My Lords, I support the Government’s intention behind the order. However, the fact that it is 20 pages long and that a number of noble Lords have made some pretty wide-ranging comments about its effectiveness indicates just how difficult the system is. Clearly the Government’s heart is in the right place but I think there is a bumpy road ahead, and maybe not just on these regulations.
In transport, we all know that the intention, and the policy, is to reduce CO2 emissions by 80 per cent in 40 years’ time, by 2050. We are a long way from that, as many noble Lords have said. It is very easy to say, ““We should do this and we should not do that””, and come up with a black-and-white approach. We need to have a more rounded approach and do everything possible because otherwise there is no chance at all of meeting those targets.
I worry about whether there is any joined-up government going on here. I read last week that the UK was the only EU member state to oppose the Commission’s plan to put a premium on CO2 emissions from the oil sands that are produced in Canada because of the additional CO2 produced as a result of that process. If we are trying to balance what is produced and how it is produced with the CO2 that comes from it, surely the Commission’s plans are very fair and reasonable. We can argue about the percentage but it appears to have a pretty disastrous effect on the environment there and if it is going to produce a great deal more CO2 as well, that should be reflected. I know that that is some way away from these regulations, but it is an example of how one can get tripped up by a policy, possibly without realising it.
The noble Lord, Lord Palmer, talked about some of the other issues to do with the change in policy. We have seen a change in policy recently on solar panels and the grants available for those. Again, it is probably fair and reasonable given the reduction in the prices that the panels are sold for, but it does not help industry invest in the right equipment for reasonable long-term production of whatever we are trying to produce. Again, several noble Lords have mentioned this in respect of the various feedstocks that we are considering today.
I recently came across a plan in Cornwall, where I live, to export domestic waste in 1 metre cubed blocks to Sweden for incineration and creation of electricity. At the same time, there is a plan to build an incinerator in Cornwall. Whether it goes ahead or not does not really matter, but why export it to Sweden when it can be burnt locally? Apparently it is a different type of waste, but if we are going to have to have different types of processing plants for all the things listed in these regulations, and if Government, for whatever reason, are going to change their policies on subsidies or feed-in prices or whatever, it is going to be quite difficult to get companies to invest in it. I question why we want to encourage the burning of sustainable waste from fisheries. There are enough problems with overfishing at the moment and we should not encourage anybody to fish more than they need to and say, ““We will make some money out of burning it””.
I fear there are going to be a lot of unintended consequences out of this order and other ones. I do not have a solution. We can try to burn less fuel by using electricity for those vehicles that can be powered electrically, if that is generated in a carbon-free manner. That cannot be done so easily for big trucks. My solution, as chairman of the Rail Freight Group, is to send much more long-distance stuff by rail. However, that is not the only answer. We must try all these different solutions. I plead with the Minister to try to end up with a policy that is as consistent across all the different modes of transport as possible and that will give the businesses that will do this work as much confidence as possible that their investment will get the rate of return that they were promised by government policy when they started down the road.
Renewable Transport Fuel Obligations (Amendment) Order 2011
Proceeding contribution from
Lord Berkeley
(Labour)
in the House of Lords on Monday, 5 December 2011.
It occurred during Debates on delegated legislation on Renewable Transport Fuel Obligations (Amendment) Order 2011.
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