My Lords, I find it slightly surprising that the Bill is being introduced by a Peer elected under the House of Lords Act 1999, although I note that it is supported by the noble Lords, Lord Strabolgi and Lord Addington. The noble Lord,Lord Avebury, is usually vigilant and courageous in supporting minorities. In effect, however, he is pulling up the drawbridge on a minority of which he is one of the original members.
On politics.co.uk on 13 March, the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, is quoted as saying that the by-election, "““process ensures that replacements are drawn from those who were not seen as useful by their colleagues””."
When the original 92 were selected—this certainly applies to those on the Conservative Benches—the election of the Front-Bench spokesman, my noble friend Lord De Mauley, completely invalidated that point. My noble friend was not even on the radar screen in 1999, and could not stand for election as his father was still alive. I also challenge the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, on the by-elections of the noble Viscounts, Lord Eccles, Lord Trenchard and Lord Ullswater, and the noble Earl, Lord Caithness, all of whom we saw and continue to see as making important contributions to the House, as have those on other Benches who have been elected.
As many speakers have already said, one of the main points of keeping the 92 hereditary Peers was to act as a catalyst for further reform of the House. I reinforce, as other speakers such as my noble friend Lord Campbell of Alloway have done, what the noble and learned Lord the Lord Chancellor said on the Floor of the House on 30 March 1999—that ““the 10 per cent””, or the 92, "““will go only when stage two has taken place. So it is a guarantee that it will take place””."
He added that the amendment proposed by Lord Weatherill, "““would provide for the interim retention of one in 10 of the hereditary Peers, 75 out of the existing 750, plus 15 hereditary office-holders, until the second stage of House of Lords reform has taken place. The amendment reflects a compromise negotiated between Privy Councillors on Privy Council terms ""and binding in honour on all those who have come to give it their assent””.—[Official Report, 30/3/99; col. 207.]"
Since 1999, the most significant reform vote came when the other place voted this year for a fully elected, or predominantly elected, House of Lords. I am not in favour of this personally but, in the end, if it becomes a manifesto commitment, the House must consider it accordingly. The current system will cease to operate, I believe, only when this reform goes through. Just because stage 2 may be a long way away does not change the situation.
In the mean time, piecemeal Bills such as this do nothing to help the process of reform. I firmly believe that issues of major constitutional importance should not be legislated for in Private Members’ Bills.
House of Lords (Amendment) Bill [HL]
Proceeding contribution from
Lord Northbrook
(Conservative)
in the House of Lords on Friday, 18 May 2007.
It occurred during Debate on bills on House of Lords (Amendment) Bill [HL].
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