507-8 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to have the support of those on the Conservative Benches in introducing the order, even...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 478 c1497 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?
John Hayes | 478 c1498-9 (Link to this contribution) The characteristic that my right hon. and learned Friend is describing with such eloquence is that o...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1497-8 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way. I had to give way to the hon. Gentleman when he sat on these Benches. I am ...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1499 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend is eloquently putting the balanced case that is of great concern to...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1499 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has put it more eloquently than I have and I am extremely grateful to him. There has...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1499 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that that is right. Thinking back to when I had dealings with the formula, which I always ...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1499-500 (Link to this contribution) Incidentally, I find visitors from eastern Europe quite charming, especially those from Romania. My ...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1500 (Link to this contribution) There is some truth in that. May I speak as a barrister, just for a moment? I practise in the crimin...
John Hayes | 478 c1500-2 (Link to this contribution) It is an immense pleasure to follow my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Sleaford and Nor...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1502 (Link to this contribution) May I just refer to the point that my hon. Friend made about allowing the precept to rise by about 2...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 478 c1486 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend state the saving to a band D householder in Lincolnshire as a result of the meas...
John Healey | 478 c1486 (Link to this contribution) That is an important question; it is the question that many people in Lincolnshire will ask. The ans...
Keith Vaz | 478 c1488-9 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst (Robert Neill). We ser...
Keith Vaz | 478 c1489-90 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, the Select Committee may examine that subject in future. We are reaching the end of our six...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1487 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend will find that our hon. Friends will say that there is a structural prob...
Robert Neill | 478 c1487 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. and learned Friend for making that point, which he raised when the fu...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1487 (Link to this contribution) I want to make my hon. Friend aware that the operation of the funding formula is so penal in its imp...
Robert Neill | 478 c1487-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has reinforced the point. In the earlier debate, the Government were put on notice of...
Robert Neill | 478 c1493 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will take on board the fact that I quite deliberately said that the cappi...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1491-3 (Link to this contribution) This rare usage of the central check on council tax goes to show, with more significance than ever b...
Keith Vaz | 478 c1490-1 (Link to this contribution) As I said at the start, the hon. Gentleman knows much more about what is happening in Lincolnshire t...
John Hayes | 478 c1490 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point, but would he differentiate between the burden o...
Speaker | 478 c1493 (Link to this contribution) Were it not, I certainly would have stopped the hon. Gentleman, but I am sure that he has heard the ...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1493-4 (Link to this contribution) I am not surprised to see that, with all the contradictions in their policies, the Conservatives are...
John Hayes | 478 c1493 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This is a very short debate and many Lincolnshire Members w...
John Healey | 478 c1483-4 (Link to this contribution) The police authority told us that to put in place a balanced budget, it needed £5.3 million more tha...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1483 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has fairly said that this is to be effectively a standstill budget for Lincolnshire. Do...
John Healey | 478 c1483 (Link to this contribution) That will indeed be the case. We propose to designate Leicestershire, Warwickshire and Cheshire poli...
John Hayes | 478 c1484 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has acknowledged in the House that Lincolnshire has specific problems, and he was good ...
John Healey | 478 c1484 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is always assiduous in making a strong case for his area's interests, but the pol...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1484 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister has missed the principle. I served on Newcastle city council when it was capped...
John Healey | 478 c1484 (Link to this contribution) The decision reflects aspects of the case, to which we listened carefully and which we accepted, mad...
Mark Simmonds | 478 c1484 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way—he has been extremely generous. Does he accept and ackn...
John Healey | 478 c1486 (Link to this contribution) Lincolnshire proposed some costs for the likely rebilling exercise. In its press release responding ...
Robert Neill | 478 c1485 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to interrupt the Minister again. Simply for information, may I ask him whether any c...
John Healey | 478 c1485 (Link to this contribution) I am interested that the hon. Gentleman is saying that the Liberal Democrats would abolish council t...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1485 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to pursue a dialogue with the Minister, but he cannot have it both ways. Either he is ...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1489 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman said that the Home Affairs Committee had received many comments from chief ...
Viscount Hailsham | 478 c1497 (Link to this contribution) The House has just heard a rather disagreeable attack on my hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and C...
Lembit Opik | 478 c1493 (Link to this contribution) I simply do not understand why the hon. Gentleman feels that that intervention—eloquent though it wa...
Keith Vaz | 478 c1483 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend the Minister for the way in which both he and the Minister for Security, Coun...
John Healey | 478 c1482-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the draft Council Tax Limitation (Maximum Amounts) (England) Order 2008, which w...
Robert Neill | 478 c1486-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for the careful and courteous way in which he has introduced the order. I am su...
Lord Davies of Stamford | 478 c1494-7 (Link to this contribution) I was rather brought up to believe that the prime and foundational task of a Member of Parliament wa...
John Healey | 478 c1484-5 (Link to this contribution) These are reserve powers. The decision to cap is not one that the Government take lightly. I am the ...

Subjects

Council tax
Bedfordshire
Finance
Police
Local government finance
Police authorities
Norfolk
Warwickshire
Leicestershire
Portsmouth
Lincolnshire
Cheshire
Surrey
Lincolnshire Police Authority

Legislation

Council Tax Limitation (Maximum Amounts) (England) Order 2008

Contains statistics

Yes

Link

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