Childcare Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 1 to 5 agreed to. Clause under consideration.
Childcare Bill 2005-06
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Childcare Bill. Brought from Commons. Explanatory notes HL Bill 85-EN also published
Thursday, 9 March 2006
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Thursday, 9 March 2006
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Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c481-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 1, line 15, at end insert—"
““( ) their relationship with their parent...
Lord Adonis | 680 c477-80GC (Link to this contribution)
First, I join the noble Baroness in welcoming the fact that none of us had any contact with the DfES...
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Lord Adonis | 680 c532-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Earl and to other Members of the Committee for raising important issues s...
Viscount Simon | 680 c526GC (Link to this contribution)
We will suspend the proceedings and resume in 10 minutes.
[The Sitting was suspended for a Division...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c510GC (Link to this contribution)
If there is no module in PGCE training about child development, that is a great pity. There certainl...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c497GC (Link to this contribution)
May I ask the Minister a question in that respect? How long will the foundation stage profile have b...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c494GC (Link to this contribution)
I have, indeed, added my name to Amendments Nos. 3 and 5 and I am pleased that at last I can support...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c502-3GC (Link to this contribution)
As always, the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, speaks with great authority on these issues. I do not ...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c486GC (Link to this contribution)
That is clearly the case, and we are worried about children going to school without the ability to s...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c490-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the noble Baroness will forgive me for pressing this point. I am grateful to her for mak...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 680 c484-5GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness, Lady Morris of Bolton, has raised an important issue. I quite see that there are...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c477GC (Link to this contribution)
Although I would certainly agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Morris of Bolton, that childcare shou...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c539-40GC (Link to this contribution)
I endorse what the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, said on that final point; it is very important to b...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 680 c539GC (Link to this contribution)
I have one question about affordability in relation to the document Childcare Bill: Duty to Secure S...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c532GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may make a point that I omitted regarding quality. The sector is highly dependent on priva...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 680 c511-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I have a lot of sympathy with this amendment. It is a great and unusual pleasure for me to be sittin...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 680 c508-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I did not want to leave it on the record that everyone who was an inspector needed an early-years qu...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c509GC (Link to this contribution)
I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, said. I too would be concerned if people who had wo...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c509GC (Link to this contribution)
I think that I can put both noble Baronesses’ concerns to rest. I recall that Ofsted told me that wh...
Lord Adonis | 680 c508GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, one of the great beauties of Hansard is that one ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 680 c513GC (Link to this contribution)
I simply say that think this is not easy, although we could pretend that it is. If you are looking a...
Lord Adonis | 680 c497GC (Link to this contribution)
I believe that we have now had two years of full results from the foundation stage, and of course we...
Baroness Crawley | 680 c491GC (Link to this contribution)
Well, it is never enough. The noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, and her fellow Liberal Democrats are al...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c506GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may ask the Minister about inspection of early years childcare, which I hope is relevant t...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c507-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his response and the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, for making a point that I s...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 680 c485-6GC (Link to this contribution)
May I make a comment here? I did not mean to intervene on this particular amendment, but the researc...
Baroness Crawley | 680 c486-90GC (Link to this contribution)
We have had a very interesting discussion on this point. I am sure that noble Lords will agree that ...
Baroness Crawley | 680 c491GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the noble Earl, Lord Listowel. We should never be complacent, and while the Bill is about ca...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 680 c484GC (Link to this contribution)
The amendment provides an opportunity for me to make an intervention that I did not know how to make...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c475-7GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 7, leave out ““reduce inequalities between”” and insert ““show h...
Baroness Thomas of Walliswood | 680 c475GC (Link to this contribution)
I remind Members of the Committee that if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, t...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c481GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply and I thank the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, for giving a wonderful...
Lord Adonis | 680 c539GC (Link to this contribution)
I assure the noble Baroness that the phrase does not mean that and we are not looking in any way for...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c540GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister most sincerely for his painstaking and careful responses to this group of amend...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c522-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 11:"Page 4, line 7, at beginning insert ““The Secretary of State may require tha...
