Transport (Wales) Bill. Report stage. New clause 1 debated and withdrawn. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question and Bill passed.
Transport (Wales) Bill
Debate on bills on Monday, 17 October 2005,
in the House of Commons,
led by Nick Ainger.
The answering
member was Bill Wiggin.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
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2005-06Chamber / Committee
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Transport (Wales) Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 4-EN also published
Thursday, 19 May 2005
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Proceeding contributions
John P Smith | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
My understanding is that the increase in funding to Welsh local authorities has been substantial ove...
David TC Davies | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
: Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is clearly a problem in funding those local authorities?
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John P Smith | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
I have no wish to go into that. My concern is to meet the challenge and improve access to the airpor...
Stephen Crabb | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
Who runs that?
John P Smith | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
My understanding is that the Bill strengthens the powers of the Welsh Assembly Government to direct ...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c655 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. All parties want that, but it is not covered by the Bill. Re...
John P Smith | 437 c654 (Link to this contribution)
I did not say in Europe, Madam Deputy Speaker. The hon. Gentleman is obviously not listening and not...
Nigel Evans | 437 c654 (Link to this contribution)
: I am devastated by the news that the hon. Gentleman has brought us about Catherine Zeta Jones. Per...
Speaker | 437 c654 (Link to this contribution)
Order. Once again I remind hon. Members that we are discussing Third Reading of the Transport (Wales...
John P Smith | 437 c654-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am extremely grateful for that ruling, Madam Deputy Speaker, because I would not want to answer th...
Daniel Kawczynski | 437 c659 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the hon. Gentleman agrees with me that improving rail services across the border in Engl...
Lembit Opik | 437 c659 (Link to this contribution)
It is a shame that people do that. We have enough trouble with Boeing without having enemies in our ...
Mark Tami | 437 c659 (Link to this contribution)
I am glad that the hon. Gentleman has made that point, because there was a great deal of concern whe...
Lembit Opik | 437 c658-9 (Link to this contribution)
My very next words were to have been, ““and that is why the Third Reading of this Bill is so importa...
Speaker | 437 c658 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I know that the hon. Gentleman has extensive knowledge of this subject, but perhaps he could ...
David Jones | 437 c657 (Link to this contribution)
Has the hon. Gentleman made any assessment of the demand for such a service? I recall that in 2003 A...
Lembit Opik | 437 c657-8 (Link to this contribution)
I can tell the hon. Gentleman that we have made some limited assessment of demand, although it is no...
David TC Davies | 437 c657 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman listens to what we say about air transport, but has he listened to what his colle...
Lembit Opik | 437 c657 (Link to this contribution)
That does not contradict what I am saying; in fact, it fits in with my point exactly. No one will ev...
Lembit Opik | 437 c655-7 (Link to this contribution)
I left my office in Montgomeryshire at 10.20 this morning and, thanks to the years of under-investme...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c650 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right but I think he is over-optimistic if he thinks that the Liberal Democrats wi...
David TC Davies | 437 c650 (Link to this contribution)
No doubt all Members will be pleased that my hon. Friend is so open-minded. Is he aware that the Lib...
Speaker | 437 c650 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I wonder if I could remind all hon. Members that we are debating the Third Reading of the Bil...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c650-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely adamant about his admiration for air transport. We are all worried ...
Lembit Opik | 437 c650 (Link to this contribution)
It was exactly for that reason that I wanted to ensure that the hon. Member for Leominster (Bill Wig...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c652 (Link to this contribution)
What led the hon. Gentleman to come up with the extraordinary accusation that I am not a supporter o...
John P Smith | 437 c651-2 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak briefly in support of the Third Reading of the Bill, which I warmly welcome. I congr...
Nick Ainger | 437 c645-7 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The Bill, which received its Second Readin...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c648-50 (Link to this contribution)
: I echo the Minister’s kind comments about the Chairman of the Select Committee, and indeed the Cha...
John P Smith | 437 c653 (Link to this contribution)
I want to think carefully before I answer that question. I believe that a direct link into the airpo...
Lembit Opik | 437 c653 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman agree that there is no long-term alternative to having a public transport li...
John P Smith | 437 c653 (Link to this contribution)
It certainly is absolutely outrageous that British Airways took its regional services away from the ...
Nigel Evans | 437 c652-3 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman that we need all possible links to Cardiff Wales airport to ensure t...
Stephen Crabb | 437 c654 (Link to this contribution)
How can Cardiff airport be the fastest growing in Europe if passenger numbers are falling?
John P Smith | 437 c653-4 (Link to this contribution)
I do not want to get involved in a childish tit-for-tat on Third Reading, Madam Deputy Speaker, when...
David TC Davies | 437 c653 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman acknowledge that the only thing preventing that from happening at the moment...
David TC Davies | 437 c652 (Link to this contribution)
Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Welsh Assembly Member for South Wales West, Alun Cairns, has do...
John P Smith | 437 c652 (Link to this contribution)
I have campaigned on the issue of surface access to Cardiff international airport for the past 20 ye...
