Terrorism Prevention and Investigation Measures Bill

There is little time, so I shall try to put my speech in bullet point form. I have no problem with TPIMs being called ““control orders lite””. I believe we should think of evolution in security and I certainly think that we should look at experience. I do not think terrorists will be able to get away with terrorist acts when they are under investigation. I used to watch them in Northern Ireland, but they could not do anything once we had them under proper surveillance. If they are really innocent, they can always fully co-operate with the Government and get off a TPIM, control order or whatever as soon as possible. The threat comes from unknown people. We all know that, as all these attacks have come from people whom the security services have not been able to identify. I had a big problem with relocation, but I was reassured by what the Minister said about enhanced TPIMs—that we could do something about the matter quite quickly. I do not think that we have by any means reached a definitive solution as yet. We are in an evolutionary process. No one likes control orders, TPIMs or anything like them, but we do not have any choice. The threat will change over time and our reaction to it will have to change over time. We will revisit many times in future the problem of what to do with people who want to destroy our people. Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time. The House divided: Ayes 297, Noes 221.