Lord Adonis | 680 c521-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very happy to be probed on this issue. Clause 5 needs to be read in conjunction with Clause105,...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c522GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his detailed and thoughtful response. I understand that the power would be ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 680 c532GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that we debate these matters on the facts. The facts given by the noble Baroness, Lady Morris...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c509-10GC (Link to this contribution)
Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, may I take this opportunity to highlight another ...
Lord Adonis | 680 c509GC (Link to this contribution)
With regard to the range of experience inspectors have, my advisers tell me that many inspectors hav...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c517-8GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 9:"Page 3, line 23, after ““with”” insert ““and promote co-operation between””"
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Baroness Crawley | 680 c518-20GC (Link to this contribution)
As the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, said, the amendment proposes replicating the wording about partn...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c517GC (Link to this contribution)
Hear, hear! I thank the Minister for his response and all Members of the Committee who have commente...
Lord Adonis | 680 c514-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank all Members of the Committee for their contributions to what has been a very thoughtful and ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c512-3GC (Link to this contribution)
If this Bill is to work, it is vital that as many stakeholders as possible are part of the process. ...
Lord Adonis | 680 c498-500GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not fully understand the noble Earl’s concern. It is precisely for that reason that the investm...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 680 c500GC (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister be a bit more specific about those powers, which sound pretty draconian? There may ...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c491-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank all Members of the Committee who have taken part in what, for two little amendments, has bee...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c492-4GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 16, leave out ““set targets for”” and insert ““establish procedu...
Lord Adonis | 680 c507GC (Link to this contribution)
I will look into precisely the issue that the noble Earl raises and write to him about it.
Lord Adonis | 680 c500GC (Link to this contribution)
I can assure the noble Baroness that I am not saying that. The powers to intervene are proportionate...
Lord Adonis | 680 c503-6GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that when the noble Baroness looks at the foundation stage profile, she will be persuaded tha...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c500GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his thorough answer. I can feel a whole debate coming on about localism and...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c485GC (Link to this contribution)
I listened with great interest to what the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, said on her first amendment ...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c491GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Baroness, but is she aware that that is only £500 per member of th...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c483-4GC (Link to this contribution)
The Easter holidays have clearly done the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, a great deal of good, despite...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c480-1GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may briefly intervene. What the Minister is saying puts me in mind of a recent conversatio...
Baroness Crawley | 680 c540GC (Link to this contribution)
This may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.
Viscount Simon | 680 c540GC (Link to this contribution)
The Committee stands adjourned until Wednesday 26 April at 3.45 pm.
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c520-1GC (Link to this contribution)
The Explanatory Notes explain that Clause 5,"““allows the Secretary of State to alter, by order, the...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c530-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 28 and 48, which are in my name. This debate is all about getting t...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c527-30GC (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to Amendments Nos. 12, 58 and 60 in this group, which stand in my name, and to comme...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c526-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall start with Amendment No. 31 in this grouping, which states:"““In discharging their duty unde...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c510-1GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 8:"Page 3, line 10, at end insert ““, and"
( ) young children””
The noble Bar...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c508GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that. I regret that I do not actually have in my hand the notes I made of t...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c520GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for her full reply. Someone once said—I cannot remember who; perhaps I should h...
Baroness Morris of Bolton | 680 c516-7GC (Link to this contribution)
Something that the noble Earl has just said reminded me that yesterday the noble Baroness, Lady Mass...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c516GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I may intervene briefly. I have been listening to the debate with great pleasure. I was thin...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 680 c513-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I join in and endorse what everyone has said on this. I also thank the Minister and his whole team f...
Lord Adonis | 680 c494-7GC (Link to this contribution)
Our justification for the target-setting power that we are taking is precisely to complement and to ...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c497-8GC (Link to this contribution)
A couple of matters have been raised in the debate on these amendments. First, I read with interest ...
Earl of Listowel | 680 c507GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his reply. Birth to three matters, which is the guidance that precedes and ...
Lord Adonis | 680 c506-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I am advised that early years inspections normally last for at least one day in a setting, which, I ...
Baroness Walmsley | 680 c500-2GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 7:"Page 2, line 8, at end insert—"
““( ) In exercising their functions, an Eng...
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