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Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill

Debate on bills on Thursday, 9 February 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Jim Murphy. The answering member was Oliver Heald.
Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion for proceedings in Committee, on Report and third reading agreed to on division (233 to 100). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal).

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Reference

442 c1048-106 

Session

2005-06

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Second reading

Procedure

Programme motions
Money resolutions

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Related items

Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill 2005-06. Explanatory Notes Bill 111-EN also published.
Wednesday, 11 January 2006
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Jim Murphy | 442 c1058-9 (Link to this contribution) On criminal penalties, the Bill gives a commitment not to go beyond a fine exceeding level 5. In add...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1060 (Link to this contribution) I am a little worried to hear the right hon. Gentleman say that. Perhaps I should go off script agai...

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Jim Murphy | 442 c1060-1 (Link to this contribution) In an unusually helpful contribution, my hon. Friend identifies an important issue. We are, of cours...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1061 (Link to this contribution) The central point that the Minister makes is that the House will still have the opportunity to debat...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. It is worth mentioning that Lord Holme, who is the Chairman of ...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) I have a long list, so I do not really think that I should trespass on the good will of the House.
Rob Marris | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) : My understanding of the £40 billion sum is that a large proportion of it—some £26 billion—consists...
David Howarth | 442 c1095-6 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, that would be an improvement. Of course, the disadvantage with draft regulations is that to ...
Douglas Carswell | 442 c1096-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Cambridge (David Howarth) and, indeed, my hon. Frien...
Jonathan Djanogly | 442 c1098 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very interesting debate and the value and weight of the contributions, from all part...
David Howarth | 442 c1093-4 (Link to this contribution) I want to speak about part 1 and confine my remarks to the constitutional aspects of the Bill. This ...
Rob Marris | 442 c1094 (Link to this contribution) Not the Hudson’s Bay Company.
David Howarth | 442 c1094-5 (Link to this contribution) Not common law companies, but almost any other body could be. The Minister has dealt with questions...
Rob Marris | 442 c1095 (Link to this contribution) As someone who, I think, holds the all-comers record, with 45 Back-Bench amendments accepted to a Go...
Stephen Hammond | 442 c1091-3 (Link to this contribution) I am honoured to follow my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood), who has spoken ...
Lord Bellingham | 442 c1093 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend will consider the case of the Financial Services Authority, which brought...
Stephen Hammond | 442 c1093 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s intervention is rather timely. As some hon. Members will know, the financial servic...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1103 (Link to this contribution) We would expect delivery of the administrative burdens project. We have contacted and interviewed mo...
Rob Marris | 442 c1103 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for those undertakings but I am mindful of the fact that at some dis...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1102 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will forgive me if I do not. I gave way for more than 20 minutes earl...
John Redwood | 442 c1102 (Link to this contribution) If the Bill passes into law, what big successes arising from it will the Government be able to point...
Rob Marris | 442 c1099 (Link to this contribution) I caution the hon. Gentleman about trusting business. By 2010, 10,000 people each year will die from...
Jonathan Djanogly | 442 c1099-101 (Link to this contribution) The intellectual paucity of that remark is such that I shall not even respond to it. After much tal...
John Redwood | 442 c1098 (Link to this contribution) Was my hon. Friend stunned, as I was, by the Minister’s proposition that we could have 1 per cent. p...
Jonathan Djanogly | 442 c1098-9 (Link to this contribution) It would be superb news for Great Britain plc. However, given that the Minister said that, one has t...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1103 (Link to this contribution) We anticipate discussion of that issue in the Standing Committee, on which my hon. Friend may be inc...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1064-7 (Link to this contribution) The Government are taking several overlapping measures, all of which remove power from the House and...
Rob Marris | 442 c1067 (Link to this contribution) I understood the Minister to have given two undertakings: first, that the procedure would not be use...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1067 (Link to this contribution) Whether the veto is put into the Bill or introduced by changing the Standing Orders, which might be ...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) That is my understanding, and the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West can now read that with i...