John P Smith | 437 c652 (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry, Madam Deputy Speaker. Perhaps I misunderstood the hon. Gentleman, but I thought that in ...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c643 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is right, depending which was the more appropriate Secretary of State. Constituen...
Lembit Opik | 437 c643 (Link to this contribution)
From the way that the new clause is framed, it is not clear to me that that is the intention. The va...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c643 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that the Minister will give us assurances to allay my fears, but I appreciate the hon. Gentle...
Lembit Opik | 437 c643-4 (Link to this contribution)
I thought of little else during the weekend. If I had been able to call the hon. Gentleman on Friday...
Lembit Opik | 437 c644 (Link to this contribution)
Make it 80 years, then. Let us say that, after that time, there is a sharp divide between an Adminis...
Nick Ainger | 437 c644-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Member for Leominster (Bill Wiggin) for trusting the Government on this. I...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c645 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is doing a grand job of dealing with my concerns. He has talked about additional servic...
Nick Ainger | 437 c645 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman has now raised a different matter. The Bill is clear that, in the case of any add...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c645 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for dealing with the new clause and for taking my intervention. I am s...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c642 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is usually a sensible chap and I am always happy to accept interventions from him...
Chris Bryant | 437 c642 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman said that he particularly enjoyed giving way to me, so I am glad he has given way...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c641-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
With this provision, we seek to ensure that c...
Chris Bryant | 437 c642 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is trying to make mischief. Does he truly believe that it would be better to have...
Bill Wiggin | 437 c642-3 (Link to this contribution)
No. The hon. Gentleman should read the new clause. It seeks to ensure that any dispute would be refe...
Lembit Opik | 437 c643 (Link to this contribution)
Until I heard the comments of the hon. Member for Leominster (Bill Wiggin), the Conservative spokesp...
Lembit Opik | 437 c659-60 (Link to this contribution)
In normal circumstances I would criticise hon. Members who come late into a debate. However, as I ha...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 437 c660 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman applaud the initiative linked to the powers in the Bill that allows the Wels...
Lembit Opik | 437 c660-1 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman probably knows a little more about that service than I do. However, once the flow...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 437 c661 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that the Bill could lead to much more joined-up bus networks, which are so...
Sian C James | 437 c661 (Link to this contribution)
I agree. We are already working together in Swansea, East and west Wales on projects such as SWWITCH...
Hywel Williams | 437 c662 (Link to this contribution)
Far be it for me to defend the Minister or anyone else but, if memory serves, I seem to recall that ...
David Jones | 437 c662 (Link to this contribution)
Like my hon. Friend the Member for Leominster (Bill Wiggin), I broadly welcome the Bill, but I have ...
Mark Tami | 437 c663 (Link to this contribution)
: Does the hon. Gentleman accept, though, that Valley would serve north-west Wales? North-east Wales...
David Jones | 437 c662-3 (Link to this contribution)
That is not what the clause provides for. The power exists, and that might prove too much of a tempt...
David TC Davies | 437 c666 (Link to this contribution)
In the Conservative and Unionist party, we believe that we are all part of one big happy family in o...
Hywel Williams | 437 c666-7 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for that. Earlier, the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (Lembit Öpik) pray...
David TC Davies | 437 c667-8 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for this opportunity to add a brief comment to everything that has already been said. ...
David Jones | 437 c663 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I agree. What the hon. Gentleman says supports my argument. If an established airport such as L...
David Jones | 437 c663 (Link to this contribution)
I have no objection to the provision of what the hon. Gentleman called pump-priming money. A reasona...
Lembit Opik | 437 c663 (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps we are approaching consensus. If a business case can be made for investment in the infrastru...
Speaker | 437 c665 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that we cannot have a repeat of Second Reading. We are now consid...
Stephen Crabb | 437 c664-5 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to make a few remarks about the Bill before it goes to the other p...
Hywel Williams | 437 c666 (Link to this contribution)
I was glad to take part in the long, drawn-out and detailed consideration of the Bill, and I am equa...
Stephen Crabb | 437 c665-6 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise. Several people have expressed concern about the proposal to use taxpayers’ money to sup...
David TC Davies | 437 c669 (Link to this contribution)
In that case, Madam Deputy Speaker, this is probably not the moment for me to plead with the Ministe...
David TC Davies | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be more than happy to take interventions if anyone wants to discuss vehicles and what they t...
Mark Tami | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
What about caravans?
David TC Davies | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to you for reminding me of that, Madam Deputy Speaker.
It is because we recognise the...
Speaker | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I must remind the hon. Gentleman that we are discussing the Third Reading of the Transport (W...
Speaker | 437 c669 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I must remind the hon. Gentleman that, on Third Reading, we are discussing not what should be...
David TC Davies | 437 c668-9 (Link to this contribution)
I shall be happy to deal with that issue on a separate occasion.
I would like to talk about safety,...
Speaker | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I remind hon. Members on both sides of the House that, interesting though a discussion on...
Mark Tami | 437 c668 (Link to this contribution)
I am somewhat confused as to the hon. Gentleman’s view of speed cameras. I saw a grimace on the face...
Sian C James | 437 c661 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the opportunity to support the Bill’s Third Reading. We know that transport to, from and w...
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