Legal Services Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage third day. Clause 70 agreed to. Clause 71 under consideration. Part 2 of 2 records.
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Lord Whitty | 688 c1080-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is part of the present structure that that aspect of, for example, buying a house is, theoretical...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1081 (Link to this contribution)
We created alternative business structures under Section 66 of the Courts and Legal Services Act 199...
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Lord Whitty | 688 c1079-80 (Link to this contribution)
I suppose I need to respond to the noble Lord. I apologise that I was not in the Chamber at the begi...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c1080 (Link to this contribution)
Does the noble Lord not agree that if that were to happen, competition in all sorts of fields in his...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c1077-9 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister told us that the alternative business structures, as set out in the Bill, are to achiev...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c1082 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that I did say that but that was in the context of the one person who says, ““I am a lay p...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c1081-2 (Link to this contribution)
I really cannot allow the Minister to get away with that, however pleasantly she puts it across. I a...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1082 (Link to this contribution)
Then the noble Lord will realise that I must have misheard him when he said that the noble Lord, Lor...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1092 (Link to this contribution)
It does not result in the full panoply of business structures. That is why I made the point about lo...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c1092 (Link to this contribution)
Can the noble Baroness enlighten us in relation to what I think the City of London solicitors are ge...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1094 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to detain the noble Lord, but the issue is the same whether it is a major company comi...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c1093-4 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness will not be surprised to hear that I am disappointed by her reply. This is a situ...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 688 c1094 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move that the House do now resume.
Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Kingsland | 688 c1094 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness has sought to underpin further the view that she expressed earlier. I shall go aw...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c1093 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for interrupting but I want the noble Baroness to answer my question, not speak motherho...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1093 (Link to this contribution)
The principles that we have set out within the Bill recognise that this is a low-risk situation. It ...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c1093 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Baroness and if she writes to me I shall understand better; possibly she ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1093 (Link to this contribution)
I was not trying to be motherhood and apple pie, not least because I do not like apple pie. I was tr...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c1087-8 (Link to this contribution)
I hope the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, will forgive me for returning to the suggestion of a...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1086-7 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the noble and learned Lord. Given that this is about members of the legal profession ta...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1082-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am pleased that the noble Lord believes—reasonably, I am sure—that the legal profession is for the...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 688 c1084 (Link to this contribution)
I intervene to ask one question: I have listened to the whole debate from beginning to end. Why has ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1083-4 (Link to this contribution)
It is his choice, not mine. I have already told him I think that he should. He talked about pro bono...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c1085 (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, raised an important point. The whole question of pilot scheme...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution)
My noble friend may recall that I said some while ago in answer to the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, t...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c1086 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful to be able to intervene, because in a sense I am a latecomer to this debate—...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1085-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord for putting forward those propositions. LDPs come into force when th...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
The proposal that the AA should be given an advantage—which is certainly how it would be perceived b...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c1091-2 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is quoting Sir David Clementi, and particularly Part F of his report. Yet he did not re...
Baroness Gould of Potternewton | 688 c1089 (Link to this contribution)
Amendments Nos. 108ZA and 108ZB have been incorrectly marshalled. I shall call Amendment No. 108ZB b...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c1089 (Link to this contribution)
I do not normally quote myself, but we have a principle in the courts that you can refer, if challen...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
I am not going to get into the processes for that, because I do not know what they were. In any proc...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 688 c1088 (Link to this contribution)
I have heard the Minister express that view about the difficulty of picking companies. It does not a...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c1090-1 (Link to this contribution)
Unsurprisingly, I am not inclined to accept this amendment. I want to explain the basis on which we ...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c1090 (Link to this contribution)
I agree strongly with the points that have been made. I understand that a large number of such situa...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c1090 (Link to this contribution)
I strongly agree with my noble friend. It is important to listen to the City of London Law Society i...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c1089-90 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 108ZB:
108ZB: Clause 71 , page 40, line 38, at end insert—
““provided that a b...
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