Welfare Reform Green Paper

My Lords, a further four pathway pilots were rolled out in October 2005, which were Tees Valley, Lancashire West, Cumbria and Glasgow. I hope that that meets the point. If the noble Earl would like, I could write to him with further details about the Glasgow pilot and, if he would like to visit it, I am sure that that would be extremely welcome. He has really picked me up on the question of the devolved administrations. I should have said that, in the work done between my department and the Department of Health, we have also kept in close touch with Scotland and Wales in relation to their own health departments. In the light of his comments I will make sure that, in the work that I mentioned in relation to the noble Lord, Lord Addington, we embrace the Scottish health service—it has a key role to play—and the preventive approach. GPs in Scotland are keen to take that approach; some measures that they are taking in helping to improve the overall health of people in Scotland are very consistent with what we wish to do in relation to IB.