James Brokenshire | 442 c1064 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware of the Company Law Reform Bill, currently in another place, which includes p...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1062-4 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more. In fact, later in my speech I will talk about the one in, one out principle ...
Christopher Chope | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) : Can my hon. Friend confirm that the British Chambers of Commerce said that its estimate of £38.9 b...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) It is the ““Burdens Barometer”” produced by the British Chambers of Commerce. The hon. Member for No...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1070 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman envisage the possibility of an enlarged role for the Law Commission in looki...
David Heath | 442 c1070-1 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that the Law Commission is the right vehicle. I have enormous respect for it, but this...
David Heath | 442 c1069 (Link to this contribution) The wise words of the Father of the House ought to have struck home, even if the words of the hon. M...
Alan Williams | 442 c1068 (Link to this contribution) The Liaison Committee, like the hon. Member for North-East Hertfordshire (Mr. Heald), accepts that t...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1068 (Link to this contribution) I hope that it is not the case that we could override the sunset clause by an order under part 1, bu...
Rob Marris | 442 c1068 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members could use the Bill’s own procedures to remove the sunset clause.
Oliver Heald | 442 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. That applies to important issues, where conscience is often part of the equation, ...
David Heath | 442 c1067 (Link to this contribution) : Matters that may not appear controversial to the Government and Conservative and Liberal Democrat ...
John Hemming | 442 c1075 (Link to this contribution) As someone who, perhaps by mistake, got on to the Regulatory Reform Committee, I have made an intere...
Tony Wright | 442 c1071 (Link to this contribution) The Law Commission has just completed a report on post-legislative scrutiny. The fact that people do...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1071 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that Henry VIII was relatively innocent when compared with our curren...
David Heath | 442 c1071 (Link to this contribution) I am aware of it. However, I also know that the hon. Gentleman’s Committee has been talking about th...
Tony Wright | 442 c1073-4 (Link to this contribution) The Under-Secretary of State for the Cabinet Office, my hon. Friend the Member for East Renfrewshire...
David Heath | 442 c1071-3 (Link to this contribution) Our current Prime Minister has yet to abolish the monastic tradition and he has fewer wives. However...
Tony Wright | 442 c1074 (Link to this contribution) Occasionally, that is so. I do not want to digress but my first experience here was to sit on a Comm...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1074 (Link to this contribution) I accept that we often do not do as good a job as we should, but does not the hon. Gentleman think t...
Tony Wright | 442 c1074-5 (Link to this contribution) I accept that that can and sometimes does happen; I would dispute that that is routinely what happen...
John Redwood | 442 c1074 (Link to this contribution) Does not the hon. Gentleman agree that the difference between what is proposed and what currently ha...
Christopher Chope | 442 c1077-80 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Cannock Chase (Dr. Wright). I have been waiting to he...
Tony Wright | 442 c1075-7 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in that observation. I have not served on that Committee, but I am told by some who ...
John Redwood | 442 c1085-8 (Link to this contribution) I accept your reproof in good spirit, Madam Deputy Speaker. Yes, I will. The issue I wish to raise ...
Speaker | 442 c1085 (Link to this contribution) Order. Perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will now address his remarks to the Second Reading of the Bi...
John Redwood | 442 c1084-5 (Link to this contribution) The Under-Secretary showed great courtesy to the House. I got the impression that he, like many hon....
Alison Seabeck | 442 c1080-4 (Link to this contribution) First, I offer the House an explanation for the absence from the debate of the Chairman of the Selec...
John Redwood | 442 c1088-90 (Link to this contribution) That is where British leadership could come in. We should try to persuade like-minded member states ...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that one problem is that, once European law is implemented in a memb...
John Redwood | 442 c1088 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has put his finger on an important problem. I remember when I was a Minister cursed w...
Tony Wright | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is now dealing with a crucial point. Whatever Ministers say about the conditions, at so...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, as he often is. I know how closely he follows the procedures of parliamenta...
David Howarth | 442 c1055 (Link to this contribution) Is there not a problem here? All the alleged restrictions are worded so subjectively that none of th...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) The Government will be happy to be reasonable and listen to sensible suggestions during the Bill’s p...
John Redwood | 442 c1054 (Link to this contribution) The Minister kindly said that he would give way again in pursuit of my original question, and I thin...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1054-5 (Link to this contribution) In total, I think that 27 RROs were delivered under the 2001 Act. At the time of the Second and Thir...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1054 (Link to this contribution) The narrow definition did not allow us to implement specific regulatory reform orders, because of th...
