Greater London Authority Bill. Lords Committee stage fifth day. Clauses 38, 40-48, 51-56 agreed to. Clauses 39, 49 and 50 agreed to as amended. Schedule 2 agreed to. New clauses considered. Bill reported with amendments. (HL Bill 71 2006-07). Grand Committee held in the Moses room.
Greater London Authority Bill
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Greater London Authority Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 46-EN also published.
Wednesday, 28 February 2007
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Wednesday, 28 February 2007
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c4GC (Link to this contribution)
Of course, the noble Lord is quite right. The whole thing goes much wider than London, international...
Lord Newby | 692 c31-2GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may deal with that point immediately. The noble Lord, I think, said that he was in favour ...
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Lord Newby | 692 c36GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. I must say to the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham...
Baroness Andrews | 692 c43-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I believe that we made similar arguments in respect of the budget. The Mayor has responsibility for ...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c39GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
[Amen...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c46GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 120B:
120B: Clause 50, page 49, line 33, leave out ““(whenever passed or made)...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 692 c1GC (Link to this contribution)
Good afternoon, and welcome to the fifth day of Grand Committee on the Greater London Authority Bill...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c2-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I should like to give an example of what my noble friend has just said. In Section 41 of the princip...
Lord Rooker | 692 c9GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 107B:
107B: Clause 39, page 41, line 22, leave out ““to comply with any guidan...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c8-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to my Amendments Nos. 108 and 114. The purpose of tabling these clearly probing amendm...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c3-4GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 107:
107: After Clause 38, insert the following new Clause—
““General duties o...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c4GC (Link to this contribution)
I will happily reflect on that and write to the noble Baroness, sharing it with the Committee.
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c5GC (Link to this contribution)
We are in danger of agreeing about the same thing. I will move a somewhat similar amendment in a lit...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c5GC (Link to this contribution)
The Mayor currently has an informal climate change action plan in which he has set out targets as he...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c32-3GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Newby, has highlighted an important issue. What is disappointing about his amen...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 692 c31GC (Link to this contribution)
I was interested in the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Newby, and I cannot quibble at all with h...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c31GC (Link to this contribution)
I have no particular brief for the Government Office for London, but I become upset when the GLA is ...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c29GC (Link to this contribution)
I never thought of myself as a particularly imaginative person, but the Bill has made me realise tha...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c26-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 116:
116: Clause 49, page 49, line 16, at end insert—
““(8) Any constituent bo...
Baroness Andrews | 692 c39GC (Link to this contribution)
All I was going to say is there is another source of information in addition to the bills themselves...
Baroness Andrews | 692 c37-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate, and to my noble friends in partic...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c36-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 118:
118: After Clause 49, insert the following new Clause—
““Precepts
(1) The...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c33-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope to be able reassure the Committee about the issues raised in this short debate. I am hoping t...
Lord Rooker | 692 c13GC (Link to this contribution)
Well he cannot do it until the provisions come into force. We expect the Mayor to publish the timesc...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c15GC (Link to this contribution)
We are happyto consider carefully the principle behind this amendment and to explore a range of opti...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c15GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for her reply, and look forward to seeing what the Government come for...
Lord Rooker | 692 c12-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not nit-picking. The noble Baroness said that it was a probing amendment, but I homed in on tha...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c12GC (Link to this contribution)
For the record, I clearly stated that my amendment was merely a probing amendment to draw out exactl...
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c21GC (Link to this contribution)
I will take that up privately with the noble Lord later.
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c21-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply. Of course I will give him credit—low-carbon credit—for his very ...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c22GC (Link to this contribution)
had given notice of her intention to move Amendment No. 113:
113: Clause 40, page 43, leave out li...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c42-3GC (Link to this contribution)
I can never resist rising to a challenge, especially one posed by the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savo...
Baroness Andrews | 692 c43GC (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend has clearly provoked a significant debate. Given the degree of agreement between us ...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c41GC (Link to this contribution)
Fairly early on in his introduction of the amendment, the noble Lord said that he was in favour of L...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 692 c41-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I wonder whether my noble friend Lord Harris of Haringey might forgive me if I marginally disagree w...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c46GC (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely relieved to see the amendment, because there was a reference at an earlier stage to t...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c2GC (Link to this contribution)
I agree to consider this amendment. In tackling a problem like climate change, I acknowledge that th...
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c9-10GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 109:
109: Clause 40, page 42, line 12, leave out from beginning to end of line...