Christopher Chope | 442 c1053-4 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister explain why the necessary safeguard in the 2001 Act which ensures that a reform pro...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1052-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. In his four or five years in the House, he has made a significan...
Jim Sheridan | 442 c1052 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right that we should not undermine good legislation passed by the House...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1051-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question, and I know that he has tabled a written question on the...
David Evennett | 442 c1052 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Jim Murphy | 442 c1052 (Link to this contribution) Let me make some progress first. The central issue is to find the most appropriate and effective me...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend, who as usual makes an important point. I will address the specific matter th...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1051 (Link to this contribution) I will make some progress first. Of course, I will give way as a matter of courtesy to the hon. Gent...
Mark Harper | 442 c1051 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned DEFRA. In relation to the comments of the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, Sout...
Rob Marris | 442 c1050 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has been going down the track of better regulation, no burdens on business and so on....
Jim Murphy | 442 c1050 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman nods. I am not sure what was announced this morning or last evening by his ...
John Redwood | 442 c1048 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister knows, I am a strong supporter of the idea of deregulation. Which measures would he ...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) As always, it is a delight to give way to the right hon. Gentleman. I am just disappointed that I no...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. In opening this debate, I would like to set...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1050 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will know that the British Chambers of Commerce produces its burdens on business ...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1050 (Link to this contribution) The British Chambers of Commerce, the Institute of Directors and all sorts of other important nation...
David Howarth | 442 c1049 (Link to this contribution) I think I just heard the Minister say that the purpose of the Bill is to bring forward non-contentio...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the one Liberal—an actual Liberal, rather than a Liberal Conservative—Back Bencher who has...
David Heath | 442 c1058 (Link to this contribution) I have to agree with the remark made by the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West (Rob Marris) f...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1057-8 (Link to this contribution) I should at this point remind the House that, within the past five years, the Government acknowledge...
Rob Marris | 442 c1058 (Link to this contribution) That is much better than the formal speech.
Jim Murphy | 442 c1057 (Link to this contribution) In effect, there is an operational right of veto under the terms of the 2001 Act, and ministerial as...
Rob Marris | 442 c1057 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I have misunderstood the protections offered by the Bill, but I ask my hon. Friend to clarif...
Oliver Heald | 442 c1057 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister remember that, when he gave evidence before the Procedure Committee—I was there—he...
Tony Wright | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) Following on from the previous intervention, will the Minister confirm that the Bill as drafted does...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) I know that it is voguish to change policies and positions in a couple of hours, but I am not tempte...
David Gauke | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) As a member of the Procedure Committee, I discussed the recommendations with the Minister earlier in...
John Redwood | 442 c1069 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that we need scrutiny before draft regulations are agreed in Brussels?...
David Leslie Taylor | 442 c1060 (Link to this contribution) The Government have said that the CBI is broadly in favour of the Bill, but what has been the reacti...
David Heath | 442 c1069-70 (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more. Most European legislatures conduct such matters much better than us. We need...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1056 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to say that, on the face of it, the Bill does not contain the right of veto,...
Jim Murphy | 442 c1101-2 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I shall respond to the debate and in doing so, it i...
Peter Bone | 442 c1088 (Link to this contribution) Is my right hon. Friend aware that the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments recently reviewed Eu...
David Heath | 442 c1061 (Link to this contribution) : I shall make this point now so that I do not need to do so later. I agree entirely with the hon. G...
Tony Wright | 442 c1062 (Link to this contribution) : This is all very interesting and we hear it regularly, but is not the problem precisely that, alon...

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