Lord Rooker | 692 c9GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to be thought discourteous, but I hope that what I have put on the record goes some wa...
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c11-2GC (Link to this contribution)
Our amendment removes the prescriptive list and the Government are saying that the strategy should b...
Lord Rooker | 692 c10-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I take what the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, said in putting his view on the record. I will not re...
Lord Rooker | 692 c12GC (Link to this contribution)
I was going to ask the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, and the noble Baroness about that. I pick on o...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c3GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her encouraging reply. This is the first time we have been in dialogue in C...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c4GC (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the climate change provisions in the Bill. My question only occurred to me about half an h...
Lord Graham of Edmonton | 692 c4GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that we are not making heavy weather of laying down, or postulating about, restricting the po...
Baroness Byford | 692 c5GC (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for arriving a few minutes late. The noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, referred to the differ...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c33GC (Link to this contribution)
Before we hear from the Government, I apologise to the Committee and to the noble Lord that the amen...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c27-9GC (Link to this contribution)
Clause 49 inserts new Section 401A into the Greater London Authority Act 1999, which relates to the ...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c37GC (Link to this contribution)
Is it not rather profligate with the planet’s resources to require that yet more paper be circulated...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c35-6GC (Link to this contribution)
The Minister’s response is very helpful. She has clearly outlined the role of the Government Office ...
Baroness Byford | 692 c17GC (Link to this contribution)
I add my support to the amendment. I suspect that the Minister will not like the words which the nob...
Lord Rooker | 692 c21GC (Link to this contribution)
No, I have to make this clear; the last thing that we need to do here is talk about government money...
Lord Rooker | 692 c17-20GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall do better than answer the point made by the noble Baroness, Lady Byford; I shall suggest a b...
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c20-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Basildon in Essex is about to build an anaerobic digestion plant, but that is for south Essex rather...
Baroness Byford | 692 c20GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for widening the debate as this subject is enormously important. I was put in t...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c45GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord might care to add that, in the case of the constituency Members with two or three bor...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c44-5GC (Link to this contribution)
It is always gratifying to be commended for originality. It does not necessarily mean that you get a...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 692 c45GC (Link to this contribution)
Will my noble friend give way? Is the point not that in conditions of it being known that two-thirds...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c1-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 105:
105: Clause 38, page 40, line 21, leave out ““, so far as relating to Gre...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c12GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Lord withdraws his amendment, will the Minister expand on the point? He said that t...
Baroness Hamwee | 692 c11GC (Link to this contribution)
While the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, is working on his retort, perhaps I may say that I am a lit...
Lord Rooker | 692 c5-8GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 107A:
107A: Clause 39, page 41, line 13, leave out ““to comply with any guidan...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c5GC (Link to this contribution)
The amendment makes clear the importance of tackling climate change in the Mayor’s strategic framewo...
Lord Newby | 692 c29-31GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 117:
117: After Clause 49, insert the following new Clause—
““Government Offic...
Baroness Andrews | 692 c29GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 116A:
116A: Clause 49, page 49, line 20, leave out from second ““in”” to end o...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 692 c37GC (Link to this contribution)
Once again, as a Westminster council tax payer, I make it clear that Westminster City Council’s bill...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c39GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that reply, which was not at all unexpected. However, it denies the effect ...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c36GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not sure whether I follow the logic of that. We were talking about the Government office for Lo...
Lord Hanningfield | 692 c13-4GC (Link to this contribution)
We are having quite a long debate on the same issues. It always rather annoys me when the Government...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c14GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 110:
110: Clause 40, page 42, line 24, after ““dioxide”” insert ““and other gr...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 692 c15-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 112:
112: Clause 40, page 42, line 29, after ““in”” insert ““clean or green””
...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c22-4GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 115:
115: Clause 43, page 46, line 4, at end insert—
““(3) Nothing in this Par...
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 692 c24-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I appreciate that in tabling Amendment No. 115 noble Lords opposite wish to ensure that the operatio...
Baroness Hanham | 692 c26GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her reply to the amendments. The response to Amendment No. 115 reinforces t...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c43GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps my noble friend will allow me to question that. I should like to be clear on why that argume...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c39-41GC (Link to this contribution)
moved AmendmentNo. 120A:
120A: After Clause 49, insert the following new Clause—
““Assembly’s powe...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c45GC (Link to this contribution)
I believe that that is now the case, although I had the benefit of having two boroughs in the area I...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 692 c45-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I was about to moveon to precisely that point, and say that that was a benefit of my amendment. Givi...
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